This is the FCB Podcast Network break this when they drunk jump boot Change said, don dun. We don't listen to y'all. We don't listen to y'all. This the holt make them scream out now like a sound dun because. The rook is in the crown. Tune in the charge for the outdo tune in the charge for the out dunk. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Dorthy Verkingvin Tomorrow alongside Robin O'Malley, Dante Braas not in today. Don't forget to like us on Facebook at facebook dot com, slash the Outlaws Radio, follow us on x and Instagram at the Outlaws or Radio. We have an interview that we're gonna get to in just a little bit, and we have quite a few things to talk about today. But first we need a drum roll. I need the next time I'm going to invest in a drum roll so we can play a drum roll right here, because apparently we have royalty in the building. Now we have Cleveland's Queen of celebrity news, Robin O'Malley. We're gonna talk a little bit about what happened this week that gave her the new title, But miss O'Malley, how are you? Thank you? Thank you? I am great. Takes a bow, I am, I am phenomenal, DARBYO. It has been a very interesting week for me. Definitely has been. Yes, yes, you've had a couple, You've had a couple of those since you've been on this show, but this week really really took the cake. So we're gonna talk a little bit about it later on in the show. But we cover Cavs media day and Robin asked the question. We'll get into it later. Robin asked the question Donovan Mitchell, the Cleveland Cavaliers star player, and about his h his engagement to R and B singer Coco Jones, and that got picked up and covered everywhere, and there was a lot of places where you were hearing Robin's voice asked that question. So it was it was it was really really dope, really really dope. And so we're going to get into it in a little bit here, but first we have an interview that we're gonna get to right now. All right, we have a very special guest on the show today. She is running for Cleveland Municipal Court Judge Nicki McGowan. Welcome, to the show. How you doing, Oh, thank you so much for thanks, thank you for having me. I'm doing well, awesome, I'm excited for this experience. Yeah, thank you, thank you for joining us. I really appreciate it. So talk a little bit before we get into the race and everything. Talk a little bit about your your background leading up to this, your work experience, what you what you've been doing leading up to this point. Sure, thank you. While I've been a public defender my whole legal career, I've actually been with the office in twenty fourteen as a law clerk and then I loved it so much working with the people. And the work that I, you know, decided to stay on. They hired me. Fortunately enough. I started in the juvenile division, where I represented parents against children family services and then also children that were charged with delinquency crimes. And then I transferred to the missile division, and I've been there a majority of my career, and I've practiced in every courtroom, including miscible court. I've handled about four thousand cases while i've been here, and it's just been a great experience every day, especially my work with the treatment dockets has been really fulfilling professionally, and personally too. So what made you decide to run for judge? What made you want to do that? So it's just not about being a judge for me, you know, because I've gotten that question, Oh, you just want to be a judge. I ran specifically for this seat because I'm in this courthouse every day. I know the needs of the people, and I know how the court can help people if they're linked with the right services. And I think that Clevelan Missipal Court is the first place that someone can get the assistance or resources that they need so they don't have for further involvement with the system. So you know, I've heard comments like, oh, you'll be a judge someday somewhere, but I think that's losing sight of why I decided to do this and run. It was because it was to run for Cleveland Municipal Court, a place where i'm every day and a place where I enjoy working. Talking with Nick McGowan, was running for cleveand Municipal Court judge. And if and when you're elected, what what do you think you would bring to the bitch. What are some of the some of the skills that you have, some of the approaches that you have. What what do you want to bring to the bench. I think experience and the right experience. I think it's truly unique to be able to stand, you know, next to my clients and really know, you know, what they're facing and what you know, resources that they need to assist them in their lives. And I think especially being a public defender, you know, most judges are former prosecutors. There's not many judges that are on the bench that are public defenders. And I just think that we're able to bring, you. Know, particular experience that no one else truly knows about unless you're standing there, you know, in that courtroom trying to advocate for someone every day. In addition to that, you know, I've handled every single docket in Cleveland, Missipal Court, and I don't think people realize how many dockets Cleveland particularly has. We have the treatment