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So I'll I'll address that in a little bit. We also have an interview that we're gonna get to a little bit later on in the show. But before we kick everything off, let's check in with my. People, as we always do. Miss O'Malley, how are you. I'm good. I'm good, you know, just it's good. It's good. I've been on mommy mommy duty's, you know, trying to be out here, not trying to kick nobody's kids butt or nothing. I'm joking. I'm joking, but. You know, you know, I'm good. How about this? Just know this. I just want to send a message with anybody who out there, who's this man who kids make one think they want to pick on our people, They're gonna have a problem because we don't play that from around here. I better get y'all. Better make sure y'all know when y'all kids. Y'all better make sure y'all get y'all kids together, or it's gonna be some smoke in the city. As they used to. Yeah and shout out. Shout out to Darvo, shout out to Darvy O. My baby had a little bully situation going on in DARVYO. He pulled up, you know, so I appreciate that you. Already know, girl, you already know. I ain't even tell her either of y'all. I was. We were talking on the phone. I said. She was telling me the situation, and I said, what time you what time your kids get out of school? And I asked her again right like. And I didn't know if she was gonna catch on to what I was doing, but I was asking just to be sure. I said, wait, what time did you say? Okay? I said, all right, I'm gonna call you. I said, I'm gonna call you to check back again with you. What she didn't know is I was gonna call her to be like, where you are because I'm already at the corner. I was out there. I was out there before you are, Before I even got there. I was like, dang, that's crazy. Me and my mama was in the car, like what. And you know what my daughter she was. She stopped and she looked at me. She goes, she said, Mommy, I'm appreciative all of all of you guys for being there for me. I really, I really am thankful. And I was like, oh, that's what's up, man, that's what's up? You tell you tell her. I got her back, and it's a whole bunch of people that got her back. You know what I'm saying. If I had to cost some more cavalry, we're gonna come in a couple of cars beat you know. So we do what we gotta do and teach all kids to stop bullying. To stop bullying. That's right, to stop bullying, because some some of us don't play that. So you might want to kids and you don't know who did the kid is that your child is bullying. You don't know who they are. You know, you don't know any of the situations. So exactly, so you want to make sure that your kids get a nice tall glass to act right. You know what I'm saying. Don say how you doing, sir? I'm doing good. I'm I was listening to this story. I just don't. It's it's wild to me that parents. Are not active in their kids life. So they you know, they don't know that their kids out here basically being a menace. But that's terrible, you. Know, Robin telling us a backstory like these are kids that are older than her daughter, and you know why, man, like what what what is going on so bad that you feel like you need to pick on somebody that's smaller than you, that's younger than you, Like, come on, man, like we we should be past this. But again, you know, parents, parents got to be involved. Could you imagine our mother's being so disconnected from our lives when we was kids that they had no idea. What we were doing? No, And I mean, you know, kids do their dirt, but. I don't know. Man, My heart goes out to kids that get bullied for a long period of time or even just a. Short period of time, because you know, it's serious. You know, when you Robin, you know how old Robin's daughter is or you know, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth grade, right, you think the whole world revolved, your entire life revolves around you know, what. Happens at school and on the walk home. Yeah, they don't see that, like you know, this isn't this is not your whole life, right, Like they can't see but fifteen minutes in front of their face when they're fullied, they don't, you know, they don't realize like you know, this isn't, this isn't everything. They don't see that and they don't understand that. So you know, that's why you have. I mean, there have been children that have committed suicide. And I'm not saying that this could go this far right, but I mean kids have committed suicide over being bullied at that. This isn't it's not just like old fight back, although. I do believe in that. Fortunately, you know, fortunately Robin didn't have to put her hands on no kids. But no, I'm not opposed to that either, especially. Neither neither of I. Especially as we were talking about before the show. You know, some of these kids is gang banging and got off of that. So like, hey, if you if you come and you act like you bought it by it, I'm gonna believe you. I believe you because if you're over the age of eleven and you taller than five eight, oh, I believe you. I know you've got a gun. I know, like these these young boys be dressed up. Oh yeah, I believe you got you got tattoos at twelve. Oh yeah, I know you bought them. Mm hmm. So so then I'm gonna treat you accordingly. You know what I'm saying, Because I'm going home, I'm gonna mega homes. I'm gonna treat you accordingly. But it. But it is like and like you said, man like, I mean, we did our dirt, but it wasn't like our mothers were completely uninvolved, right right, Like I couldn't imagine that. Like like you were saying before the show started, kids to be outside all times of time at night and they like, were. Your mama mad? Like you outside right now? You out hanging at the corner right. When my mama would be like she would hop I woll used to have like a little huffy bike, and if I was not home at a certain time, you know, when the street lights came out, my mother would pop on my huffy bike and she would come hunt me down there and she would chase me in circles around my group of friends. Listen, and if a kid was in the school bullying one of us, my mam would walk up in the school and she stepped to the kid's faith and she would she will go off. On them, embarrassing if your mom got it, if you thought you was out late and your mom got to come find you, or you get suspended. I had one of those where I I didn't call myself, I'm not gonna come. I get suspended my mom, Like you need to come home, and I'm like, nah, I ain't gonna come home. Oh dog, that's your parents tell you to go home. Thet it go home because if she got you, oh that's embarrassing. Don't do it. Embarrassing. Like I think I still have PTSD from it. And looking back though, we really we recognized. Now that's a beautiful thing. I'm glad that my mother cared enough about me to come up to the school when I was acting a full Yes, looking back, like a lot of my friends, they ain't had their parents weren't on them. Their parents weren't on their back like that, right, and it makes a difference. I can tell you, guys, you know, Dante, exactly what you're talking about. Well, there's a there's what situations that I have dealt with, you know, back when my son was younger, were a lot of the times like principals, assistant principles teachers, and they would all tell me thank you, because I would still reprimand my son, Like if he was in the wrong, I would reprimand him. I'd come up to the school. They've talked to him on the phone or whatever the case is, Like I would always reprimand him. If he was in the wrong, and they would say thank you, because you know, that's what they're accustomed to, is a lot of parents not doing that. They would be like, oh, not mine, not mine, or what you want me to do or whatever the cases. They would not do that, yeah, because that's not good either, like you have to and and my parents was always like this, if you right, you right. If you're wrong, you wrong, Yep, you know what I'm saying. So if you was right. Anytime I'm getting to fight, right, my father would ask me two questions. Did you start it? No, I ain't started you know what I'm saying, because make sure you ain't out there bullying people. Did you start to fight? No, I didn't start it. Did you win? Yeah? I won? Okay, I'm cool. And then he kept me like that was it? That was it. The two questions my father asked me anytime I was getting to fight at school was what did you start it? Like? Was it your fault? And did you win? And that sounds a lot like what Dante was saying, doesn't it. Yes, like this this comes from a place like you should never be but you should never be a book. But you know, my mom even used to tell me, like make sure you swing first, like don't go out there and but don't let nobody get off on you like that. You don't know, don't The last thing you want, the last thing you want is for somebody to swing on you first and knock you out, and knock you out, swing first, you get off first, but you know, don't don't take a whooping, but don't. But you know when it's about to go there, right