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[00:00:31] This is Darby O'Da King-Pinmaro alongside Robin O'Malley and Dante Bry Don't forget to like us on Facebook at facebook.com slash The Outlaws Radio Follow us on x and instagram at The Outlaws Radio We have a very special guest that we'll get to in just a little bit But first, Ms. O'Malley, how are you? I'm great Darby O' Actually, you know what? I gotta tell you guys Both my kids just finished school
[00:00:59] And now, like I swear I almost broke down like crying Cause what the heck, my daughter's going into the sixth grade And my son is going into the tenth grade Wow And that is a lot to take in That is a lot That is a lot I didn't just tell you last week that I just He was just starting to learn how to drive And I'm like, this is too much for me Like who, I've listened Who told them that they can grow up? I just don't understand This is not the contract I did not sign this And you just told us last week
[00:01:28] That he was learning to drive And you handled that very poorly Exactly Exactly Like I want you guys to grow up Because yes, please But at the same point No, absolutely not So like, it's tough It's hard out here It did not go well Donnie, how you doing, sir? I am doing pretty good Pretty good I just, you just gave us the news
[00:01:56] But yeah, so now that's a bit concerning But other than that, I mean, I'm doing pretty good It's been a good week Yes, we noticed yesterday That, well, we noticed today That yesterday There's a war breaking out in the Middle East That's always fun Here we go again And we'll see what happens from here Yeah We'll see what happens from here
[00:02:25] That's it Other than that, it's been pretty good though I can't complain So you're doing better than Robin was when her son was driving? Yeah, I don't even Man, I've never taught anyone how to drive But I hope we don't end up in a grass field Or in about to hit some type of wall like Robin and her son was But, you know, I don't know But Robin, I wish you the best of luck Cause it's not like It's not like You know what, I think it sounds like you want to teach him
[00:02:55] No, it sounds like you need help more than he do So you want to teach him You want me to teach him how to drive? I'll teach him how to drive I'll tell you this But if it was God rest her soul If it wasn't for my grandmother I would have never learned how to drive Because my mother was a horrible teacher And my father was even worse than my mother was I could have not They had the nerves, man They couldn't handle it So you'll be like
[00:03:25] Stop! Go! Slow down! Speed up! Your dad trying to teach somebody how to drive Oh my goodness Yes, God rest his soul too Oh my My father was And my grandmother was just so calm And cool And just Turn here Slow down here Put your blinker on Like my grandmother was so peaceful and calm While my parents were insane
[00:03:54] Both of them If it was not for my grandmother I would not have learned how to drive Oh, man Rather leave that baby alone Let him drive in peace No No, no, no I mean, listen Okay I grabbed the steering wheel And told him to put it in park But Like I didn't I have my mama in the car Okay He ain't about to take her before it's her time Okay Okay
[00:04:24] On that note On that note We gotta interview her We gotta get her We gonna go for the interview Right now All right We have a very special guest On the show today Longtime listeners of this show Have heard him on this show before But this is actually the first He is the first local guest on the show Since we've started airing on the radio Cleveland Council President Blaine Griffin
[00:04:53] Welcome back How you doing, sir? Hey, I'm doing great Darvio, man And congratulations, man Joining up, man With a great radio station W-O-V-U, man I appreciate it, man Thank you So, man It's been It's a lot going on There's so much to talk about A lot Since the last time we talked On the air Now we've discussed this Offline But I think this is the first time We've talked about This particular topic So I'm gonna ask you first Off the top And get it on out the way
[00:05:22] Let's talk about the Browns Okay, all right, all right You know, still in flux Still in, you know They've gotten a lot of wins I won't deny the fact That they've gotten a lot of wins In court As well as a couple of wins At the state legislature But I wanna caution everybody About what they're doing Because, you know As much as I've always Tried to keep everything cordial Because I truly believe
[00:05:51] That this business deal Is not a good business deal For them Out of respect for them But also for the region I think Mitch Snyder A developer put it best About how the population And the population dynamics Of this region Does not support Another type of venue At the size and way That they're looking at Even if we get rid of The IAC Center I know that people Are asking about that But I also, you know Think that what they're doing Is that people are starting To realize that this is gonna
[00:06:20] Truly destabilize downtown And that it's gonna take A longer time for us To reboot our central Business district Which can take years 15, 20, 30 years Which will kill the momentum That we have right now So we're still, you know We're still fighting And we're still dealing with it But I would not deny That the state gave them A couple wins And I wanna talk about The dangers of that Because if we start going Into the preemption State of governing That means that
[00:06:50] Where do we stop? Does the federal government Start to impede Upon the state government If the state government Is gonna impede Upon the county And city government? I mean, every local leader Has said that they don't Want this deal Except for little Small suburbs And even 57% Of the people In the poll Countywide And regionwide Said that they believe It should be in the Central Business District And the people in Brook Park To the tune of 60-something percent Said that they don't Want it out there So if we're gonna start
[00:07:19] Going against the wheel Of municipal And state jurisdictions We're headed down A slippery slope That gets rid of That small government That small G in government That Republicans And others Continuously talk about But are breaking the Mode in this one So This And this whole thing It feels like it's been Going on forever It's frustrating Because it's like It's hard to get At this stage