dockets that human trafficking, the Veterans Court, drug docket, mental Health Court docket. In addition to we also have a brandon All docket, We have an APL docket, we have a tax docket. We have a three B, three D and three C docket. So just being in all those dockets with that experience being in front of every jurist. I just truly think that that brings unique experience that I don't think anybody else has in this race. So let's talk about you, your experience as a public defender. Why do you think that's important for people who may not know or may not be able to connect the dots. Why do you think it's important to have someone on the bench that does have the public defender experience. So when clients are walking into or any individuals walking in the justice center, this is the worst day of their life, and they're bringing with them, you know, outside issues that they have that people don't know about or don't consider unless you're truly representing them, and you know, having conversations, and you know, people aren't coming in with the name badge saying all the issues that they've had, whether that's homelessness, or their license is suspended, or they got mental health issues or drug issues. So representing these people, it's not just cases for me. These are individual people with individual challenges. And so when you experience this every day, I think that truly brings the other perspective. If you are to be a judge sitting on the bench, maybe it's not known what that person is experiencing when they're standing there. But just because I've represented all these individuals and know all the challenges that they're facing, I just have a I feel like public defenders have a comprehensive, more comprehensive picture than you know, maybe a former prosecutor or even a defense attorney. So again, I just think that we're more it could be more thoughtful, more compassionate, just because we're seeing the other side every day and they're just not you know, a case number on a docket which just charges next to it. You know, these people are truly experiencing things. That no one knows unless you know you've represented them and you know, formed professional relationship with them. We're talking with Nick mcgallan, who's running for Cleveland Municipal Court judge. And during your time as a public defender, I know we've talked about this before offline, to talk about like one or two experiences that you had that was like a win for you, not necessarily a win in terms of like the outcome of the case, but seeing someone someone's life change, someone getting themselves together, Like talk a little bit about some of the experiences the positive experiences that you've seen during your time as a public defender. Sure, definitely, I think as a public defender, for me, it's it's you know, not about also some big jury trial win. I mean, obviously those are great for the clients and obviously you know, great professionally for myself. However, for me, it's the little things that are like truly truly wins every day, you know, whether or that's someone coming back to court with their insurance or now their license is fully reinstated, or now they were required to get you know, their dog license and their dog neutered and the insurance so now they can keep their animal it doesn't have to be forfeited to the APL Or they've you know, come in and now they're graduating from drug court or veterans court, and they're standing up there with their family and now they've got gainful employment and they're clean and their med compliant, and their families are there and they've established their relationships again. Those are just truly wins for me every day, because I truly see how that's that's more impactful for them in their daily lives than you know, some big jury trial win or something. For me, I mean, obviously we have those too, and obviously that's good for the client if they get not guilty, But for me, it's the little things or maybe they got their record expunged and now they're able to get that the job that they always wanted. So all those little. Instances just add up for me and just make have made this a rewarding career, a professional experience. So talk a little bit about what made you decide to go into this profession in the first place, When did you know that this is what you wanted to do, and just talk a little bit about your journey how you ended up at the Public Defender's office. So actually, just totally it wasn't planned. I was in my last year law school and we were required to complete an externship. And you know, my dad's been an attorney for fifty years now and he has a defensive criminal defense attorney private how so I had it to ta this externship and I couldn't work with him. So he said, oh, let me let me drive you down to the Public Defender's office. Maybe I can get you in. There, and so he did, and then I just fell in love with it. I worked with wonderful people they're out here grinding every day, representing people to the fullest and advocating for them. And it's truly a great place to work. And I just I just wouldn't have it any other way. So it was totally happenstance. But like I said, it's a great place to work. And don't colleagues and I don't get a lot of