y'all here just you know, picking on people to start fights. But that's one thing that I absolutely hate. I absolutely hate a bully. Yeah, me too, Me too. In one of these days, we're gonna because all three of us have been through some stuff. Me and I died have been through quite a bit of stuff. So one of these days we gotta trade. We're gonna trade some war stories on this show. We're gonna trade some school or we're gonna be here for hours. Because we all we just see something. So we'll do that. But before we get to the interview, we're gonna. Do this segment, take a break, and then we'll have an interview with Joshua Evans from Digital c When we come back, and those guys are doing some very very important work, some very good work. So definitely want you guys to stay tuned for that. But before we do that, like I said at the top of the show, this is the first episode with all of us together since the passing of my father, and I just wanted to take a couple of minutes just to kind of talk about it. What a lot of people probably. Don't know unless you unless you know a little bit about the inner workings of the company here at FCP. My father was very involved with the company. My father was very helpful with the company. There were times, especially early on, where you know, my father literally and figuratively helped. Keep the doors open at the company. My father and I, for for people, I mean you've if you've seen in social media, you know this, But for people who haven't, like my. Father and I were very close. That was like my best friend, you know what I mean. We would go out and kick it together and hang out together, talk. On the phone with Brown's games, and cut the team out when they was messing up and all that kind of stuff. We had a very very good, strong bond. And what was interesting to me, I was telling my team a little bit of this before the show that I went out with one of my father's friends after my father passed and we had a conversation, and you know, he told me that he would have conversations with my father and would say, you know, you don't know how lucky you are to have a son. That you can go kick it with. And man, when he said I was like, wow, Like I've never really thought about it like that, because it was. Just normal for me, you know what I'm saying. And you know, of course, you know, my father and I we've had our ups and downs and stuff like it, like every parent and child has, especially father and son. The father and son dynamic. It is unique at times, but you know, for the most part, like my dad, like I said, my dad and I were very close. He was very involved. He was very proud of what we were doing here. He would tell everybody about it, like he wouldn't go anywhere without telling people about it. He would make me give him a card, even if it was like one of those times where I was just trying to chill out and not really want to be on go mode, you know what I'm saying. But he would talk about it all the time. He went with us on some of the work trips. That's when him and Robin bonded. When we made Robin drive through this through a storm and we all fell asleep in the car and it was just robbing and my father that was. Up, you know, he was He was a good dude. Man. He was a good dude. And I wanted to. Make sure that I took some time on this show, this show that, like I said, he was very proud of. To just you know, say a little words about it. Also, I want to say this as well. I want to shout out my people, my team MATH for coming through and having my back during that. Both of y'all was at the funeral, Robin came to the repass Robin and her mother. This was the first time her mother got a. Crash course in black church experience, the first time she had been in a black church. Because we had the we had the funeral at my childhood church. It was my father's childhood churches where my father was baptized, where I was baptized. It's like the family church. I don't go there anymore. I go to a different church, but that was like the that still was like the family church. So so we had the funeral there and everything like that. And I also want to send a shout out just to everybody who has sent me messages and letters and texts and and all of that for condolences. I really appreciate that this is something that you can't really prepare for. You know, Robin knows this's problem, has been through this already. It does change you, you know, once you lose a parent, and you know, it's not the easiest thing in the world obviously to deal with, especially when somebody you were close to. So I want to I haven't had an opportunity. To publicly say thank you to everybody, so I want to take the time now to say thank you to everybody who have been been supportive. And also, like I said, I want to thank my team. I want to thank y'all for backing me up on this as well. Man, I appreciate it from both of y'all. Always always your father, I'll tell you this all the time that your father reminds me, reminded me so much of my granddad. My granddad was a little bit older than him, Pops, but he reminded me so much of it. Just like funny but could give you like a gym or two if you're paying attention, and could get serious if you're paying attention. But really, the thing that really makes me most sad is like we're losing so many ogs before they work is done in my opinion, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's the thing that really bothered me the most. Where it's like, man, you know his work wasn't finished. Man, he had more lives to touch. Yeah, that's the thing that you know. It's like, yeah, man, he live a good life, but like it ain't not you. Man, you got some more life to live. You know, you got more people to more people to touch. And that's the part that uh yeah, that's. The part that sucks to me. It's like, man, the time that I did get. To spend around your dad is like, man, he just really reminded me you, oh my granddad. I could laugh about it because like, yeah he definitely had I remember, Robin may not like this, or maybe you could laugh about it now. You know what I'm about to say. When he was he was like Robbie, get some meat on your ball. He's skinny. And Robin was like you body shaming me? And Darthy was like Robin, this is an older black man from the south. He has no idea what body shame? He don't know. Oh that is exactly. Yeah, It's like he don't mean no harm by it at all, of course not. It's just stuff like that where I'm like, oh man, after. That, that is actually when me and him actually bonded. After that. Really, I'm glad it was like. Button heads because if you remember so originally I had that trip is so memorable from the beginning all the way to the very end. So how all you know, how it started is me messing on my ankle yep. And and so when we all had to drive or whatever, and I'm over here like trying to pick myself up, and he said, he said, ain't you gonna get the bags or something like that, and I was like, I can't what you know. Like, so. We wasn't really off to the best start. I mean, that wasn't the first time meeting him, but it was our first time actually being around each other for such a long period of time. And so when he had said that to me, and I had took like offense to it, and I'm like, all right, pull myself back. Next thing, you know, on the way back home, were cracking jokes and recording y'all to a seat snoring. Yeah, it was like it was funny too because like like that I say, like you said, it was the class of cultures, right, because it's like. Body shame. They don't know what the hell had. That's a new twenty fifteen and beyond type thing, right, like older. Blackben old enough because they've never heard of that before. And they. You not about to get them to change and be like, oh my bad, okay, body shait, you ain't about to that ain't happening. He was very. When he would say things. It wasn't out of being malicious, no, And I had to learn that, you know what I mean, because he was he was a very straight forward, just very honest person. And so when he would say things like you have to really know him to get it and so like, but when he would say things after getting to know him, he'd be having you cracking up because he'd be saying the wildest things. And it was just hilarious that all the time. And there's something there is something I think refreshing about that level of honesty because we don't see that that often anymore. Like, like Dante said, a lot of the ogs are leaving us now, and the world that we live in is so fake, you know what I'm saying, And so it's it's refreshing to see something real like that. There were times where he would say stuff that would make me cribs, you know what I'm saying. He was just a real He was a real dude, you know what I mean. I remember, like you said about the gyms and stuff sometimes, and but he was he would be so blunt with it. I remember I was having a tough decision that I had to make. I was at this this other media company at the time, and they weren't treating me right, and I was having a I was going back and