[00:07:48] It's hard to get people In the room and try to Work something out And for me I understand The need The want Rather for a dome I personally would Prefer a dome I would like it to be In the city of Cleveland Though Is there an opportunity To work something out With all the parties involved Is there still an option To try to bring Cleveland And the Browns And the county And Brook Park together
[00:08:18] To work out something Where there can be Some sort of deal Well Darfield let me say this If I was in a negotiation I would have locked us all In a room a year and a half ago And I definitely would not have Which I think is what happened With all of these parties I definitely would not have Negotiated this in public People that have more experience In corporate Public private partnerships Know that you have to be
[00:08:47] Very careful and sensitive In how you approach Public private partnerships And start negotiating in public Because it can go So many different ways That will make the conversation Be unwieldy But what I will say to you Is that You know that's one of the reasons Why I don't go overboard Because I think that Too many people have allowed Thin skinnedness To get involved in this They've allowed it To get too personal Some people
[00:09:16] Have not looked at What's best for the region But looked at What's best for themselves For their own jurisdiction And that's It's a lot of Miss signals That I think that All of us In this conversation Didn't pick up That allowed it To get to this point But unfortunately I wasn't in negotiations It would have been nice To have a role in that Because I would have Locked us all in the room And did exactly what you said Let's not leave Until we figure this out That's where
[00:09:46] That's where I come from You know let's get In an old Cigar smoke room And let's sit back And let's Not do a back room deal But let's just sit back And everybody get What's off their chest Until we come up With something That we can present To the public That we all stand Shoulder to shoulder And support it With the public And I've also I've heard Of some other Members of council You know complaining About the fact that They're not getting Information They're finding out On television
[00:10:16] And stuff like that And eventually Regardless of Whatever happens If there is a deal To be had It's gonna have to Come to council For approval Or rejection anyway So how much Are you all Being informed On the process Are you Are you Involved in the process At all Or are you Finding out Like we're Finding out Let me say this The county executive And the mayor Have both Consistently Kept me engaged Where they're at With conversations
[00:10:46] Unfortunately Once again As the legislative body I don't have The executive privilege Of negotiating The contract But I have Been updated And I'll be honest With you Up until probably About a month ago I talked regularly With the Browns And even though They were resolute About going to Brook Park I've always made Their chief operating Officer Dave Jenkins And Jimmy and Dee Themselves know that Hey We're gonna be here Ready to talk If this thing Doesn't happen At the state legislature
[00:11:15] We're gonna Be here to talk But I really Gotta pivot back To the state legislature and also Roger Goodell Here are two people Who for several years You know Pitch the fact Starting out With Roger Goodell Who was Paul Tagliabue's Right hand guy Who forced Cleveland To hurry up And build a stadium With pressure From the NFL In order to keep A Cleveland Browns Here in the city Of Cleveland How do you break
[00:11:45] That kind of partnership After 30 years I'm really disappointed In the NFL The other thing I'm disappointed in Is that With a little bit Of money You can go down To the state legislature And you can pass Out checks To everybody And they will Pass $600 million For you to Get your stadium Renovated But then they'll Cut food banks Libraries And education And early child care There's something Sinister wrong with that I don't care If you're public Republican or
[00:12:14] Democrat or Independent That's something Sinister about that And as you said The handful of Polling data That we do have Suggests that this Actually isn't A popular move Either To build this New stadium Look up Look up the Channel 19 poll It'll show you It'll show you Clearly Even my colleagues Chris Harsh And Danny Kelly Just did a raw Poll asking people That visited the stadium People want to come To Cleveland
[00:12:44] And get a Cleveland Experience They didn't come here To stay on the island Out in Brook Park They didn't come to see The Brook Park Browns They came to see The Cleveland Browns They came to feel The wind off the lake They came to feel The disappointment Of past seasons And the experience Of the comeback city They didn't come To just go to some Plush island Way out in the suburbs That's the reason why The Cavs Moved from Richfield Coliseum Out in the cornfields Back down to the city I mean
[00:13:13] There's a precedence That is being broken here That focused on Urban density And started moving Away from Urban sprawl And also moving Away from Poaching With cities Poaching against each other Which is why Columbus is Cleaning our clock Because they're One city One community While we have These 57 municipalities And there's one Little municipality That wants to eat Too much of their Proportion at the table Wants to take away From the big brother
[00:13:43] And it's going to be A disaster for everybody It's really unfortunate And I think in the Annals of public Administration Public private Partnerships This is going to go down To be one of the Biggest disasters That anybody's ever seen We're talking with Cleveland Council President Blaine Griffin I've got a couple more Questions on this And then we'll move On to other topics If there Is there a way To To get a new stadium In the city of Cleveland I've always argued That if they're determined
[00:14:12] To build the dome The Brook Park site Is However many feet away From the city of Cleveland Let's work out a deal Where we annex that land And that becomes Part of the city of Cleveland But it Either that Or is there Is there somewhere Is there a way to do it Downtown Closing Burke is going to Take 10 years And you're probably Going to have to get An act of congress And good luck with that Is there a way To To get a new stadium A dome stadium In the city of Cleveland You know I have to answer that