credit, but that's okay. We don't do it for that, and we just do it to advocate and represent clients and make sure that their rights aren't being violated. We're talking when Nick McGowan, who's running for Cleveland Municipal Court judge, and for people who are just getting to know you or just being introduced to you, if there's one or two things that you would want them to know about you, what are those things? I think that I just show up every day. I have the experience. I think I have the right experience. Like I said, I've handled all the different dockets in the court. In addition to that, you know we have in the neighborhood warrant recalls, we have expungement clinics, we have licensing and statement clinics, and I attend those routinely and I think those are important too. These are things that impact the individual's clements of a court the most, and I just think that it's important to have experienced judges, but also the right experience, but not only that, above and beyond that, if you were to ask anybody my reputation in the court, I think that they would say, I'm always prepared, I'm always pleasant, no matter who it is that I deal with, whether it's a guy that presses the elevator on the first floor the Justice Center, or the blue shirt bailiffs, the personal bailiffs, the judges, the journalizers, the court reporters, everybody in the court. I just always tried to to be respectful, mindful, and. I just think that that that's the most important. I think at the end of the day, if you're coming into a courtroom, like I said, it's could be the worst, the worst time for someone in their life. And so when you come into a courtroom and you have a judge that's respectful and open minded and patient and listening and have empathy, I think that's what matters the most. And I'm hoping that I would bring that to the bench. We're talking with Nick mcgallan, who's running for cleveand municipal Court judge. And as we get ready to wind down here, there is a question that I like to ask people, particularly candidates for office that come on the show, that has nothing to do with. The job that they're running, that they're seeking, but it gives a little bit of insight to who the person is, because voters want to know when they're making their decisions, they want to know who the who the person is. So I'm going to ask you this very tough and hard hitting question, Nikki. Are you ready? Oh? I'm ready? Okay, what is on your playlist? Oh? Okay? What do I mostly listen to? Yes? O my favorite band? Okay, it's Tool, And I know, I know that. I feel like. People say that Tool fans could be the most annoying fans of any genre. But yes, but I also like nineties hip hop, but I typically all genres of music. I actually was listening to Motown like last time that was, you know, a couple of days ago. But it's all over the place, but primarily it's yeah, cool, we'll mix everything. I like the question though. Yeah. So finally, as you're running through this office, your first time candidate, talk a little bit about what the experience has been like in a general in a general. Sense of running for the office, what it's been like to interact with the voters and and all that good stuff. It has been challenging but also rewarding. I would say, I'm not a politician, and I know the judges are elected. However, I just try to show up, you know, at each event and with voters, and just try to just talk about my experience and every day. And I just think that comes from my heart. So again I said, I'm not a politician. I will say this though, the amount of support that I've received, obviously from a close family and friends, but in the legal community has been probably the most rewarding and complimentary. It really keeps me going. When I hear you know how I. Think you're the most experienced, or you're really doing you know well out there. I think that really truly keeps me going. But again, this experience has been definitely eye opening, and yeah, I just I just take it day by day. And again I just want to let everyone know that I have been supportive and have expressed it to me. I truly truly appreciate it. Again, it's what keeps me going, and every text or phone call or letter or you know, donation or whatever it is, how they ever, however they may help, I truly mean it smaller, big, and again it's just what keeps me going. Let everybody know how to follow you on social media. They want to keep up with what you got going on, how to get information on your campaign and all that good stuff. Uh do you have a Facebook page? Instagram? Ni coming out in for Judge is my website? Yes? Please like, follow, share, We got yard signs. We're gonna have a lot of activities coming up in October. And again, I just want to let everyone know I am truly appreciative of the support. It almost makes me emotional thinking about it. I just don't know how I'll ever be able to like thank everybody that's helped me so far. So thank you all right, and thank you so much for coming on the show and spend some time with us. Really appreciate it. Thank you, Thank you so much for having me. Stay tuned. We have more to come here on the Outlaws. Tell Alexa to play the Outlaws radio show. Here. It is from my Heart Radio, Real Talk fel