forth about whether I was gonna leave or not. So I went over to my father's house and when me and one of my homeboys went over there, and we kicked it with him, and you know, had a couple of drinks or whatever, and I was talking to him and I asked him, I said, man, you know, this is what I'm dealing with, and I'm agonizing over this decision, right should I stay or should I go whatever? And I'm like, man, I don't really know what to do. Blah blah, blah blah. My father was like, man, after. People, I could see him. I could just actually hear him saying that when you said like, I could really hear him. Saying and so then I will be like, well, yeah, you know, because like I'm feeling like, you know, they treat me like da da da dah. And then he said again after him, and then I was still like talk again and like that, I'm like, yeah, you know. And they really treat me like blah blah blah. He told me said, I'm gonna tell you again after people. So it was like, okay, if you want to leave me after people, I was like, all right, Dad, I got it. You know what I'm saying. But he was just. He was he was real man, And I'll share this like and I'm gonna share this this publicly. You know there are times, especially like when you come from where we come from and had the experiences that all three of us in one way or another and had, you want and you know this rob me with your dad and Dante. You know that what your mom like. You want to give your your folks everything that they didn't have. You want to give them everything, you want to you want to pay them back for believing in you right right, And there were times where like I will always like because people who like really really know me know that I'm nobody's harder on me than me. You know what I'm saying. I expect a lot of myself. I expect a lot of like. The direction that I want to go and where, and what we've built and what we're continuing to build. I expect a lot out of me. And there were times where I would feel some type of way because I would feel like like I like, I haven't given you everything that I wanted to give you. You know what I'm saying, That I haven't that I didn't give you everything that I felt like you deserved. And every time I would like get in those feelings, my father would cuss me out. He would cuss me out, and he would remind me, he was like, look at what you've done, like and he talked about like the trips and stuff that we would go on and I would bring up with me. He said, I never would have went to any of them in messing places if. It wasn't for you. You know what I'm saying. Because my father was an old school you know, don say you know how like old school black man. He's like, look, I'm this is where I live, this is my city, this my Yeah, I'm cool. I got my I go to I got my people I kick it with. And that's it. Like he never really had no interest in traveling. Had he like I'm cool, this, I know my environment. I'm cool. You know what I'm saying. But as we started getting bigger and we would started, you know, going to these different trips and things like that, I would take him with me, and you know, so he could see these different things. And I remember like when we were when me you robbing, my mother, my cousin and my father. Was all sitting pool side at the window in Florida, and then Robin went over there and flirted with the pool boy to get him to keep the pool open. Long. We sat at that pool longer, though, didn't we. So we gonna all sit there and kick it and drink, and we were smoking cigars and robbing. We gave Robbing a cigar and she punked out out and a. Man, listen, if I wasn't gonna be drinking with y'all, that would have not had happened. Nasty. We gotta get her We're gonna get her a lighter cigar. We're gonna Dante. He told me the other day she's willing to try it again. So so we got we're gonna. Get her a lighter, you know, more feminine cigar the next time. Begiw we we are sitting and drinking and smoke a cigar. However, I will say, at least my first time trying a cigar. And going to Florida at that, that's true. We I got to endure that with your father getting in with you guys, So that was definitely an experience. Uh, that will forever be memorable. Yeah, that was That was a great time, man. And so you know it's I ain't gonna lie to you like it's been. And Robin you know this, and and I mean and Dante you know it too, because you lost your grandfather recently and y'all were very close. Like you know, you have your you know, you have your good days and your bad days and all of that. And I'm you know, I have my good days and my bad days. And and because you think about, like Dante said, like you feel like man, it was man, it was so much more, so many more things, I know, he wanted to do, you know what I mean, so many more things that we wanted to do together, so many more things that I wanted to give him, because, like I said, when you when you close to your people and your people believe in you, you want to give them everything. You want to give them every single thing that you saw them sacrifice for you. You want to give them every single thing. Like the I always talk about, like the schools that I went to, the Christian schools that I went to, and how it changed my life, Well that was because of my parents. My parents made the decision. And this was before like when I first started going to school and it wasn't no vouchers. And then while I was in the middle of the school, the vouchers came, but the requirement was such that, like if you made one hundred dollars over even though you were still you were still struggling, you didn't qualify for the vouch. So we my family had to pay for my school out of pocket from kindergarten all the way through the twelfth you know what I'm saying, And like that was the decision that my parents made. And I remember my mother wanted me to go to private school. In the first place. And my father at first, of course, you know him working working for the school district and stuff, the public school district. He was like, nah, you know what I'm saying. He was like, well, let me go to. Some of the top schools in the city. And so he went to the top school. And he used to tell the story all the time. He went to the top school, the best school in the city at that time, and he saw and in his words, he said, I saw this kid getting ass will and the teacher's aide was standing right next to him and not doing anything about it. And my father said, he said, I saw that, and I was like, oh, hell nah. He was like, he said, I'll f around and lose my job. So he left that school called my mother said put him in private school. And that literally, that one decision that my parents made changed my entire life. Not only just talking about the education that I got. It goes even deeper than that, because one of the things that we talk about all the time when it comes to school and school choice and why it's important is because it's not just the education, although the education is important, but also the social circle too. Later on in life, my first access to the political world. When I first started building relationships in the political world, the first door that was opened for me was from a friend of mine that I went to elementary school with. She was the one who opened the door for me, you know what I'm saying. And then I met somebody through her who opened the door for me in media. You see what I'm saying. That one decision, that one decision that my parents made together, that one decision changed my whole life, you know what I'm saying, because. That was the equalizer. I wouldn't know these people, being a poor black kid from the hood, from inner city Cleveland, if I did not go to the schools that I went to, you know what I'm saying. If my parents did not struggle to pay for that because they had to pay for it out of pocket. You know what I'm saying. So you think about stuff like that, and my father, of course he would he would brag about it after I got older, after I graduated and stuff. But when I was a kid, anytime I was messing up, the way that he would get me to act right is he would threaten to take me out like that was his that was his stick, right, He said, you keep capping up, I'm or take you out of school. And I'll send you to public school. And then by that time, I was like that, I ain't trying to go to the postchool. I'm cool right where I'm at now, you know what I'm saying. And so, but I think about that stuff, and he would talk about it later and about how. How glad he was that. They made that decision to be able to see that payoff in a direct way, Like it was literally a direct way. Because the friend who gave me, he who first gave me access to politics, was someone I never would have known had I not went to the school that they sent me to. Yep, you know what I'm saying. So he was he was very involved, like I said, with the company he built basically himself. Our studio he built, like he put the put the soundproofing on the walls, put the towel on the whole, the whole thing, you know what I'm saying. And because he was just one of them, you know how you know how older black man is. You know what I'm saying, Because I would tell. Him, I'll tell him that, and he said, man, f that. Nobody to do. You know what I'm saying like I'm gonna go and get this coffee. Good, do this myself, you know what I mean? Look, Roger right right for it. Let's go right right, And it puts more meaning into the dream. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, you know so. But like I said, man, I just wanted to take this time, especially on this show, this first time I was able to do it on the show, and I didn't want to do it until all three of. Us was back on. So I wanted to take this time to. Say a few words man, And like I said, thank everybody for all the support and everything that people have said, and all the letters and the texts and and you know, the cards and all of that. You know, I really absolutely appreciate it. And you know that means more more to mean thing you guys would ever know. So thank you to everybody who's been very supporting. During this time. All right, So when we come back, we are going to go to our interview with Joshua Ed. Stay tuned. You're listening to the Outlaws. Real talk, real conversations. We got the heat. Yeah, this is the Outlaws Radio show. Welcome back, going back. You're listening to the Outlaws, and now we have a special interview with Joshua m As, the CEO of Digital c I. Want you try to check this out. You know, they're doing a lot of very very important work. Bringing inexpensive Internet to areas of the community that need it the most. As we know, like these days, internet is no longer. A luxury, it's a necessity, you know what I mean. We definitely learned that during the pandemic. So you know, they're doing a lot of really really good work and I won't try to learn more about them, and so we're gonna go to that interview right now. All right, we have a very special guest on the show today. He's been on this show before ahead of Digital Seed. Joshua Evans. Welcome back. How you doing, sir. I'm well, I'm glad to be back. Thankful for another opportunity to share the good news about Digital CEE and what we're doing over here. Absolutely absolutely, man, you got a lot of good stuff going on. So we'll start here. Let's start with the nuts and bolts first and then we'll kind of, you know, add a little bit of the background as well. Talk a little bit about Canopy introduced at what is it? How can people sign up? All that kind of stuff. So Canopy is our Internet service provider at Digital Seed. We like to say Canopy because we got you covered and the Canopy the service for Internet's only eighteen dollars a month, and that is our price locked eighteen dollars. This isn't something that you know every six months or so, we're going to change the price. Now it's eighteen dollars for the next five years, and then after that we'll change the price only for inflation. So for the next ten years are leasing to less than twenty dollars a month for Cleveland households. Now, the reason why this is unique is the fact that typically Internet that we're rolling out, especially at eighteen dollars a month at one hundred download one hundred upload, typically companies will go to the suburbs first make their money and then attempt to invest in Cleveland. We're investing in this Cleveland first, so Cleveland residents are getting something that no one else has anywhere else in the country. This offer does not exist anywhere else. We're doing it first here in Cleveland, and then we'll expand and grow beyond Cleveland. So you know, in order to take advantage of that, you got to call it two one six seven seven seven three eight five nine. That is our number. In addition to that, our website www dot digitalc dot org. That's another way you can get signed up. You can even sign up online without even talking to us. You can sign up directly from our website, or you can call that number, or you can even come down to sixty ninth and you could at the Midtown tech Hive that's our headquarters. We'll sign you up even here, I mean, wherever you go, we're here and we're willing to sign people up because we believe in this product that much. Absolutely, And talk a little bit about the importance of the connectivity. I mean, we saw during the pandemic, you know, how the internet has went from being a luxury to a necessity. Really, talk a little. Bit about the importance of being able to have that access and have that connectivity. You know, it means the world to really everybody at this point. I mean, the Internet is the gateway to opportunity, and I think that that needs to be stated often because when people do not have the Internet, they don't have the opportunity sometimes to apply for jobs online, to do research on really on anything. I mean we use the Internet for so many different things now that without that you're essentially shut out of opportunity. And so, yes, the pandemic really co sign it. But I think that after the pandemic, in this post pandemic world, we're seeing a greater reliance on digital Through the pandemic, you weren't hearing things like generative AI and chat gpets. You weren't hearing things like that. But now all of a sudden, you're seeing this enablement. Of the future. You're hearing more things about quantum, this quantum that that the Internet is the enablement of that future. So therefore, without the Internet for residents, namely in Cleveland, but even across the country, black and brown communities, not having access to the Internet, that is the next wave of inequity that will further exacerbate some of our existing systemic inequities that we've already had to navigate. Without the Internet, we were just going to see another wave of disenfranchisement and disinvestment to the scales of which I don't even want to calculate. So it's necessary, it's absolutely needed. This cell phone is not enough. You need that home internet experience. Right, absolutely, And I really want to dig a little bit more into that as well, because I mean, I remember, you know, hearing stories of parents having to take their children to Walmarts and McDonald's parking lots using Wi Fi in order to be able to get work done. And as everything becomes, you know, more and more a digital world and going more and more in that direction. Talk a little bit about why it was important for you all to invest in Cleveland and not do like you said, a lot of the other companies do, where they go make their money in the suburbs and then maybe try to do a little bit. In the city. Why was it important for you all to be in the city first? Uh, you know, it's important for us because we are We're Cleveland. We were that with pride. I mean, over half our. Team lives in the city of Cleveland, myself included. I don't know how many other telecom CEOs live in Cleveland, but I'm a proud one and I believe that within Cleveland's DNA, it allows us to have that story. I mean, we are not the Goliath of a company. We are David trying to figure this stuff out in. A land of Goliath. And I think that Cleveland has a really great story, whether it's the being that comeback city, the city that everyone overlooked, the city that they thought that we could do this or we can do that, and yet we're still standing and thriving. And I think that being able to orient ourselves and probably proclaim that Cleveland is doing this, I think that means something that's sending a very clear message that this next generation doesn't have to grow up with the mistake on the Lake as a brand, that this is actually a land of opportunity that people do invest here. And you know, we got you know, there's some phenomenal young scholars within the school district and one, if not you know, one hundred or one thousand, I don't know how many are going to be very very successful. And I want them to see that investment in Cleveland it's greater investment so that they that way they'll do the same. So I would say that this isn't just about the Internet, This isn't just about the digital divide. This is about showing ways that a black lat telecom company can beat the odds, and that is something that is uniquely Cleveland. Absolutely absolutely, We're talking with Joshua Evans, head of Digital. C So, going back to Canopy, talk a little bit about I'm sure that you've heard you guys are already signing up people. I know that you've probably had great feedback from some of your customers. Talk a little bit about how they're lacking the product, how they enjoying the product, and especially for many of them, it may be their first time being able to access the Internet on a significant scale like that, not just as you said, not just on the phone, but actually really being able to use. Yeah, you know, I'll orient this by saying, at one point, the people who said we could not do this, they would often say that our technology could not penetrate the tree canopy. So that's why we named our product Cannon. In addition to us naming it Canopy, we were also able to when as you've been connecting people the