[00:14:41] Several different ways And I know that We're on a radio show And I need to be brief In my comments But let me say this First of all The rendering That finally got released That showed the Ergonomic Structure of their stadium Downtown Was actually A very good Structure Is similar to What the Cavs Have done And what the Guardians have done Is renovate And put a skin Over a present Stadium where they Can have more events And more things In the central Business district That would work It's less expensive
[00:15:11] It will extend The lifetime Of the current Stadium And everything else Number two Originally We made a huge Mistake And I say we Public officials Or whoever else And I don't want To say we Because I wasn't here I was not even A public official Then But when we Made the decision To build Gateway Made a huge mistake Not to cluster build Right there in that area I actually learned That from Dan Gilbert And having a conversation With him one day To talk about How everything Should have been Built in one area In order to
[00:15:39] Emanate the energy That needed to be You know Consolidated downtown So it never should have Been built there In the first place Last but not least There are places In the city of Cleveland I pitched Wolstein Center Which we know Is woefully Underutilized The post office I think They said it Couldn't work But I think That there was Potential there Burke was one Of the other Things that was Pitched And then I would Tell you that There's other Pieces of land That they were Going to build A county jail
[00:16:09] Down there Where those Railroads are at And they could Damn sure Have hosted Eight games Or twelve Events a season Right there By transportation Boulevard Or right down There behind The post office Down that hill Where all those Tractors are So I think That we didn't Get together And the parties Did not consolidate Ideas early I think people Started going Down one direction And when that Street closed Then everything Started going haywire And everybody Went their own way
[00:16:39] Which is unfortunate But I will tell you That that is a Problem And that's one Of the reasons Why council passed Fifty million dollars For a sites fund Because if we Don't start Consolidating Large parcels Of property We're going to Continue to lose Out on some Of these big Not just Sports teams But companies And factories That need a Tremendous amount Of acreage of land To like up to Thirty to fifty Acres in order To run their Companies and Their organizations So where do you
[00:17:09] Think we go From here I mean they They got It looks like They're going to Get the money From the state There's still Going to be A gap So I guess There's still A room for Negotiation So where Do you think We go from Here Well I'm Still hoping That the state Is going to Come to its Census Because it Seems like The governor The senate And the state Legislature Still are not Aligned At how they Believe it Should be Funded I believe It's going To be Put out
[00:17:38] There in Conference Committee Because the Way that it Goes Is the State Legislature Was just Going to Flat out Give them 600 million Out of The general Fund Which was Asinine Then the State Then the Governor Came up With you Know let's Tax the Sports betting For you Know 40 to 50 percent Or something Like that That he Believes Would have Covered All stadium Repairs Which quite Frankly Would help Us in Perpetuity Because we Are still On the Hook as Government Entities That own Stadiums That we Have to Fix them And if we
[00:18:08] Don't get That kind Of money Then we Could actually Lose You know The bonding We lose Money in Our general Fund that Has to Put it Into that And then The State Senate Came up With using Some of The unclaimed Funds Which I Think that One is Ripe with Some Problems So I Think most Of this Is going To get Worked out In committee And I Think once People start Doing the Math I just Have a Hard Time Believing That They're Going to Stand Behind Their Proposals Which means
[00:18:37] That at Some point In time They're Going to Come back To the County I will Also tell You that We got Timing Factors In place Because we Got to Think about Okay let's Say if They do Go Then I'm Immediately Going to be Asking Asking The mayor To the City And as Well As the Browns Who The hell Is going To tear The stadium Down And what Kind of Investment Are we Going to Have for The lake Front I think Scott Skinner's Article in Cleveland Cranes This week
[00:19:22] Is going to Is going to To Talk to Cleveland Council President Blaine Griffin And to Pivot a Little bit To the Lake Front One thing That you Hear a Lot In the City And in The region As well Is Skepticism About Lake Front Development Because there's Been so Many plans And so Many Ideas That never Come to fruition Can you Educate The folks
[00:19:52] Who are Listening Right Now On What the Current Plans Are for The Lake Front Where It Stands And how How realistic Is it to Actually get Something done Finally On the Lakefront Well People have Been You know Ever since Cleveland was Developed And public Square was Developed And many Hopefully Mostly All your Listeners Have been A public Square There was Always Called a Burnham Plan This goes Back to The 1800s Don't Don't quote Me on 1800 and What But early 1800s And there Was always
[00:20:22] A vision To connect Cleveland To develop From north From the Lakefront All the Way to The city Now think About that Okay A lot Of times People look At Cleveland As developing From east To west But developing From the north From the lakefront Going into The city And having Access Where the Public For the First time Can have Access To property That for the Most part Had been Blocked By private
[00:20:52] Owners Okay So trying To put Some kind Of bridge In place Where we Can only Utilize Transportation Dollars And everybody Say well We secured 150 million Dollars Through the North Coast Development Corporation The North Coast Waterfront Development Corporation Which I Happened to Put in Place And I Serve on The north Coast Authority With Scott Skinner And we Have secured Not the City But we With the City's help Have secured 150 million Dollars