Conversations. We got the heat. Hell yeah, this is the radio show Welcome Back, Welcome Back, and listening to the Outlaws. And as I alluded to earlier, well, first of all, I want to send a special shout out to Nicki McGowin for coming on the show. Really appreciate it. So, as I mentioned earlier, Robin asked a question of CAPS Media Day to Cleveland Cavaliers all star Donovan Mitchell about his engagement to Coco Jones, And before we go any further, I'm gonna play I'm gonna play that question right now. You see what you were recently. Congratulation man, that's my dog. I love her to death. She's she's amazing, She's an amazing human being. She brings me peace. And you know, I got to spend time with her on tour with something that was very unique because you realize that she travels and works just as hard as we do on the tour bus, up late night, up late nights. She's a special human and you see it in her work. And to be able to call her my fiance my wife is a blessing. So I'm grateful. Now if you've noticed, if you notice when it played, you heard a little at the beginning, right because it was on TMZ. Her voice is on TMZ right now. So last I checked, I saw this. I saw the question and answer or some variation of at TMZ, People Essence, NBA, the Shade Room, Hollywood Unlocked, I think, and and Hoops Hype. It was that Hoops Hype and several others, several others. It was on Yahoo. I saw it on Yahoo News as well. That was crazy. That was that was crazy, Like I've never uh, We'll take that back. I have seen something like that before because we tend to do that on this show, but for it to happen so quickly, I think it was a surprise because that thing was out by the time we left the arena. People were putting it out. We're putting that clip out before we did, you know what I. Mean, Like it was before we left. Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. So so Robin talk about it, man, like, what what was your thoughts as you as everything happened? Because I knew when you asked the question, I was very excited because I was like, that's a good question. It was a great question. He gave a great answer, and I knew that nobody else in the room would have thought to ask that question. So, uh, talk talk, talk a little bit about your week man, what it's been like seeing all of that. Oh, honestly, like first it's it was just like so first I'm gonna start off with the question. So when I'm like standing there, you know, because I'll give you know what, guys. First of all, let me give Darvo part of this credit, because he's the one that told me. Darbia's the one that told me that Donovan and Coco Jones they were recently engaged. And I'm like, oh wow, like you know, I didn't realize this, so I hear I go take a quick peek while everybody else is asking their questions and I'm like, okay, well time is ticking and it's now or never. So I'm like setting here and my gears are turning and like the smoke was definitely probably coming out of my ears. But like. Immediately, like I just went to try to ask the question. And then gentleman that was taking him towarding him to do his interviews, was like going to try to like say, he was like, no more further questions, no more further questions. And first and foremost Donovan, he was like, go ahead and looked me dead in the face and told me go ahead. And like, first of all, I just want to say thank you so much for being so humble to Donovan Mitchell for allowing me that that spare time to be able to even ask him that question. And his message was absolutely beautiful. It was a chef's kiss shout out to to his to his fiance, because girl, you won, you won, like you got to a good one. And throughout the week or the last you know, the last few days, I think my emotion since like, first of all, I had to go to work immediately afterwards, and I was so hyper at work at like I could not keep my composure. I was telling everybody and I ended up calling my family and I was talking to them and I was like, my Mom's like tell my sister. She said, tell her what happened. And I was like, don't talk to me. I am a celebrity, do not talk to me. Like every day, like yesterday at work, you know, my boss came up to me. You know, other other workers come up to me and they're like, how does it feel? How it feel to talk to him? And I'm like, oh my god, Donovan is so humble he's chill. Honestly, all the cavaliers are pretty chill. They're all really nice, respectful. Every year that we go it's it's it's usually pretty nice, like all of them are usually pretty respectful and humble, but it is it's been a it's been like I've been on a high. I have been on a high of excitement because yes, we have interviewed the cavaliers before, but this time that that response, this was different because, like we always talk about Darby O is where we come from, and even although we have interviewed them before, it's spreading like wildfire. The way that it did. It was just like wow, I just immediately imagine the little meat, little Robin, like you know, living in you know in Cleveland, Ohio, and the freaking in the ghetto and the hood. You know, we ain't got much, you know what I mean. Like that's what I ended up picturing. And it's just like, it's crazy to be in this position that I'm in today