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I'm good. Yeah, how are you, darby? My? You know, like you like to say, life be life in so a lot of stuff, A lot of stuff going on in my neck of the woods, a lot of stuff going on. Speaking of the elections, though, I do want to send a special shout out. There's a lot of friends of mine that I knew on the ballot and a lot of them were victorious. I definitely want to send a special shout out though to Cleveland Counselman Richard Starr, who's just a good dude and a good councilman. His his ward is the area where w ov U, our flagship station is at, and man, I was just I was so happy to see uh him be victorious this past Tuesday in the face of all kinds of attacks against him and controversies and things like that. So shout out to Consent Cleveland consul and Richard Starr, congratulations on your election. And also another person who had went through a lot who got reelected as well was a Cleveland councilman, Joe Jones, So shout out to Counselman Jones as well. Both consome Star and Counselmer Jones have been on the show before, so you know, friend, friends of mine, friends of the show. So shout out to both of them. Even with all of the odds and all the stuff that you know, they had to go through because they both had, you know, pretty contentious races, they both were able to succeed. So shout out to you both. Dante, how you. Doing, sir, Doing well? Man? It was an interesting election week for sure. I a couple of people close to home actually ended up pulling it off. That kind of got a little hairy for like you said, a couple of races that were pretty contentious, but the good guys pulled it off. So that was you know, it was a good election. We got thought interesting election week around the country. It's hard, though, man, to really put a lot into off year politics nationally though, Man, for multiple reasons. But it's been it's been a solid week, I would say for myself personally. You know, just a lot of stuff going on that you know that y'all know about, that the rest of the world will know about pretty soon. But yeah, man, just maintaining day by day, yeah man. Yeah, And we're gonna talk a little bit more about an election outside of our jurisdiction in the Dante's Hot Takes segment later on in the show. But first, we have a very special interview speaking of the election with someone who made history, and you'll hear about that right now. All right, we have a very special guest on the show today. She is a good friend of mine. She just made history. She is now mayor elect of the city of University Heights, Ohio, which is a suburb of Cleveland. We'll talk about the history making part in just a second, but first, Michelle Wise, welcome to the show, and congratulations. Thank you Darvo, and I really appreciate this opportunity. Absolutely, So first talk about like what what were you thinking, Like how did you feel as you saw the as you saw the return started to come in and you saw that you were going to. Be elected as University Heights next mayor. It was a lot of emotions at once. You know, you know me, I'm kind of humble. So we didn't have a big watch party. I had kind of my team that was helping me throughout the campaign, you know, and other council members and people in the city that I'm close with. Just we went to someone's house. I bought everyone pizza and you know, snacks and stuff and we were just waiting. But it was it was thankful. It was thankfulness to the people who surrounded me, thankfulness to God, but also just I just felt that this is something so needed and I'm so happy that I'm the one that's going to be able to do this for the residents. That's fantastic. And yes, you definitely did not have a watch party because I. Was hoping you. I was hoping you would because it would have been a lot of fun and Kolsure. Wine is amazing. But it's really good. Speaking of which, you made history on election night. You became the first Orthodox Jewish woman to be mayor of what we believe, any city in the United States. Talk about what that is, like, that is like you're in the history books. Yeah, so it's again, you know, it's humbling, it's it's it's gratifying. Also, you know, we are at a really pivotal point in the country. I feel, you know, that it's really divided, and I'm blessed with with the opportunity to not have that happen in University Heights. I really, I only care about the residents. I don't care what party you're from. But in terms of you know, being an Orthodox Jewish woman, it's it's such a special time with the division to have a minority represent a community, and I just I'm very thankful for that and thankful for the people who elected me. We're talking with Michelle Wise, who is a mayor elect of University Heights, Ohio, a suburb of Cleveland. And speaking of that, you know, you had. A very interesting and diverse coalition of people supporting you. You're a Republican, but you had a lot of Democratic support. You had obviously Orthodox Jewish support, but you also had support from black folks and white folks, like the whole spectrum of people that live in that city, particularly in this time now, as you talked about, with such a division, all the divisions that are taking place right now, how were you able to build such a diverse coalition across the spectrum. So one of my strength is a relationship building. And anyone who gets to know me knows that I look at you as a person. I don't care what party you're from. I don't care what religion, I don't care what race. I don't care you know what