[00:21:22] That will Go towards 400 million As needed In order to Build that Kind of Connectivity From public Square To make sure That people Can walk All the way To the Lakefront So that The public For the First time In over 150 years Or more Can have Direct access To the Lakefront And not Just have Access by A bunch Of private Owners So these Plans Are really To try To open Up our Waterfronts Now you Can go To Tampa Florida You can Go to Philadelphia You can Go to Washington D.C. You can Go to Newark
[00:21:51] New Jersey Any city That has A vibrant Growing Active Population Has great Access to Its lakefront And waterfront And riverfront We're one Of the only Cities that Has a Balkanized Lakefront And waterfront And riverfront And that's One of the Priorities That have Been of our Forefathers Of our City Is to try To make Sure that We have Better access And not Cut it off With the Industry And rail Lines And other Things that We have In place Now so There's Momentum That has Never been There before
[00:22:22] We're talking With Cleveland Council President Blaine Griffin Also Something else That came Out recently Is as You know You have Been You were It was Speculated For Quite a Quite a bit Of time That you Would be A potential Top tier Mayoral Candidate And you Recently Decided Not to run For mayor Can you Talk a little Bit about That decision What went Into that Process Of coming To that
[00:22:52] Decision And why You decided Ultimately That it Would be Best for You to Remain As Council President Well Darth It was a Tough Decision Because a lot Of times You have High expectations Of yourself And I'm One of those Type of People that I put a Lot of Pressure on Myself To be The best And maximize My potential While I'm Here on Earth But this Job When you Are in Public service You have To ask Yourself A question Every once In a While Where can You best Serve
[00:23:21] Do you Need to Serve In the Present Position Or do You want To take A step Up And think That you Could do Something else Well after A lot of Prayer A lot Of Conversations With my Family A lot Of Conversations With the Public And a lot Of conversations Quite frankly With you know Some of my Core people It just Didn't feel Right And you Know this Is a Business Where timing Is important You know A lot Of the Polls Showed That people Felt good About the Direction
[00:23:51] That council Was going In It looked Like you Know council Would be The best Place for me To continue To serve Effectively After weighing All of the Pros and Cons And options And I Might have Been right Because I Did not Get an Opponent So that May be an Indication that I kind of Do my Job
[00:24:41] And so And what Is going To be For council When you All return What's On your Plate Moving Forward Well I Think we Have done Some tremendous Things around Housing I think we Have started Building more Diverse Housing products Across the City whether They be Market rate Or whether They be Affordable Housing I think we've Done a good Job of Really planting Seeds around Housing all Throughout the City
[00:25:11] I think that Safety also Remains a Priority making Sure that we Continue to Buff up our Safety ranks and That we get the Police department At the ranks That they really Need to be And that we Restore trust Between the Police and The community Not through Platitudes and Politics but Through real Genuine Authentic Engagement And love For our Community I think that We got to Do some Things around Infrastructure And public Service to Make sure That people Feel and
[00:25:40] Touch these Cities I told Somebody The tale of Two cities I just got Back from Atlanta Atlanta was Built for 400,000 People but Now 10 Million people Live in Atlanta and In that Region Cleveland on The other Hand was Built for About a Million people And only 372,000 People live Here and Then even If you look At the Region the Region is Not necessarily growing but Like very Incremental Steps and Growing we Got to grow
[00:26:10] Our population We got to Make Cleveland An attractive Place and In order to Do that We got to Talk about Money and I tell people All the time A lot of People don't Like to Talk about Money they Like to Talk about Charity but We have to Talk about Genuine growing The middle Class in the City of Cleveland and Trying to Make sure That people Have an Opportunity to Work in You know Jobs where They're not Just making A living Wage but A thriving Wage Jobs where They're actually Able to Buy a home And make Sure that Their children Have a good Education
[00:26:40] Jobs Jobs where They can Actually live The American Dream So it's Ambitious and I will be Honest with You and One of the Things that I would love To talk to You about One day You have to Do it in The face of Tremendous Opposition
[00:27:20] Because quite up Atlanta because that's something that I talk about all the time. I refer to the Atlanta model all the time. And they're a perfect example, too, of when you make sure everyone has a seat at the table, it benefits everyone. And to that point, what can we do as a city to make sure that everyone
[00:27:47] has a seat at the table? We still have too many areas where there's these pockets of stubborn poverty that we have to, we got to break that up. We got to make sure that the pipeline for people to rise is as strong as it can be. And particularly, we definitely have to address the East side because
[00:28:10] there's so many issues there. So how can we do that? How can we fix that and make sure that this can be a place where all of our population gets a seat at the table? Well, the first thing I think that we have to do, and this is going to sound very conservative of me, and I'll be the first to tell you I'm a moderate person. I'm not a far left person or a far right person. I'm a person that's trying to deal with what is best for our community and what I can say and speak to the best of my
[00:28:40] knowledge. And what I would tell you is the first thing that we have to do is dispel this myth that charity is what we need to achieve as opposed to opportunity. Opportunity is more important than charity. It's the old saying about give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, but teach a man how to fish and he'll eat forever. We have to basically really get back to the point of really educating