and to even be like my voice is everywhere TMZ shade Rum everywhere. It is insane. It's insane. Yeah, yeah, no, it was nuts, man, it was nuts. That was that was pretty incredible to see that, especially like how fast, Like there were people who, like I said, they were capturing it and posting it before we did. And I mean to see that that was That was dope, man, that was dope. Like it was. It was awesome, Like and I'm scrolling on social media now, like that's how I found out that it was out there because I had just randomly, I was sitting in the car and just checked into Twitter or x because that's what I do. And then the first thing that pops up is Robbin's voice. I'm like, whoa. I'm like, wait a minute. So then I started digging and I started seeing it all all these other places, and then I saw it at TMZ fifteen minutes after they dropped it. I'm like, yo, yes, and they enhanced my voice shout out to TMZ, Yes, yes my voice. Mad respect for that. I really appreciate that because y'all are not haters. That's not Yeah, so it was it was awesome. What did your family have to say about it? Oh my god, Like they are so excited about it, like everybody, Yeah, that's my little sister, all my siblings and my brother. He was like he showed his son and his son was like, oh my god, like be you know, It's like he was like be Donovan, b Donovan Mitchell, like that's crazy. Yeah, so they're all pretty excited for me. I love that. I do. I love that because, you know, celebrity of the family. You know. What's funny, though, Darvia, I wasn't even like I was on the fence of actually going. And I'm glad that I went. And in the same day my car was like being weird. So everything you had a rough day had a rough more name. It was a rough morning and it ended like amazing. It was a blessing after that. I didn't care what what went wrong. I didn't care after that because what don't talk to me. Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome, man, So that was that was dope. That was dope. I was really really glad to see that. That was really cool and it's just an awesome, awesome moment. And I'm glad you asked, like I said, I I don't think anybody else would have would even thought to ask that question. Like when I told you, we were just talking, you know what I mean, we were just talking about what was going on, and I don't think anybody else would have thought to ask that question, you know what I mean. So, yeah, and you weren't even ready. You were like, I didn't even know you were going to ask the question. You're like, I didn't even know, Like, yeah, neither did I. I didn't so man, Like that was that was crazy? Man? So it was. It was dope. It was dope. And I'm really glad to see the reaction and everything. And also like for me personally, being at media Day in general is something I always appreciate because I think back to maybe about seven years ago, eight years ago something like that. I was working with a station that shall remain nameless, and part of when we first was, you know, going over my deal and everything. One of the things I asked them for was help on getting to Cavs Media Day, and they agreed to do it. And in between which this has happened to me more than once at Corporate Radio the times that I've worked worked with Corporate Radio. Worked at Corporate Radio. Between that time between the time of the sit down and the time of the launch, the person who I was originally talking to was no longer there, and the guy who took this person's role wasn't didn't necessarily take their place because they was already there. But to this person's role, even though they were sitting in the room when we originally had the conversation, had no interest in living up to their end of the deal. And I remember myself and the host of the sports show that I was producing at the time, we went to Cavs Media Day thinking that this guy had looked out and to make sure that we got in like he said, like everybody in the room said they would. At that time, that guy we got stopped at the door. I'm waiting for the guy calling a guy calling a guy calling a guy. He's not answering the phone. I see the guy. He totally dismisses me, acts like he doesn't know what I'm talking about, and then just blows me off with and I can't help you. So me and the host of that show had to turn around and do the walk of shame to the car while we just got treated like chumps in front of people. In front of my peers, several people media people that I know personally were in the room at that time. This was during the Lebron era, so there was even more media than there was than there is now. Even though there's always a lot of media caves media day, but there was even more then because this was during the Lebron era. And I've never felt so dismissed and disrespected by someone who was supposed to be a partner before. And so now you fast forward a few years later, I get in KAVS Media Day on my own accord. I don't need nobody to help me get in. It's my company name on our badges. So I'm already appreciative of being in the room in the first place, because I I know, like you and I was talking offline last night, I know how hard it was to get in that room. I know what it felt like to be standing right there and watch someone who had