way that they've been embracing us, engaging with us. I mean, we've done and value head of Cheaper, who's our Cheaper marketing communication, has done a great job of highlighting these narratives, the customer testimonials. I mean, you're going to see so many people from the neighborhoods where it's a point of pride, and then at one point it was, well, we're not sure if this works too man. I've told everybody there is a point of pride when we go to a certain section of Glenville or huff and we see six or seven homes on a street in a row, all having our service. And these are the people. These are early adopters. We just rolled this stuff out. It's the fact that we can send out a correspondence, a flyer, a postcard, whatever, and you have hundreds and hundreds of people joining our weightlists looking to be connected. I mean, the need is there, the support is there, the love is there. So oftentimes in Cleveland, it's so difficult to scale things here because you've got people who are focusing on all these other things. But it's the fact that people see this, they're taking advantage of it. They love it. Certain families who had very slow speeds. If you're one of those households where it doesn't matter what your internet provider tells you, and they're saying, oh, you're getting gigabit speeds and you never feel it. Yeah, that's where we come in because our product that we've been able to offer not only just the download speeds, but the upload speeds and our society we don't talk about the upload speeds. The upload speeds. Are what is needed if you are working from home, if you are streaming anything, or if you have all these different kids who want to you know, some and so is playing the game over here, this other person, the other babies on TikTok trying to upload something because. They're a creator, you need the upload speeds. We have some of the fastest upload speeds in Cleveland paired with some of the fastest download speeds at the same time. And to be able to deliver a winning product like that, I mean, we've been greeted with residents with tears. Residents have came over that. They they've even said, hey man, I saw that you put my kid in in a commercial. I really appreciate that. Thank you. So this is really a communal list. And people feel that when you operate in that energy, the way they reciprocate the love in Cleveland it's like no other place on earth. Absolutely, And as you were talking, you know, one thing that really came to my mind that I would I would love to secure you speak. On is just talk about the journey. I know that you know now this product is out in the market. But talk a little bit. About the journey to getting that product, Like, what are some of the things that you guys had to deal with had to go through in order to be able to present something like that to the community. You know, I think it's it's it's it's it's it's a point of pride, man, Like, we feel proud to be doing what we're doing. We feel proud to be able to say to the community that this isn't something that you heard me say earlier. There are no shortcuts. I mean, we've had to learn how to build this network. This isn't like. One of those cricket wireless type things where we were purposing this for one demographic. No, this is meant to be for everybody. We're not repurposing existing network. We are building this from the ground up. And while I know people don't understand the difficulty of that, all the engineering hours that go into that, and all the times we got something wrong, we're figuring that out. I mean, I think that those are the stories that again it's uniquely Cleveland where we say we got out the mud, and we did we got this out the mud. We built this thing from nothing to now being able to cover north of forty thousand households with this service and have a full city wide network by June of twenty twenty five. I mean, that's a point of pride. And again we came from no. Own network whatsoever being built to legitimately building this thing and now to see it, you know, competing within the neighborhoods where we had to earn the business of residents. That's just a completely different shift. And that came from the fact that this is an earned opportunity, you know, to I know that when Lebron was here the last time, it was like Cleveland, you know, it's a city where nothing is given and everything is earned, and that is what we feel like this opportunity is. And you know, at the same time, again we came from nothing. We've really been able to build this into something that I think is going to alter the way that not only Cleveland, not only Ohio, but the way America thinks about telecommunications. We are a disruptive company headquartered in Cleveland. Absolutely. I love that. I love that. So what is what's your what's your vision? What's the overall goal for Canopy? Where are you guys going, What's the vision. The vision in one you know, we're never going to forget this Cleveland, Cleveland, Cleveland, Cleveland. That is our baby, that is our home, that is our crown jewel. So we're gonna build out Cleveland and build out Cleveland so good that you know, we know that when you do good things, you're oftentimes rewarded. With more good things. And so with that, we do have a goal of expanding this this network and expanding this model. I believe that the digital divide is legitimately beatable. I think that this is something that if people are willing to learn from Cleveland, that the Cleveland model for digital equity would be something that is not just exported nationally. But globally. There's a global digital divide. Cleveland has some of the same digital equity challenges that you will see in Africa and other parts of the world where there are digital halves and digital have nots. We are that we are that digital equity equalizer to some extent. We're building a disruptive model that is scalable and all the lessons that we learn here are applicable everywhere, and so I do see that this is something that can grow and scale well beyond Cleveland. But to quote an old African adage, no matter how far a river runs and never forgets its source. And so no matter how much we scale this network, Cleveland is going to be the thing that we're always going pointing to. We're gonna do this with love and pride. Absolutely, absolutely, And one more time, Man, let everybody know if they want to sign up for Canopy, how they can do that, where they can go to get more information and all that good stuff. Yeah, So in order to sign up for Canopy, you can do it one of three ways. One you can call it two one six seven seven seven three eight five nine, and you can speak to representative. In addition to that, you can go to www dot digitalc dot org. There you can sign up for Canopy. You can even schedule your own installation from our our in house install team. And the last one, you can come to the Midtown Tech high that's sixty ninth in Euclid and you can sign up there. I'm here, our entire team is here. We are local, we are and we look forward to earning your business. Absolutely. Man, thanks so much much for coming back on the show and spending some time with us, Man and telling us about the good stuff that y'all working on. Man, You're doing some really good work man, and I appreciate it. No, thank you, appreciate the exposure of the visibility and the love. Stay tuning. We have Tea Time with Ro coming up next here on the Outlaws. This is the Outlaws Radio Show. Welcome back, Welcome back you listening to the Outlaws, And now was the time of the show that we like to call Tea Time with Ro. Turn it up, don't see up, confectation, the latest celebrity news and gossip. It's Tea Time with Roe on the Outlaws Radio Show. All right, jaw, welcome back to Tea Time. So here on Tie Time today. So normally I will speak on a lot of celebrity things and I will touch on a little tad bit of it, but we're gonna shift it a little bit today. So I will start off with everybody is speaking about the whole p Diddy thing Puff Daddy. However, you may know who he is. He has been in the music industry for decades, what since the early wet nineties and yeah nineties, So people may or may may or may not know. There's a lot of details going on with that story. I don't want to go into like depth with it, but he has some things going on. So but everybody keeps speaking about him and about what's going on, and that is very important. Yes, what he is, what allegedly that he has done, I can't really say for sure because there I mean, yes, there's things out there that prove things that he has done, but there needs to be more detail on that. Now. What that being said is there is also things that's not being spoken about in the media in the world, things that are just like pushed to the back burner that should have been talked about and brought to light. For prime examples, there was just an innocent man in the state of Missouri that they just executed and he was completely innocent, and nobody I literally did not see very many people other than on social media here and there