you do behind closed doors. I care about you as a person, and most of the week I meet are really good, honest, you know, just humans. There's just the hate that's out there, are those extremes. Most people are just good people. And again, I think people realize that I really just care about them. I don't care about all the noise in the background. And you've been obviously you've been an elected official before. I think this race for you probably was one of the more contentious. How did you navigate that? How did you navigate. The negativity, people taking shots at you and all of the crap that you had to deal with as you marched on to become an elected mayor. So I knew when I started this campaign, and it was not an easy decision to make. This was not something that I aspire to to be mayor. I honestly just want to be a servant leader. I want to give back the community. That's the reason I ran for council. I thought counsel would be the end all the the issues and the I guess trouble that the current mayor has has made kind of prompted me to do that. I felt that I was the right person to be able to do it. And I again I knew when I started this campaign, I was only going to be positive. I was never going to go negative. I need to be true to myself, true to my I have very strong moral clarity. I had good people surrounding me that you know, if I needed to vent, they would let me vent and then bring me back down and you know we would we would get back on track to stay that positive, that positive road. So it was hard, especially the last I would say four to five weeks of the campaign. It was constant. I've never seen anything like this in my life in a small city. I mean, you know, we're a neighbor a bedroom community suburb in Cleveland. This should not be happening. But I, you know, I I tried to not listen to it. I tried to ignore it. Obviously, I saw a lot of people sent me things, but I really didn't react, and I think that helped me. I think people realize that I, you know, I didn't need to defend myself. Other people were defending me all over. So I just I stayed positive, and uh just I concentrated on God has a plan for me, and if it, if it, and if it's not me, or that's fine because better things are gonna are going to be you know, down the line for me. But I'm so happy that that this was the result. We're talking with Michelle Weise, who is mayor elect of the city of University Heights, a suburb of Cleveland. And as you were on a campaign trail, especially now, like you know, like what we've been talking about, as far as like the divisions and everything, what were what was the feedback you were getting from the voters from the residents, like what was their temperature, like, what what were their concerns? What were you hearing from the voters. So it was interesting. So in the city of University Heights, we are one point eight square miles. We have you know, just under fifteen thousand people. But it's it's a really compact, dense community and the way to win is you knocking every door. And that's exactly what I did. I started in July, I finished for the end of October. But I met people, that's and you know, I met new people. I've been you know, again, I've been on city council for ten years, so I know a lot of the community and have really met some wonderful people. But the number one, which is it's horrible. Is that. Please stop the bickering, Please stop the divisiveness. You know, the best news is no, there's no news right Our city has been in the news for all of the wrong reasons. That was honestly the biggest concern. Then you have what every city has. You have infrastructure, streets, sidewalks, you know, our capital assets like our parks and our pools. Everyone wants to make sure that our safety forces are you know, are intact. But it was really it was really the the the strife between city council and the mirror. Yeah, yeah, I think and that sounds like the mood of some of the electorate in general. I think people just want to turn the temperature down now. I think people it seems like people just want to get back to normal. Is that some of the things that you were hearing as well? People do, but the climate right now is so toxic. We're nonpartisans community, so there's no hour D on the ballot, and it was very apparent that people were only voting D or R, which was sad. It never used to be like that. I really believe the current mayor made it. I believe what's happening in federal government also has trickled down, unfortunately, but it doesn't have to be like that. I don't think people really understand that. Yeah, I'm a registered Republican, I'm moderate, but as you said, you know it wasn't just the Jewish community that voted for me. I mean, I had white, black, gay, straight It doesn't matter. When you know me, you know that I want to do good for you. I hope that that temperature lowers. I'm going to try my hardest to make sure, at least in my little small pocket in Ohio, that I can do that. And on that note, obviously you're you're starting to get some headlines because you're you're you've made history, so you're starting to get some national news here, which I am as a friend of yours, I am incredibly excited about. I love seeing people cover this. But because of that, what lessons do you think other folks and either party can take from what you were able to do? Because you were able to bring in a coalition of people who didn't care about your party. I saw public, prominent known Democrats openly supporting you. What lessons can other people around the