[00:29:09] people on what opportunity means and how to take advantage of those opportunities. Then once we do that, which I think that should be an educational and family type of trait that people are teaching, but unfortunately something is being missed, then we have to make the opportunities available for, you know, as government to make the opportunities available. We have a multi-billion dollar airport project that's about to take place. There's no reason that people shouldn't be able to take
[00:29:37] advantage of that opportunity. Now you're going to hear at the federal level and at the state level, well, we, you know, don't be a DEI hire. That's almost like code word for subpar hiring. No, you know, all anybody wants is an opportunity to bid on some of these projects that we put in place. And as I told one of my very good friends, you know, when I have a city that's 55% female,
[00:30:01] you know, almost 50% African American, approximately 13% Hispanic. And then we have a, you know, large, you know, reentry community and approximately 73% of single parent households. Then I'm going to make sure that the taxpayers and the people that represent that population, the city of Cleveland, get a return on their investment. That's not DEI. That's making sure that the people who actually
[00:30:27] are paying the bills actually have an opportunity to participate in the wealth that's being created in their own tax dollars. And that's what we're trying to get to. And, you know, we got to make sure that that happens. That's not charity. That is making sure that the people that are paying the bills have an opportunity to build the wealth. And then we got to do better, man, at really, really just being real with people about, you know, their, their responsibility in this. A lot of
[00:30:55] people think government is supposed to take care of everything. It doesn't work that way. Government is only one leg of the race. We can't be the whole entire race. We're talking with Cleveland Council President Blaine Griffin. And as we get ready to wind down here, there was a conversation that we were just having offline here that you brought up something that was very interesting to me about studies and our lack of participation in it and interacting with the
[00:31:24] Cleveland Clinic and stuff like that. So just kind of bring up a little bit on air what we were just talking about off there before the interview start. Well, one of the things that, you know, I've always worked with in my capacity as councilman is building a relationship in Cleveland Clinic to try to have world-class health care. And one of the things that, you know, they have at Cleveland Clinic that a lot of people are not aware of are these research studies. And right now they have a
[00:31:48] research, a brain study that anybody over 50 years old or anybody that has a relative that's under 50 that had a relative that has some kind of brain dysfunction like Alzheimer's or it's one of those kind of degenerative, you know, diseases. There's opportunity to sign up at the Cleveland Clinic for tests like this. So unbeknownst to me, I signed up for one of these tests. And, you know,
[00:32:13] fortunately I go to take one and most of these tests are white males. And I get to talking with, you know, the, you know, the doctors that are doing this and they started telling me some of the statistics that almost, you know, 90% of these type of tests, whether they're for medicine or whether they're for other type of research where you actually can get top-notch, you know, kind of
[00:32:37] diagnosis for free, you know, are done on white males. But so think about that. Your medication that you take for blood pressure or diabetes has most likely not looked at your genetic makeup and your body makeup and the things, the traits that most Black people have. Like a lot of Black people have sickle cell C trait. So to look at those kind of factors and being able to determine how we could
[00:33:02] live longer is very, very important. And that's one of the things that I'm very keen on is how do we eliminate some of these health disparities? I got a very good friend named Albert Ratner, and he wrote a book with Dr. Michael Roizen called Longevity. You know, you got people starting to think about if you can just really take advantage of, you know, very good diagnostic healthcare, how healthier our community could be and how much longer we can all live. So I really want to do
[00:33:32] more to educate our community on some of the health disparities that we can close if we just try to take advantage of the proper research and get over the stigma of some of these things, because there's a lot more protections and really try to work together to see what we can do to try to eliminate some of these disparities. All right. Let everybody know how to get in contact with you, follow you on social media, keep up with what you got going on, sir.
[00:33:59] Griff at Griff for CLE six, go follow me on Instagram, or you can follow me on Facebook at Cleveland, Cleveland council president, uh, Blaine Griffin, uh, on Facebook. Uh, you can always, uh, call my office six, six, four, uh, you know, 4579. I'm always available. I try to make myself available to the public as much as possible. And Darby, I got to say this, man, you know,
[00:34:23] one of the things that I am a big fan of is, is good quality journalism. And I think that, uh, you going over to WVU with the audience and the crowd that they have, I think was a great, great opportunity for you and a great opportunity for our community. Um, I know that the prior host was a good friend of mine, but I was really happy to see, uh, you know, you step into these reins and
[00:34:48] you jump right in and, and, and, and took over. So congratulations, my friend. I appreciate it, brother. Uh, thanks man. Again for coming on the show, spending time with us, man, and always being, uh, gracious with your time, man. I appreciate it. Anytime, man. I'll talk to you in a moment. All right. Stay tuned. We have tea time with Ro coming up next here on the outlaws. Yo, what's up? Bring the noise right here. Chuck D public enemy. Number one,
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[00:36:06] radio show. All right. So this week we are actually talking about somebody that we have not even heard about in a long time. So I know that everybody, everybody, everybody, mama, grandmama. I don't care who it is. I know y'all know the song, uh, whip at the whip nae nae song. It was a dance.