access, who was supposed to be a partner with you, earn his back and act like you were insignificant. So just to be able to be in the room is something that no one should ever take for granted, and a lot of people do take it for granted because a lot of people don't have that experience that I have, a lot of people don't have that feeling of I tried to get in here and I was turned away, and not only turned away, made to feel like I didn't matter. So you have that experience, you get dismissed, you fight to get in the room. Now you're in the room. Now you're talking to these This is the two, three, four, This is the third or fourth year. I believe it's the fourth year that we've been doing this, the third or fourth year in a row that we have been at CAVS Media Day. Right, that alone is extremely significant to me. And I don't think anybody who gets in that room who didn't have to go through the humiliation that I did should always appreciate and be grateful for being in that room. So we're in the I fought to get in the room. We've made it there, We've had conversations, we've interviewed. Before they went to the new format, which is basically like almost like round robin style, like where everybody everybody is like press like press briefing style where the player stays there and then everybody else asks questions. But before that, we were having one on one time with him, and the first time we interviewed Donovan, that same CALVS handler that you mentioned before earlier tried to dismiss us, and Donovan was like, no, I'm coming to talk to them, and Donovan been a real one since he'd been here, so we've been able to interview these guys, we've been able to have them on our show, and now even with the change in format, Robin asked the question the one of not the only, but one of the only questions that people are talking about outside of sports media. Actually, to be honest, now that I think about it, the only question that people outside of sports media are talking about is the one that my co host asked. Don't get no better than that? Period, Yes, yes, yes, And you know, it's funny to me because literally none of them were talking about it, nobody, nothing up until I said that question, Up until I asked that question, Like it was all about, like you know what, everybody was there for basketball, and you can see you can see how he was like, oh, you know, same, all, same, all. He was like ready to get it over with. But as soon as I asked him that question, that man melted like a stick of butter when you brought up his woman. Okay, he was happy as ever. And that that is that actually is great looking back at the video, that's great. That way it changed his energy, I'm sure for the remainder of his time. He was then happy because it was different. Absolutely absolutely. So in the meantime, what we're gonna do, We're gonna go to break and we're gonna turn it over to the Queen, Cleveland's Queen of Celebrity News as she gets ready to take us to the world of celebrity news with Tea Time with Roe. Stay tuned. You're listening to the Outlaws, true sir, out put welcome back, come back here listening to the Outlaws. And that was the time of the show that we like to call it Tea Time with Row. Turn it upation the latest celebrity news and gossip explation. It's Tea Time with Row on the Outlaws radio show. Oh y'all, the tea is hot. It is hot, It is sizzling. So in case y'all did not know what is going on, So if you don't know, you about to find out. Nicki Minaj and Cardi B that's two of the female rappers. They are at it again. They have been going at it since like twenty and eighteen, so it's like an off and on kind of battle kind of thing. Well, back then, it was like a little you know, little hits there, here, and there. So this started originally. Give y'all a brief history. It started originally back in around twenty eighteen when Cardi B's Bodak Yellow first originally came out. That's when Cardi B made her grand entrance. So Nicki Minar they didn't even speak yet, so then all the fans started comparing the two. So then next thing you know, these two started working together. They were gonna do motorsport together, or did do motorsport together? I should say, Well, Nicki Minaj, she made her own line to motorsport and it seemed like it was a dig at Cardi B in her own song, so she was told to change her lines and she didn't like that very much. So now these two started beefing. So skip forward and they were they were doing over the years. Over the course of the years, they were throwing jabs at each other, a little hair and there, nothing you know too much. But now here in twenty twenty five, they're hitting below the belt. It has gone entirely too far. So Cardi B dropped her album just recently called am I the Drama. So right after she drops her album, Nicki Minaj comes out the woodwork, and this girl starts tweeting tweet and tweet and sweet and sweet, and she is just saying all kinds of things about Cardi B. Like she is talking about, you know, kicking Cardi B's daughter culture, Like she said, I'm gonna kick her gums back and call on culture ugly and just making all these remarks about children, about Cardi B's children. So then Cardi B gets the same, like, girl, why are you coming for