country take from what you were able to do? What can they take from that. So I really feel that if you could get people to just sit around the table and respect each other, you can get things done. You have to compromise. No one is going to get everything that they want, but if you and you could respectfully disagree to but you need to sit down and talk to each other, and you need to be civil to each other. This was, you know, I've this is my fourth election. I've run three times for city council and obviously now is mayor. This was the first time ever I've gotten doors slammed in my face and that's not okay. People have to come back and remember their humanity. But I really think that it can happen, and I hope that University Heights could be that change agent. Absolutely. So in the meantime, let's talk a little bit about Since you're mayor, Alec, let's talk a little bit about your vision. What are some of the things you want to do in University Heights. So right now we have a lot of challenges. We have one of the big things and it's listen, we're a small city, but these things are important. We just received a new street assessment. There hasn't been one done in twenty or twenty five years, and our roads are much worse than we thought. We were spending about a million dollars of roads a year. We need to probably double it. So we really have to concentrate on how we can manage our resources efficiently. That means taking a really hard look at our budget and prioritizing our needs. We have facilities that are beyond aging. At this point. We have trouble recruiting policemen and fire policemployees and fire employees because there's the facilities are so inadequate. Those are That's something else that we need to get done. It's started already, but it's kind of stalled. So municipal facilities, excuse me, streets and sidewalks, and you know, we have an opportunity right now. We're a college town. We have John Carroll here and they are making some major capital investment into their into their university, and they're zoning opportunities now that we can take a look, you know, five ten years down the line, start making plans and seeing how we can reinvent Warrensville and Cedar roads for our residents to help agent place. There's there's very few one floor homes and university heights and people want to excuse me, people want to stay here but they can't. So we want to make that happen, and we need to figure out new revenue streams. I also think one other thing that I did want to mention is regionalism. Every community he has has scarce resources at this point, and there is this is an opportune time to collaborate with our neighboring cities. And one more thing that I wanted to touch on that this is a point of personal privilege for. Me because like, I have a rooting interest in this. So I want to know what your vision is. So you have a you have a development called University Square. I know about it because I'm a I'm a Macy's Guid's where I go. Get my Colonne at so. Many around anymore. Right exactly, you know, and so like I like, I'm still like I'm one of those guys. I like going in to get it because like when I when my grandmother was alive and I was a little kid, she used to love going to the mall and going to the department store. So I picked it up. So I go to Macy's and go get my cologne. So I know that the development has had some issues, kind of falling on hard times. What's your vision for University Square? Sure? So, actually, right now we have a developer, which is great. They renamed it Bell Tower for that Macy's Bell or the actually you know main company. If anyone is old enough to remember that, there's a big belt in front of the building. But they just started. They're peeling back, which means they're demolishing seventy five feet of that garage. That's happening right now. Then they should be pulling permits in twenty twenty six to start building two hundred apartment units and Urban Air is opening in January where the old tops was, if anyone is familiar with that, so slowly but surely, we really hope that, you know, it comes to fruition. But that's the developer's plan and Target and the city have invested their personal funds as well into this project, so it has a bright future. Fantastic. Now, I'm not gonna lose my Macy's. Right Listen, You're not losing Macy's. Macy's on their own building. So unless they close. They're good, okay, good, good, good, All right, let everybody know how to keep. Up with what you have going on. Is social media all of that good stuff. Yeah, thank you. So you know, obviously a lot of people are in tunes of social media, So Vice Mayor Michelle Weis City of the University Heights is my is my Facebook profile and then you know that connects to Instagram and Twitter or x as well. But you know, I everyone can also contact me personally, so you have you go on the City of University Heights web page. My emails on there, and I would love to speak to anybody. People know, I get back to them and I'm really happy to connect. Fantastic. Thank you so much for coming on the show and spend some time with us. Congratulations once again. And I'm really glad because the first time that you were on the show it was in the aftermath of about Toober seventh, so I'm glad that we were able to talk about something happy for a chain. So congratulations again. Yeah, and thank you so much for having me. W absolutely all right, stay tuned, We have more to come here on the Outlaws. Tell Alexa to play the Outlaws radio show. Here it is from my Heart Radio. Yeah, this