[00:36:29] Watch me nae nae. Yeah. I know everybody knows it. Everybody knows it. Everybody. But so Salento, if I'm saying his name correctly, um, he is known for that song. That's his song. So he was actually just sentenced to 30 years after pleading guilty for murdering his own cousin. Now this
[00:36:50] happened, um, back in 2021. Um, I, I will read his note real quick and then we can kind of go forward with that. Um, so he said, I will continue to make music, um, after, you know, his sentencing, he said, I will continue to make music on becoming the best possible version of myself. Um, he date, he does take full responsibility for what he has done. We'll just kind of go over that real quick and
[00:37:17] just, um, say that, but he, he said he entered the industry as a teenager, often without proper guidance or direction. While that is not an excuse, it is part of my truth. I pray for growth, evolution, and the ability to find forgiveness for myself and for the entire situation. Um, they are stating, um, within these records when it happened is that he basically that he is battling severe mental health
[00:37:48] challenges. Um, we kind of spoke about this a little bit, but, um, it's really hard to say with this, as I, you know, I've said to you guys, well, to Darvion Dante is that there are a lot of people out here who do deal with mental health issues. Um, and sometimes some people just snap, uh, but
[00:38:13] at the same point, you can't, you can't just hurt people. I don't really know like what the, what would even cause you not to just take somebody's life, but take your own cousin's life. Like, I just, I don't, I don't understand how, what would even possess you to do something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Me either. And I mean, so on the one hand, obviously there's some sort of mental issue because that's not normal, but on the other hand, you know, the three of us were kind of
[00:38:42] discussing before the show started, when we were kind of going over this story, even be that as in may that there's clearly some mental health issues that still does not mean that you can't be held accountable for your actions. And sometimes like the, the mental health that you're the mental health help that you're going to get, unfortunately, sometimes has to be in a jail cell because if
[00:39:11] you do things to harm other people, regardless of what you're dealing with, you still have to be held accountable for that. Um, because there's a difference between having a mental health issue and being, and, uh, not being mentally competent, because if you were not mentally competent, that is a specific legal designation that would also put, uh, whatever repercussions you were to suffer into
[00:39:41] consideration. But that ain't the case here. He knew right from wrong. Now you can have mental health issues and still know right from wrong. And I also think too, in this, uh, environment where we rightfully, rightfully so try to be sensitive about mental health issues. I think when people use that as
[00:40:05] a excuse for folks that do violent acts, it actually is harmful for people who have mental health issues, because not every person who has mental health struggles is violent. Not every person who's dealing with mental health issues is going to kill somebody. So what I think when you make excuses, when people make excuses and use that as an excuse, it unfairly actually unfairly stereotypes
[00:40:34] people with mental health issues, because not all of them are violent. Number one. And number two, regardless, you still have to be held accountable for your actions. Dante. Yeah. Like my sympathy for a person's mental illness ends when they harm someone else. So, you know, a lot of people are dealing
[00:41:02] with things. Um, and there are varying extremes and, you know, to varying degrees of how bad or how much someone is, is going through. So we, we can sympathize. We can empathize with people going through things. I mean, we've all had days and we all go through our own struggle. Um, but again, I,
[00:41:28] my compassion for you is over once you have harmed someone else, um, especially to the point of, of killing them. Uh, I, I was wondering when I had first, Robbie, you had shared this in our group chat. I was just wondering like, what is the story here? Because this was, I mean, just, I don't like the fact that they've left this kind of vague. Just like what in the world would make you want to kill your cousin?