me all because I I just dropped my album. You're jealous, That's all it is. You're jealous. So then you know, when Nicki Minaj started making more remarks about her child, then Cardi B starts throwing jabs back at Nicki Minaj's son, Papa Bear. So, Papa Bear is nonverbal. I don't know for sure, but he I'm gonna guess that he is potentially autistic. And so she started throwing jabs at her, saying, well, if you weren't doing you know, coke and this, and that he wouldn't be fed up. And it's just your fault that your son's favorite color and you know, his favorite color is five, and like they're just throwing jabs at each other. Then it switches over to Nicki Minaj starts going after rock Nation, then she starts going after the guys on TMZ, she starts going after jay Z and all this girl is tripping. She is tripping. Both of them hit below the belt. They both wrong for going after the kids first and foremost. But Nicki Minaj, I don't know what's going on with this, but something something right. So the I don't even take no joy in none of this, you know what I mean, Like, it's not fun. It's just not I don't know what in the world, Like why why did it have to go there? Why did they have to involve the kids? Like why why even take it there? You know what I mean? Like, I just I don't understand it. I don't understand it. It gets to a point where it's like why is this necessary? Why is it necessary? Why does it have to why does it have to go to that? Like don't talk about each other kids, man, don't don't talk about each other kids. Yeah, it shouldn't go it should not go to that extreme. It really shouldn't. Like I don't understand why she like, I don't know. I don't know, Like, don't come for my kid because. Not because. I'm gonna have to see you outside. Well, And that's exactly I was about to say. When you do that, it goes to that like where else do you go from there? Right? And that was one of the things CARTI was saying, Well, like you talked about my kids, so you got to see me outside like there is like you talk about somebody kids, especially in such a public form like that, it's gonna be a problem. Ooh. And then she say she say, Quavo, was it worth it? Dummy? No career take off's gone. Remember you told me you were the Beyonce of the group. I laughed so hard inside. Anyway, pay offset his alimony, Barney B. She calls her Barney Barney B. Yeah, like she's. Going after offset Quevo, jay Z, Gail King like Beyonce, Mona Scott like she going. And we're not even gonna get and we're not even gonna get no good music out of this because like they're not even making songs. They just talking trash on X you know what I mean. Yeah, So I'm like, ah, man, it just it's just I don't understand it. I don't understand it. It just it drives me nuts. To see this, especially to see how it escalated, you know what I mean, before, like you might be able to look at it as entertainment, before it got so serious. But when they started, when they because they both did it, when they started throwing insults at each other's kids and all that, it's just too much. It's just too much, man. And I just the toxicity. I just don't understand. I don't know, man, I just don't understand the point. I don't understand what this does, what this proves. How Like, I just I don't know. I don't get it. Because it is not about proving anything. Some people, what do they say, Misery loves company And honestly, I like Nicki Minaj's music. I like Cardi B's music. I mean, both of them are very talented, very talented individuals. Had they would have been able to work together, they would have been unstoppable. But you know, you know what, sometimes one person or another they can't see somebody else in the spotlight, and so they will they will try to tear your name down. They will try to come after you or take you out of the spotlight. Hence, Cardi B's album just dropped and she was in the Spotlight. She was doing phenomenal numbers were going up and then here comes Nicki Minaj. Now, guess who is in the talk. Guess who who's being talked about more Nicki Minaj. So she she succeeded at what she you know, her goal was. And so now it's just like it's just petty. It's real petty and women, like we'll use a prime example, like it was it Kendrick Lamar and what what Drake? You know, when they were going at it, you know, it was all music, you know what I mean, Like they was doing music and they was back and forth, back and forth, but theirs was different, you know what I mean? Yea, they went too far too but at least it was music. Right, They did go pretty far. It was pretty deep, but there's was music and at least we have some good songs out of it. You know. With this, it's just like women are like cats. They are they're not They're unpredictable and they are feisty and they will they are. Why do you think they call it cat fight? Yeah? Yeah, I just I don't know where you go from here, now, you know what I mean, Like I don't know, I don't know if you can ever come back from that at this point, but which is unfortunate. There's been comments made where, you know, allegedly, I can't say whether or not, you know, allegedly, you know, Cardi B was saying, you know, things about about black women and you know, things that was not very nice at all