is Chris Gotti and you listen to the number one radio show, The Outlaws. You heard me, ADVNS music supports, Chris Gotti Cook check him out, real talk, real conversations. We got the heat. Give me hell yeah. This is the Outlaws Radio Show. Welcome back, Welcome back. You listen to the Outlaws, And now's the time to show that we like to call it Tea Time with Row. Turn it up with see out the Confectation, the latest celebrity news and gossip explation. It's Tea Time with Row on the Outlaws Radio Show. All right, So first, I am going. To talk about a school that is being opened by Cardi B. So Cardi B shocks America, Okay, In a move that no one saw coming and honestly probably nobody's ever even thought to do, Cardi B has signed a historic one hundred and seventy five million dollars deal to build the nation's first ever boarding school for orphans and homeless students. It is set to open. In Chicago, and the project is called Bella Calis. If I say her name right, don't come for me all the Cardi B fans. It's called Bella Calis Academy of Hope. It will provide like the housing education mentorship for children who've lost everything. It's about giving kids love and stability that she when she was growing. Up that she never received. And I love that. I really love that. Personally, you know, Darvo, I don't know if you guys even remember me even talking about something similar, like if I, you know, the day that I, you know, become successful, that's you know, to house the homeless and do things of that sort that a lot of people don't care to do, they don't. Pay attention to. And the children is something that people they'll think about and they'll be like, oh, our children, you know, protect our children or do this, but nobody has ever thought to do something like this. So I just you know, shout out to her, you know, especially coming from where she comes from, and you know she gets she gets a lot of crap from people, you know, from her background of who she was before becoming famous and her personality. People often try to tear her down, you know, knock her down, say bad things about her. But you can't knock this, can't knock it. So congratulations to. Her, right, congratulations absolutely. I think they missed the opportunity though by not calling it O Kerr University. But no, I think that's I think that's dope. I love that. I love that idea, Like, that's that's incredible, Dante your thoughts. Yeah, I was to say I wasn't familiar with this. Who uh like, whose idea was this? Like where you said she's trying to deal with my I just wondered, like, where did this all come from? Who's like where did this start from? Who's where is Who's fund is she built? Like funding this? So I'm not really sure. I have not seen any any more of that. I just yes say, I just. Happened to run across it and I was like, oh, well that's pretty cool. So yeah, I mean I have to do a little more digging and to see who you know, who's funding it or if it's her or you know it's you. Know, to see who's it, who it belongs to. Yeah, because that's I mean, that's just a that's just a pretty cool project. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, No, that's that's dope. Love it. Next next, So. A lot of people have been complaining about this very topic, I mean especially artists. You know, First, let me say this. You know, how you guys go, how we go on social media and everything is ai everything you're like is this real? Is this video real? Is this? You know? Is it AI? Everything is AI? It is taking over everything, especially the music industry. And Jermaine dupri who happens to be in the music industry, had something to say about it. He said, so, let me get this right. Years ago, the industry found out that Milli Vanilli weren't really the voices on their Grammy winning record, and they were stripped of their Grammy. But now we're getting ready to accept people who can't even sing creating songs for a fake person. How is this any different than Milli Vanilli? And he's not wrong, He's not wrong. You know. The interesting thing is he's not wrong. I mean, if anybody who remembers or read about what happened with that, like that ruined Millie even he's life and one of the minute of the committed suicide, years literally years on the line. It's I don't like it. I don't like the the AI singer. I think it bastardizes the priv like the creative process. I'm not anti AI. I do have some concerns about what it's going to do to wreck our entire economy, and I don't think none of. Us are prepared for it, But overall, like, I'm not anti I'm not anti AI. I don't like stuff like this though, Like I don't think that this is I don't think it's good for society. I don't think it's good for the industry. I'm just I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. Donte your thoughts. Isn't it crazy how years go down the line and you could almost kind of have empathy for Millie Vanilli right that that part always just kind of baffled me. Where I'm just like, dang they went from like public enemy number one to much later. You like, dang Man, wasn't really that deep in a way. I mean it kind of was. Yeah, I sort of feel bad for them, and I you know, I don't know, Man, This AI space is interesting because we're going to see this in a lot of We're gonna see a lot of things happen with a lot of creatives, maybe cheating or I mean, you know, you can write a movie, scriple chat GPG, right, you can not, you can write songs, you can do everything pretty much. So that's where we are now, and I'm I'm of the belief that this is