[00:41:54] Right. I just, I don't know. I mean, you can have it out with family for sure. I mean, I'm sure we all have at some point, but like, what did, what, what happened? What would make you do that? Was it an accident? It clearly wasn't an accident. I mean, he was charged with murder. So like, obviously nobody thought it was an accident. He pled to it. Like maybe if it was an accident, they, maybe you could have got like a manslaughter charge or, you know, negligence something. But I mean,
[00:42:23] murder is pretty self-explanatory. Like what did your cousin do or what did you think he did? You know, what, what happened? So I wish we had more information on it, but I feel bad for that family though, too, because I'm sure the family is ripped apart. Right. Right. All right. Next. Oh, well, that was going to be what I had. Um, one thing I can talk about, it's not really a tea time
[00:42:50] thing. Um, if you don't mind Darby O. Yes. Well, hold on. We'll get to that in a second. I'm glad you, uh, you brought that up. I wanted to make sure you can have another story. Cause I do have another, uh, I do have another, uh, tea time story that I wanted to bring up, uh, that I wanted to bring up. That's not as serious as what you're, that you, what you're going to talk about. So I want to do that first and then we'll, we'll close it out with what, um, with that other story. So,
[00:43:19] um, it's been a little controversy right now because, um, the BT awards happened, I think three days ago, if I'm not mistaken. And the person who won best gospel slash inspirational
[00:43:37] is glow Rilla. Yeah. Glow. So, um, she had a song called, uh, rain down on me. Um, I actually haven't heard this song. I heard the gospel song she did with Kirk Franklin. I wasn't particularly a fan of it. I don't, some people don't like the, you know, the mixing with the, I don't care about
[00:44:05] that. I just want it to be good. And the song that she did with Kirk Franklin was not good. Um, but I have not heard rain down on me. That's with, uh, Maverick city music here. She and, uh, Chandler that might be the same song Chandler Moore and Kirk Franklin. Yeah. That might be the same song. That's the same song. I was not a fan of that song. Um, so there's, there's a controversy over
[00:44:30] the fact that Glorilla was the one who, uh, who won the gospel inspirational award. Um, I'm having a, a little bit of confusion cause I'm trying to see if this is an award for the song or for the artist. Now I think you can make, you can make an argument again. I'm not a fan of the song,
[00:45:00] but you can make an argument like, Oh, best gospel slash inspirational song. That could be anybody because there are secular artists that make gospel songs all the time. But if it's, but I see some reports calling it best gospel inspirational artist. If it's best gospel slash inspirational artist and that's the award she won, that's kind of ridiculous. Dante, your thoughts? Yeah. I haven't
[00:45:29] even heard the song, so I'm, I'm not too sure what was happening, but, um, she didn't win it for, uh, let her cook, huh? I didn't win it for that one. That's the only Glorilla song I know. Unless he's saying that was gospel right there. Yeah. Yeah. You like that. The, the, yeah. Let her cook. That's the, that's the one. Oh,
[00:45:55] and then, Oh, I know the, yeah. Glow, but she was talking about drugs and dope and that one. So I don't think that was the one either. So I don't know what the song is, but I mean, it's the B2, I guess, I don't know. I, that's, that's kind of wild. I wouldn't have thought that Glow really even made it a gospel song. So he did make a gospel song. Like I said, I wasn't a fan of it, but I mean, I'm just saying that's, that's, that's good. Right. She, she made a gospel song. I would have never thought that she would make one.
[00:46:24] Yeah. I like that. She made the gospel song. And like I said, if the art, if the award was for the best song, I would disagree, but I would at least think you could make an argument. Yeah. It's the best artist. Like, come on now. Did they give it to her because they was also given Kurt Franklin an award too? I don't know, but you, cause you could have gave, you could have gave the award to him on one of his songs. Cause he got a whole new album on. Yeah.
[00:46:50] So, you know what I mean? So now Robin, um, when you think gospel music, do you think of Glow No, no, I, I, I actually have to hear this now because he has, um, no, no, she has like, she, she has a deep voice and I've never really seen, like, she's been getting more into like
[00:47:19] girly kind of things, but I've never really seen her sing. I've, I've. Oh, she didn't sing. She rapped. She rapped the gospel. Yeah, she did. She, do you have to go, do you have to go listen to it? I don't know. See, a lot of this music, a lot of the different types of music, they're changing so much like country music, gospel. I mean, all this music is changing so much. And a lot of them
[00:47:46] are collaborating from different. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it's, it's rap and gospel. Oh yeah. Well there's, I mean, there's been Christian hip hop forever. Yeah. Um, and I mean, obviously the most famous artists that people probably are familiar with is Lecrae. So there's, there's been Christian hip hop for a long time. But Glorilla? Say that again. But Glorilla? I don't see that. Yeah. Right. That's, that's, that's where I was going. I'm like, Christian hip hop,
[00:48:16] as a genre has been around for a long time, but Glorilla. I don't see it. Hey, God bless her. I like Glorilla. That's, I like Glorilla. I do like her. I like her music. I like her vibe. Like she, she seemed like a real cool person. I do like her vibe. I do like her vibe. Listen, period. But like not in gospel. All right.
[00:48:42] All right. We got like three minutes left before we got to get out of this segment. Robin, go ahead and talk about the story that you wanted to address. Okay. So real quick, I have, I have this, this girl on my page. I don't know her personally. Um, she just happens to be somebody on my, my Facebook page. Her name is Janelle.
[00:49:04] She does have a little girl. Her name is Zaina. Zaina. Um, was it, she was a 10 year, 10 year old little girl as of just, um, what? Uh, Wednesday. Um, and she, so she just turned 11 years old. Um, so Zaina, she, one day she was just playing around. So she woke up with back pain one day, um, one morning and she was more or less, she was fine.
[00:49:29] So later in the evening, her body started to give up completely to full pair paralysis. Um, they are in Houston, Texas, uh, right now at the hospital. Um, so the little girl, she cannot move her whole entire body. She cannot move. She has been on a feeding tube. She was being helped with breathing.
[00:49:50] Um, the original diagnosis of her was, uh, a stroke in the spinal cord and they have yet to find out, um, what has caused it. But so she is still in the hospital. Um, but I did just want to bring that up and speak on that. But, and I did just want to give her a quick little shout out and tell Zaina a happy birthday.