to say. But you know, so that's what Nicki Minaj has been carrying, you know, carrying on about and saying like, oh that she was calling black women roaches and monkeys, and she's like, oh, you know, you're crazy, et cetera, et cetera. You know, and they're just going back and forth and then I don't I don't really know, but I just think I think that people need to learn their place. And you know, like you know that there is a limit. There is a line that you do not cross. There's a line you do not cross. And you are here, and you are here for one thing. You are here to make music. You are here to you are achieving your goals that you once set out to do. Like you know what I mean. Like they both they both started from nothing and they came up and they are now successful. But instead of living their best lives, they are at each other's next and throwing jabs at each other's children and other individuals, family members, talking about daddy's and everything else, like ain't no way, ain't no way. Well, who said it? Was it? Cardi bing one of her songs talking about B words be pressed, like I can't say it online, you know, I can't say it on the radio. But she say that. She said, yeah, you know, Like, so don't. Don't come for us, don't come for us. We not, No, I'm just quoting a song, all. Right, don't come for us too. I love both of them, so yeah, they just I just I hope that they can find a middle ground, the silver lining, if you may. Yeah, because this is this is out of hand. There's way worse things going on in the world, and y'all two fighting with each other and coming at each other's children. We got bigger things that we need to worry about. And give us some good music. We need that, okay, the good music. Right now? The world is falling apart, okay, like the government is shut down and we're at war in different areas and it's just a mess. We need good music, all right. We're about to run out of time here. We got time for one more, all. Right, So the other one is just a quick overview. I'm not going to touch up on it real quick, you know too much. So as we know, it's been a talk for a good while of P Diddy, you know, he have the allegations and such that we have spoken before. But you know, Cassie did write a letter you know, as the coming of when the trial does happen. So she wrote a letter like begging the judge, you know, not to let him out, and you know, giving her reasons, saying she's had she's having nightmares, you know, and she's scared for her life, et cetera, et cetera. I can't really go over the whole thing because you know, we're limited. But Jane or whoever her name is, like, she's I don't know her name. She was supposed to testify against him as well, but she wrote a letter to the judge stating that she actually does not want to testify against him. She is writing on his behalf rather than against him. She did, and the beginning of all of this state that she, you know, she said she was forced and she was coerced to say that he did this and he did that, and she said, he did not force me to do this. It was not forced. And so now she's writing a letter saying that. He also wrote a letter to the judge stating that he has changed, he's learned his lesson. He's he's a better man, and he does regret his decisions that he has done in the past against Cassie and other But yeah, so that is a little touch up on what is going on with that. Right now we are waiting to see wherever this goes next. Yeah, I hope he did learn learn something from this. You know, a lot of times, man, you know, God is so gracious. He gives you chance after chance after chance after chance after chance to get it right. And sometimes when you continue to do wrong, you know, eventually you get caught up in that. And regardless of whatever happens to Diddy's career moving forward from this, like, it'll never be the same. He'll never be the same, He'll never be viewed the same. You know, he's done permanent damage to the image that he has spent you know, thirty years building, to the career that he spent thirty years building. There's been multiple times where you can tell that there were things that happened in his life that were warning signs for him to get himself together, and he wasn't. He wasn't listening to the signs, and so eventually you get caught up. So I hope he learns from this. He has contributed a lot to music and to the culture and to you know, the joy that a lot of us have had from hearing his music and seeing the company that he built and everything like that and all the influence that came from that. But at the same time, you got to know, man, well, God trying to get your attention. You need to be You need to be listening. You know. Don't wait until that phone go to voicemail, God calling you. You need to pick it up because eventually your chances are gonna run out and you're gonna get caught up. So let him know how to follow you, miss Olly. You can follow me at Real Robin O'Malley on Instagram, Facebook Robin O'Malley and TikTok Real Robin O'Malley. And you can follow me at DDA Kingpinn everywhere that's d T H E K I N G p I N. One more time shout out to NICKI mcgonawa for coming on the show. We really appreciated. We are out of here. We'll see you next week. This was produced by FCV