really just the beginning because we haven't really tapped into complete machine learning and what we would call artificial intelligence. A lot of this, man is just like you know, basic, Like a lot of what we have right now that we're calling AI is not even machine learning or artificial intelligence. A lot of it is what's the word I'm thinking about? A lot a lot of this is just tools and learning. So like, if you can write code, you can create a program that can learn a language and do X, y and z. What's gonna happen in ten years were gonna you know what I'm saying, Like, this is what we consider to be AI now is going to be way deeper and way more advance. So I have no idea how far this is. I mean, I'm kind of nervous. I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like you can think about I mean, are we going to have created movies in the next ten years or or is it possible that they potentially get better as this type of stuff? You know what I'm saying, Like what happens if music gets better? Because everything that we like as humans, a computer is programmed to tap into that and make it, you know what I'm saying, and make everything that we like even better, who knows, or maybe it's a thousand times worse, because you know, we can tell this is you know, this was made. It takes a human element away from it. And that's that. That's the thing that I'm concerned about with AI in general. Like we could we could have a whole segment about that by itself, but like we you know, I'm concerned we're gonna be living in like I robot, you know what I mean. I was gonna say as possible, But I also think that, you know, the human element can never go away because somebody has to build and program. The machine, all right. But you know, there are some spaces that believe that, you know, like we could be you know, the people that are doing that would be the only people that are left to be that are useful, you know what I'm saying. So who knows? Man, Like, you know, there are some there's some school of thought out there that believe that is just complete bubble and that it's gonna pop, you know, just like the dot com or you know, things like you know, we get one of these and once a century, twice a century. I don't necessarily buy. That, though I don't either. I don't either, because AI makes things. And again, like I'm saying, I'm not I'm not anti AI, Like I'm supportive of AI if it's done properly and done you know, to aid humans and not replace them. But AI just is too helpful to certain tasks for it to be a bubble. I just don't. I don't buy that either. I don't buy that at all. Like I think this stuff is here to stay. We have only just begun to see the beginning, like we're we're at like the top of the second inning with this stuff, you know what I mean. Like this stuff hasn't even really like to Dante's point, this stuff hasn't even really fully integrated itself into the economy yet. And I don't think anybody's really ready. To have a conversation about what that really looks like because they don't look good. Go ahead, Robin, just. Say you know what. Also, I was just thinking about it, so as many people and many of you know, you guys know, I don't know our listeners. I hope they know, but you know, I do modeling. I've done modeling, you know. And so a lot of models now are being replaced with AI, and they're talking about like they like I see like these posts, these videos and. A lot. There are some certain casting agencies that are like trying to promote it where they try to get you to sign up to have your own AI. And it's like, don't that kind of take away from the art, that take away from you know, the whole passion in it, Like why would I why would I want to do that? So it's yeah, it's in music, it is in modeling, I mean acting. I mean I'm sure like there's in everything. And you know, really take a second to think about this. When we was growing up and we did not reach the millennium year yet, and we were talking about it everybody with all the kids, everybody's talking about it flying cars and you know, once we reach the millennium, there's gonna be flying cars, there's gonna be all kinds of different things. And we were so excited about it, but not look now, we're like, okay, what's what's where's this going? Where's this going? I mean, we didn't think this like it's cool. Yeah, like yeah, let me first and foremost. Yes, I am a chat GPT girl. Okay, I am and am Like you can get some great advice. But yeah, I mean that's it's pretty scary. It's definitely pretty scary. Like if you think about it with the music, you know how some people or some songs, they if it's played a certain way, it can play in a demonic kind of way. You know, like with AI it's it's a robot. What if it plays backwards? What if it plays some demonic type of sound or you don't even realize that it is, Like it's just that's the whole time you guys are talking, this is what's going through my head. And I'm like that would be crazy, Like even though us humans are the ones that's building it, we're the ones that's creating it, but he's gonna turn on and bite. You in then yeah, it would be Yeah. No, I'm very very concerned. So we get Like I said, we could do a whole and maybe we do need to because I don't think enough people having having these conversations. Maybe on the next on another show, we need to have like a full AI conversation because I don't even think people are aware of what this is gonna do to the nature of work. But this is gonna do. It's gonna impact everybody's you know, industries and stuff