[00:50:11] Um, reading her story earlier, seeing that she celebrated her birthday in the hospital and so many people sent her mom gifts and so many things. And it was just like, so heart touching. Um, and as a mom of a little girl, 11 year old little girl that, that really, that this story touched me because every day I'm in fear of my children's lives. And I never would think their own bodies would attack them, but I did want to wish her a happy birthday.
[00:50:40] Yeah, absolutely. Happy birthday. And, uh, for anybody who wants more information, um, about what Robin's talking about, you can go to Robin's Facebook page. Um, cause I know that she's posted about it on there as well. So, uh, y'all can check that out, but all right. In the meantime, stay tuned. We'll be right back with Dante's hot takes here on the outlaws.
[00:51:06] Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. You're listening to the outlaws. Make sure that you subscribe to the show on Apple podcast, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcast. And if you listen to the show on Apple, please make sure you leave us a five-star review and a comment. It's very important for the algorithm. And for those of you that have already done so, thank you also very much. And now's the time to show that we like to call Dante's hot takes.
[00:51:34] Telling the truth, whether you like it or not. It's Dante's hot takes on the outlaws radio show. So I'm sure at least by now, everybody's been made aware, seeing some sort of clip of what's happening in Los Angeles. Um, ICE tried to conduct a raid, uh, things went left and essentially it spilled over into a couple of days worth of protests.
[00:52:03] And, um, maybe there was some disturbance, maybe not. Um, I think things were escalated probably on both sides, but things kind of got out of hand. It seems like not to a 2020 level, but it, it, it seems like, um, there needed to be some intervention. How much you can never know because, you know, both sides are playing politics, right?
[00:52:26] So, um, the Trump administration says one thing, the state of California is saying, we don't need your help, but we, we know, you know, those sides are kind of adversarial. So maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but the point is, is there was some disturbance around immigration and protest. And that always spurs the conversation of what is the right way to protest, right? And did you do things the right way? And should you be violent or should you block traffic?
[00:52:55] Blah, blah, blah, right there, that, that conversation always comes up in light of a situation like we had there. So my topic today though, is about Florida governor, Ron DeSantis, or should I say Florida man, Ron DeSantis, who in an interview talking about what happened in California and about how the protesters were blocking traffic.
[00:53:20] DeSantis talked about how in Florida, he was proud that they passed a law that says, if you are being stopped or you feel threatened by protesters, you can just run them over. And that's what we do here in Florida.
[00:53:45] And he said it with kind of this weird smugness as if he was proud of it. And I understand if someone is, someone's life is in danger because of an angry mob, but the fact that you see a protest and the first thing you think is, let's just run them over. That's a little odd to me.
[00:54:11] And I think this is why Governor DeSantis makes an electable governor in the state of Florida and is not really viable nationwide because a lot of people in the country, whether we agree or disagree with the protesters and what they're protesting, never thought to just run them over.
[00:54:38] We had parades here over the weekend for pride. I'm sure people got caught in it. I don't think people in the Midwest just think like, oh, man, these people are pride. I'm caught in a pride parade. I'm just going to run them over. People don't think like that, at least not normal people. So I don't know. Maybe we were talking about mental illness earlier. Maybe that there's a case of that down there in Florida. I don't know. Maybe something's in the water.
[00:55:02] But that's not a normal thought, in my opinion, even if you vehemently disagree with what the protesters are going for. Yeah, that's not normal. I will say this, though. There's an asterisk. And the only time I would think about an asterisk is like the tweet that I posted a couple of days ago that went viral, by the way.
[00:55:30] It has over 123,000 views. And there was a these two white folks, these two white protesters who were being very dismissive and disrespectful and obnoxious to this black woman who was begging them. They were blocking the street and she was begging them to get out of the way so that she could go to work. And one of the protesters very mockingly said, oh, no, not work.
[00:56:01] That guy might. I'm not going to say I would have ran him over, but he might have felt the heat of my car. I don't know, Dante, that that one would have been a little difficult. So that sounds like typical white liberal nonsense to me. So we have a white liberal male. Protesting illegal immigration.
[00:56:26] And he's doing so by keeping a minority woman of color from her job. Yes. And in his mind, he's asking. That's what's so crazy. In his mind, that makes sense. I'm going to protest about poor minorities 2000 miles away while hindering a single minority. Trying to better her life two feet away.
[00:56:55] In his mind, his he probably went home and thought, wow, I really helped the cause today. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. In that case. I probably wouldn't have hit him, but he would have felt the heat of my car a little bit. He would have definitely heard the whore. He definitely would have heard the whore.
[00:57:22] Sometimes you sometimes you got to, you know, you don't have to hit him, but you got to ramp it up a little bit and make him think that you might. Right. Like how you like how we do with those ducks when they're crossing the street. Don't hit the geese. Don't do that. It's illegal, by the way. Don't do it. But if you just step on the gas just a little bit, they will start moving faster. You got to scare them out of the way a little bit. Right.
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