like that. So but we'll get to that at a later date. But before we close this segment, Robin, I did want to add something to tea time because it was huge. It was taken over the internet. Today they released lions Gate and Universe Will released the trailer to the Michael Jackson biopic and it is. Going through the roof. Jaafar Jackson was Michael's nephew is the one playing him in the movie. And Deadline Hollywood says that the Michael teaser delivers thirty million views in the first six hours in trailer. Yeah incredible, Wow, No, it looks it looks really good. And I said today, I meant they put it out the trailer. They put the trailer out yesterday and within the first six hours, thirty million views. You know, I was like three of those thirty six Yeah, man, I. Did not see it. I did see it. Oh man, I watched that thing like five times. I did see, you know comments. I forgot that I've seen this earlier, so on like a post on social media earlier. I seen in the comments and literally everybody all the way down in the comments and they were talking about quote unquote Michael Jackson's nose, but not you know, his nephew who's playing. How they created it with the makeup. Yeah, yeah, like a prosthetic. Yeah. And they were like, no, why would you do that to Michael? Why would you make his nose look like that? I will say this. I saw this tweet and I shared it because it's absolutely true. It said, let me give the credit. It's from big Hollywood. At Chef Waite's w A I t e s. He said, if they thought Black People was doing too much at the Black Panther premiere, wait till that Mike jack movie. Man doing the. Move walk and all man. Listen, that movie is gonna Somebody said that movie is gonna make a billion dollars. I'm excited to take my kids. I mean, my daughter probably more so, but that'd be cool. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. I'm definitely going so shout out to the producers for finally getting this thing out. It drops April. Hold on, let me look at the date. April twenty fourth, twenty twenty six. That's when it comes out. So we'll be looking forward to that. We'll probably be at the theater watching it. All right, Stay tuned. We have Dante's autes coming up next here on the Outlaws. Yo, what's up? Bring the noise right here, Chuck the Republic Enemy number one. You are tuning the Outlaws Radio show. Fuck up true, sir, out pray O. Welcome back and listening to the Outlaws. Make sure that you subscribe to the show one Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you listen to this show on Apple, please make sure you leave us a five star review and a comment is very important for the algorithm and for those of you that are already done. So thank you, oh so very much. And now's the time of the show that we like to call Dante's hot takes. Telling the truth. Whether you like it or not, It's Dante's Hot Takes on the out Lawns Radio show. All right. Well, like we talked about earlier in the show, it election day is coming gone and New York City obviously took up most of the headlines with electing Zoron Mondani, and of course with it being New York and with him being a socialist and a Muslim with big ideas of wealth redistribution and you know, all the New York City talking points. It has become a major, a major story in the country, right. You know, obviously President Trump does not miss an opportunity to insert himself into national headlines, so he has of going at it with with Mundani. And it became pretty obvious the last few weeks of this race that you know, he was gonna pull away. It seemed to be pretty clear once he won the the became the nominee after beating Cuomo in the primary, that he would probably win with the skeletons in Eric Adams closet. So, I mean, you know, obviously there was outrage yesterday and celebration but or not yesterday, but you know, on Tuesday. But to me, I didn't bother engrossing myself into that race because I live in a city in Lake County, Ohio, and New York City politics is just not my thing because I don't live in New York. And I would encourage people who don't live in New York but who actively have been engrossed with that race to be as engrossed in your own local elections because New York City politics really isn't that big of a deal. Because New York City politicians usually are not national political Bellweathers So, and what I mean by that is, when is the last time a New York City mayor actually got any sort of traction outside of the city. Rudy Giuliani was apparently was supposedly America's mayor. No traction, Bloomberg, no traction nationally. It's the same thing in California. This is why I continually tell people that Newsome is not going to be the nominee in twenty twenty eight for Democrats, that it's not going to happen. You know, someone told the joke the other day to me and was like, yeah, I mean, Newsome as a California politician, what is he going to do? Run on affordability? You can't even do that in California. So, you know, I think that if New Yorkers want to nominate a Muslim socialist, go for it. It's your city, Do what you want to do. But and I understand why it's a big story. It's the most important city in the you know, or the biggest city in the most financial, I lucrative city in our union. So sure, go, I mean, get grab all the headlines. But I don't think that you know people in Ohio, or people in Iowa, or the people in Kentucky that the Attorney General had to tell that they can't vote in that election. I think they should calm down. But that's just my take. So under normal circumstances, as someone who is very against the whole New York and California are the center of the universe talk under normal circumstances, I would agree with you. I do think this is a unique situation, not because he's a Muslim, but because he's a socialist. New York City is still, for now at least the economic capital, the financial capital of the United States, and I don't think it's a good look for the financial capital of the United States to be governed learned by a socialist. I just don't. I know there's people who may listen to this and may not like what I'm saying, but hey, I'm just keep it a book. I'm a capitalist, I'm not a socialist. I don't think it's a good idea for a socialist to be in charge of the nation's the home of the nation's financial and economic power. I do agree as far as like the individual politicians, whether they translate over or not, they usually don't because in California and New York they're so blue that you're never really challenged, so that makes it harder to translate on a national level. So I do agree with you there, but I do think that it's a problem in terms of having the nation's financial capital ran by socialists. I do also think that I know, I know Democrats are concerned about this. We'll see how successful it is in twenty twenty six, because Republicans have their own problems. But I do know that Democrats are concerned with Mamdani being the mayor elect of New York because they know that Republicans are going to use that in attack ads against every Democrat in the country. Like you know, there's gonna be some Democrat running for office in Des Moines, Iowa, and it's going to have to address something that zoraon mam Donnie has done or said in New York, you know what I mean. So I do know that Democrats are concerned about that. Like I said, how effective that line of attack is because Republicans are definitely going to do that, But how effective the line of attack is I don't know, because, like I said, Republicans got their own issues. And if they don't, if they don't fix this economy by the time people are voting next year, they're going to get wiped out no matter what. So because I think ultimately the most important thing is the economy and affordability. People still feel like things are too expensive, People still feel like they can't afford basic necessities anymore. People still are concerned about the price of food, the price of gas, the price to close, the price of insurance, the price of all sorts of things. So I think in twenty twenty six, if the Republicans don't fix that before people start voting, you know, Democrats are going to win in a route anyway, no matter what. But regardless, you know, I do know that they're concerned about it. You know, Republicans making Mom Donnie the poster child for the Democratic Party nationwide, and you know they're going to do that. So we'll see if that's successful or not. But ultimately, I do think it is concerning that the financial capital of the country is controlled by a socialists. That's where that's where I come down on it, sir. In a way, yes, but also let's just be this, he's not He's He'll find out really quickly how the game goes when it comes to you know, Wall Street private equity. You can have big ideas, but you know you're gonna have to play ball man otherwise this isn't you know, this just isn't gonna go well. Right as a lateral powers you know that, you know, I just don't put it to you this way. Markets that big do not get brought down by a bad captain over a four year stretch. Right. It just the machine is just too big, And while he may be a very important cog in it, it's not, Uh, he's not. He won't if you think he's gonna do damage, he won't be able to do enough. And for the people who believe that he will do great things, the chances of all of the ideas that you love about him being implemented it also probably not likely. What I think actually happens is I think Democrats learned to tolerate him, And we know that they were, you know, HAKEM. Jeffers didn't endorse him for a long time until, like I said, it became just blatantly obvious that okay, we're stuck with this guy. He's actually gonna you know, you know, they they finally got on board because they knew this is inevitable. But so obviously they're not as big as fans or supporters. But you know, these movements for and by the people, when the machine is this big, it just doesn't It doesn't matter. So you saying that the system, you believe this to itself, is going to be a check on him. Correct? Correct, I would be stunned if it wasn't. I'm stunned if it wasn't. Well, it's something interesting to see. We're gonna find out. It's gonna be fantastic theater. Especially again because like I said, I live in the city in Lake County, Ohio, So I mean, good good luck, my dog. I mean, I hope you make the lives of New York people in New York City and and and the boroughs better for them, because I still do have family in the city. So you know, I hope you make I hope you make life life the the thriving metropolis. You all you. Promise, Yeah, we'll see about that. Let him know how to follow you. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at take bra b r y E. Miss o'mall. You can follow me on Instagram at real Robin O'Malley and Facebook at Robin O'Malley and. You can follow me at DDA King Pen Area where that's d t h E K I n G p I M. One more time, shout out to Mayor Elect Michelle Wiss for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. We are out of here. We'll see next week. This was produced by f CV