that was talking about it. Like there's things like that that needs to be discussed when there was proof that he was not present during the time of the incident that he is being accused of. So there's a lot to unpack there. There's a couple of things I want to that I want to address. One on a puffy situation. I read the indictment if now, obviously, you know, people are innocent into proven guilty, and it's up to the to the state to prove it. If he is guilty of that, you know, then he should get the just punishment. What they're going to have a hard time proving, in my view, is that he forced people to participate in these quote unquote freak oups, because it's not illegal to be nasty. It is illegal to try to make somebody do something they don't want to do. Yeah, if you if they prove that, then he's in trouble. I hear the argument, and we talked about this a little bit earlier, Robbin, earlier today. I hear the argument that people are making when they're comparing it to Hugh Hefner and saying, you know, Hugh Hefner got away with it, and so on and so forth. The question really does go to the bottom line, question really does go to coersion, right, like did people freely participate. In this or were they forced to? That? To me, on that case is what's going to determine his quote unquote guilt or innocence. Now, when it comes to like the issues of the allegations of like assault. Like We've seen him do some of that stuff. We've seen him on tape doing that, so we know that that is you know, at least in some of these cases, that that's legitimate. But when it comes to the quote unquote freak ass, the question is going to be based on people, whether they were willing participants or not. I also think it's a larger conversation we should. We need to have a larger philosophical conversation too. About our standards where we've had. We've been living in this post nineteen seventies environment for so long. This this like free love, do what you want, be as nasty as you want to be, and. Together know that. And then but now it's like, oh well no, that's like we I think this just again. And we talked about this before and I'm not trying to take it to church, but this is always like this goes back to why it's in. Your interest. To behave a certain way, because even if you think, well, Puffy did the same thing that Hugh Heffner did and all of this, some. People can't do the same stuff that other people do. It just is what it is. That's why it's in your best interest. And I tell I tell young rappers this in particular, tell young rappers this all the time. Get a wife, go ass down. It's in your best interest. It's not only the right thing to do, it's not only the Christian thing to do, but it's. In your best entry. Is don't be out here slanging that d everywhere. Get you a woman, make her your wife, Get you a good woman, make her your wife, and sit your ass down. That's number one. To the other point to the the the case that you're talking about, the Missouri case, that is a tough one because there is some controversy about that, and there's some controversy about that because there is reports that he confessed more than once. And I want to lay this out. I'm just gonna read this because I thought it was very impactful from doctor Nicky Johnson, who's a fan of the show. Shout out to doctor Nicky. She made a post on social media, and I think it's important for us to at least read and digest and then you know, kind of wrestle with that. She said, I couldn't find any reports that there was evidence that suggested his innocence. You could argue jury biased for his trial, but there was plenty of evidence to suggest his guilt, which led to a two thousand and one conviction. He was caught with the victim's laptop in purse. He wore her husband's jacket to cover his blood stained shirt. His girlfriend saw him wearing the jacket and the blood on his shirt. He confessed his guilt to her and later his cell made There was no evidence that another person committed the crime or that there was a violation of nineteen ninety eight evidence collection standards when the crime occurred. DNA collection wasn't standard in Missouri until after two thousand and nine. Forensic examination on previously collected evidence showed no DNA evidence collected that linked him to the crime. But that doesn't prove his innocence. It just means there was no DNA evidence to prove he was at the scene. There wasn't any forensic evidence linking another person to the crime. Either the prosecutor and the victim's family argue to delay his execution because they wanted his sentence changed to life in prison. Still, the victim's family. Believed he was guilty. So so even with that, like, I haven't said much I know for me, I haven't said much about that case because of that, because there's there's some questions there, you know what I mean, And I'm not you know, there are some people who are having a debate over the death penalty in general concerning this. I'm not anti death penalty. I think the death penalty should be resolved to be reserved for like the most egregious of cases, like if you rape and kill a kid or something like that, Like the death penalty should be like in my opinion that it should be on the table, but it should be on the table for the most severe offenses. But so I know people are having a death phones conversation about this, people are having a question about conversation about his innocence. But I do think that there's a lot of there's a lot of unresolved questions, uh, in that in that case, I don't think there's enough that I've seen at least, and somebody can tell me wrong, can prove me wrong, but I don't think that there's been enough that I've seen to say that this guy was innocent. You may want to have a debate about whether he should have been put to death or not, but I don't think that I've seen enough to say that he was innocent. Dance your thoughts on either Puffy or the Missouri case or both, whichever one you want to go to. Yeah, So first with Puff, Puff is in trouble, big trouble. When the government starts using words like racketeering, conspiras see and they start saying that you used your company to fund illegal activities, you're in big trouble. And when the judge decides that hmm, well you're kind of a flight I think you're a bit of a flight risk. Even though you submitted your you submitted your. Passport and says that the government has a preponderance of evidence. You're in deep trouble when you can't get bail and you have those kind of resources. So Puff is in trouble. I think I would honestly be surprised if Puff saw the light of day as a free man ever again in his natural life. Darviille. As you know, when the government says conspiracy and racketeering, the federal government, that's a different ballgame, and. That's what they use to attack the mafia. Yep. The federal government is essentially saying that forget all the nasty stuff, right, that's the stuff that grabs headlines. That's not the that's not the thing that we should be focused on. Right, everybody wants to laugh about the baby oil and all that that that stuff is, That's not it. Man. They're saying that this guy. You they're saying that this guy used his company to fund illegal enterprises like sex trafficking. They don't even necessarily. Need to prove that he was, you know, gay or doing all this weird stuff. They don't have to prove all all that they they they're basic saying we can, we can follow the money, and we've got enough testimony to say that he intimidated people and that he coerced people into doing things. So like he is in serious trouble. Now, as to the Missouri case, I. Have a small connection to that, just you know, boxing spaces on Twitter, but with which his. Son was in. So what I would just like to say is I don't I don't understand why the when the prosecutor and the victim's family and Marcellus's family all say all can come to an agreement, and say even the former governor and say, okay, let's at least postpone or change change the sentence so that we can just work back on the case. I don't understand why we can't, why the current governor of the Supreme Court has an issue with that, Let's just work back on it before we take before we finalize this, before we take this man's life. Everybody involved, from the victim to the prosecutor to even the former governor. Is like, yeah, this is a I mean, this is the most final thing we can do. Let's work back. Let's be sure because if there is even a little bit of reasonable doubt, maybe we got the wrong guy. We don't know, So if there's any doubt, let's just work back on it. I don't understand why why we could not do that. The cynic in me, of course, is always like, well, you know, the government and the state wants to avoid any sort of settlement if something comes back, so that's why they're against it. But that, you know, that's the cynic in me. But yeah, that that's where I have a problem. It's just, well, maybe there's reasonable doubt in the case, and let's let's let's go back, let's work back on it. It's if if it's nothing there and we find out that nothing's changed and this is what we thought it was, then sure, fine, let him pay for his crimes. But if we're not sure, or if there's any reasonable doubt, let's not murder in innocent man, even if he's just. If it's just a chance, let's not do that. Which is you know, like I always tell people, I don't want to sit on a jury because at the end of the day, I just don't want to. And it's unfortunate. That DNA evidence we didn't fully understand it in the nine he's in the early two thousands. Yeah, that's really a shame that it wasn't collected, we didn't understand it properly. There's another famous case in California where DNA evidence wasn't fully understood, and you know that could but you know, it's a different story. So it's just a shame, and I really feel bad for everybody involved. Like I said, I do have a small connection to the case, just by knowing his son, you know, by talking boxing on Twitter. So I just you know, you just feel for his family. You feel for this woman's family, who now I wonder if they believe they've even got justice. You know, I just you just I just feel pretty bad for a lot of the There are no winners here at the end of the day, and that's the sad part to me. Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good point. And I think it's fair to say, well, how come you can't even if you're not going to reverse the sentence, saying why can't you just delay it for a little bit and give time to re examine the case. I think that's fair, and you know, I understand people's perspectives on that. I think the issue, and I mean the problem that people have been going, you know, back and forth with is like you hear people saying, well, is he was he innocent? Versus well let's just say, like what you were just saying, well, let's let's just take a look and make sure, right. I think that's a fair argument. I do think that there's more questions than answers about whether he was outright innocent. And you know, like I read from the comments said got to NICKI made and you know, you know Nikki, I yeah, if she thought that he was innocent, she would she would make no bones about that, right. But like what doctor Nikki said, like the. Family didn't want them to be put to death, right, but they still thought he was guilty. Yeah, you know, but I agree with you in the perspective of, like, well, let's why don't we take another at least take another look at it, because I do believe, like by being somebody who's not against the death penalty, I do believe it should be used in the most like the most egregious of cases, and you should be absolutely sure without a doubt, correct. I agree there should be. And that's my only that that's my concern is that Remember, in criminal proceedings, you don't prove innocence, right, that's on the prosecution. The prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt a person's guilt. But they but the defense isn't there to prove innocence, right, I'm not as a defendant. You're not there to say, here, let me prove my innocence. Right. The defense is. Usually trying to create reasonable doubt, correct, And if there is any reasonable doubt, then we need to press pause. And that's the only thing where that that that really bothered me with this situation is if it's anything within this before we. Take this man's life that makes me say, hmm, we need to we need to press pause. Because God forbid, five years later, we found out this man did not do this for you know, for sure, and now we put now we put an innocent man to death and this other this family doesn't have justice and then there's a real killer that did not that that got away. Right. That that is why when it. Comes to these situation we need to be you need to be sure. There has to be no reason, there has to be no reasonable doubt. And that's the part where I'm that just bothers me. And then you know, the thing that makes us all uncomfortable that we haven't brought up yet is I mean, this is a black man in the South that. You know, it does make you say whether whether you're whether we should or not, it does make you be like, because. With the history of our country in the South, it's just something that we can't like, you can't get passed right, it's not something that that we can ignore. And we're not Nobody here is saying, well, you know, they just killed him because he's a because he's a black man, because Missouri has put white people to death too. That that's not what we're saying. But it's like, it's impossible to ignore our. Nation's history when it comes to situations like this right, so that that you know the elephant in the room as well, Right. Robin, you got anything you want to add on this or are you good? I will say that a lot of people had a petition going around signing it, trying to fight for him, and it was basically ignored. I mean it was. It was a lot of signatures and people were trying to contact the governor. They were calling the phone. It was to the point where the voicemail box was actually fool and nobody can no longer get through m hm. So they they were ignoring the people they did did. They absolutely just did not want to hear it. They did not care. So like going into what you were saying, you guys were saying, it's like, why couldn't they just hold off on it, and you know, see like they really wasn't trying to hear any of that. It's my personal opinion, I mean, I almost I mean, I don't know. I'm a little iffy on it now because of what you were just reading off. But at the same point, I also feel like they were just trying to throw it on just anybody just to get it out of their way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's a possibility because it was a it was a brutal murder, like I believe a person was stabbed multiple times, like it was. It was brutal. And so sometimes in situations like that, it's not unheard of for them to just be like, let's let's just put this on somebody so we can say that we got the killer, right, you know, yeah. I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this. So for prime example, and like you guys are just saying, you don't want to say it's because he was a black man, but you know, yeah, So in a similar situation, I just lost a friend a year ago due to the same exact reason. This man plotted and planned what he was gonna do, and it was brutal. And he even sent the pictures of her, of him laying next to her while she was no longer alive, and sent the pictures to her father and other people, like there was proof enough proof, And guess what that man got. That man got twenty five to life. Mm hmm. He didn't. He didn't get the death penalty. He got he had the option, mind you, he is a white man. Yeah. Well, and in those situations too, like I don't know if I don't, I don't. I don't know. Obviously I know that case because I know I was your friend, but I don't know if like if the death fronts he was put on the table. And this is the thing that Dancy said about a jury like in some cases, and I don't know if this is the case in Ohio, I gotta like, I want to research that. But in some cases a jury can say. No, we don't want to give you the deafinity, correct, And so it's just it can be very it can be very complicated. And when you see a situation like what happened to your friend, if I'm if I was on the jury and it was and the death penalty was in my hands, oh he gotta go, yeah, he gotta go. Yeah it was it like. No doubt clear evidence he was is when you're taking pictures like that, you bragging about it, basically. So. But but the interesting thing too is and I say just interesting, not in a good way obviously, but just interesting in terms of like how this actually goes sometimes is even in cases like that because it was domestic because like he was her ex or something, right, No, they were together, Oh they were still together. So that was like, sometimes the punishment for things like that isn't as severe in a domestic situation if it was if versus something. That was like random, which is crazy to me. That's crazy to. Me, Yeah, because it's not necessary. I mean, it could be plotted, but at the same point, it's not plotted like it's It is crazy. It's absolutely crazy, and there were children involved in that situation. Absolutely, I would have like he would have. Look how a friend of mine was murdered her parents. Her mother is a Christian minister. And was like, I forgive you, but I still want you to be held accountable, you know what I mean. Yeah, And that's that's how it should be. He's on death row right now, you know what I mean. But that's why I'm like, I think it should be incontrovertible evidence, Like if you're gonna put somebody to death, you better be sure. But I do think there's some questions here. I've heard I don't have any like I don't know this for sure, but I've heard that the Innocence Project that chose about to take this case. If that's true, that sends my antenta is up as well. But ultimately I agree with Nante's point that if there's any doubt, any legitimate question, that why don't you put the pause on it to just make sure that you about to put to death the right person, because it ain't no. Right if he's not the right person, it ain't gonna be like no oops. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, make that decision. You make that decision, and that's final, and it is what it is. And the last thing I'll say on this, and. Then we'll get out of here. We'll get out of here and get ready for uh for doncin's. Your point, Robin about people making sign of petitions and things like that, I'm gonna give y'all, the people who are listening on this, I'm gonna give y'all some game, real quick, some game about how the political system works and why these people responded the way that they did, why they didn't care about these signatures. First of all, politicians, generally speaking, only really care about what their constituents have to say. So if these people who were sending if you had a you could have one hundred thousand signatures. On this petition. If most of those people don't live in. The state of Missouri, that governor does not give a damn because he don't have to answer to those people. He only has to answer to the people in the state of Missouri. And that's if he's not term limited, because I don't know, I don't know how long that governor's been in office or anything like that. That's number one. Number two, let's say that the people who signed these petitions, that many of them are. From the state of Missouri. I don't believe that to be the case, but let's just say for the sake of conversation they are. Another reason why he wouldn't care is because those people ain't gonna vote in the general election, or they're not going to vote in large enough numbers to make it lose. Because Missouri is a Republican state, I'm assuming that the governor is a Republican. So if you're listening to this. Right now and you believe either you believe that man it was innocent, or you believe that they should have paused, and you feel some type of way about what that governor did, I'm gonna tell you what you need to do. It's not about going after him in the general election because you're gonna lose. That's a red state. As a Republican governor, you're. Gonna lose if you really want to make your voice heard, because the only thing that politicians respond to that most politicians. There are some good ones who do the right thing just because it's the right thing. But generally speaking, the only thing that politicians respond to is money and votes. If you can't bring money and you can't bring votes, they don't respond to anything, and you have no way to hold anybody a come. So if you actually want to do something in the state of Missouri, if you believe that that governor was wrong for what he did, what you need to do is organize yourselves and go with an opponent in the Republican primary, let them get primary, recruit a candidate, have run against them in the Republican primary. And support that candidate. Because then in these partisan states, whether they're Republican states or Democrat states, the only election that really matters in most cases is the primary because that decides. Who's gonna get nominated. And when you're in a state that has a solid partisan lean one way or the other, you can say, oh, we're gonna vote you, we're gonna vote against you, we're gonna make you lose in November. No, you're not, No, you're not. Your time to make this person lose is in March or April or May or June, whenever their primary is. So, if you actually want to punish this governor, if you believe that this governor did the wrong thing, and you actually want to punish this governor, get yourself organized and support an opponent to him in the Republican primary, primary him and get him out, stop him from getting nominated. That's how you do it. That's some gang for y'all. If y'all actually want to do something. If y'all believe that this governor was wrong and you don't understand why they don't seem to care. About these petitions and phone calls and things like that, this is why they don't care, and this is how you can make them care. So you go against them into primary. And you either make him lose or you make him work really really hard to get to get nominated again. So you either make them lose or you leave them mark that's what you do. So that's some free game for y'all. All right, stay tuned, We have Dante's Hot coming up next here On the others. FCB Faith is your rhythm and preystation. I listen, my mom listens, pretty much the whole family. You don't, I know what You'll come to. Listen to FCB Faith on iHeartRadio Odyssey at FCB faith dot com, or tell your smart speaker to play FCB Faith on iheartradiot True Sir. RAYO, welcome back. Make sure to shoot subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you listen to the show on Apple, please make sure you leave with a five star review and a comment is very important for the algorithm. And for those of you who have already done so, thank you also very much. And now's the time of the show that we like to call Dante's Hot Takes, telling the. Truth whether you like it or not, It's Dante's Hot Takes on the Young Lawns Radio show. So when President Trump got on stage at the debate and said they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats in Springfield, it took people down crazy rabbit holes of our Haitians in Springfield eating dogs and cats? Are Are they eating geese? What's happening? And I think we need to be looking at this situation in Springfield, like, the. Federal government has failed both sides here and we have no winners. So let's look at the Springfield case first. In the seventies, eighties, and nineties, Springfield was a town that you could say was thriving. They had a thriving middle class there were They were a manufacturing town. They used to make things like you know, one of my favorite shows, the Soprano says, you know and open, we used to make things in this in this country. Right. They were a smaller but a city like that, right, Darvo, you wrote about this in your news regarticle. People need to go check that out. But you wrote about this, and one of the things that that you mentioned was like Newsweek called them one of America's great cities. Right. So what happened then we had bad trade deals like NAFTA that stint those manufacturing jobs elsewhere for cheaper labor, sent those union jobs away, and the people in Springfield who could leave and go elsewhere, the people who were upwardly mobile, they left, and people who couldn't they stayed. And they were essentially at the mercy of the town. And what happens when you lose jobs and you lose resources and people leave your community. Well you turned it that we see drugs in crime. We've seen that in American cities everywhere. And so that's why then, and believe it was twenty fourteen, you have the city of Springfield basically saying, hey, we need labor. We're in trouble. We're thinking the federal government left us behind, will take any immigrants because we need a population here, we need a tax base. And why were there twenty thousand Haitians available Because that same federal government that created the issues in Springfield, they created those same issues, well similar issues, because they were running amuck in Haiti. They have been doing a number in South America. Little term we like to call imperialism raping and pillaging figuratively, but destroying certain parts of the planet. And when you create habit or destabilize a region, one of the oldest things known to man is I have a bad situation here, I'm going to seek refuge I am going to seek a place where I can create a better situation for myself and my family. And that's why you have refugees and migrants, not all, right, not all, but those in Haiti. That's what they were there for. That's what they're there for. So you have a federal government that really failed both sides. And the solution was to put a dying city that was left behind with immigrants who have not assimilated to the culture, who have not been integrated well to the culture, to just put them all in the same melting pot and see what happened. That is probably not gonna work, and that's what we're seeing. We are seeing the tension from that, we are seeing the outrage from that, and instead of fixing the problem, we have one side that wants to blame the migrants and the other side that wants to say, hey, anybody who doesn't stand with the migrants, you must be a racist, without acknowledging the nuance of the situation. And of course we have a federal government that would never accept responsibility for their actions. But make no old mistake about it, this is a problem. Of the federal governments making when they essentially destabilize both regions. Right, you destabilize Springfield. And please, I want everybody to understand this. This isn't just a story about Springfield. The story this on the micro level is Springfield, but on the macro level. There were manufacturing towns all over this state, all over this country, especially where we are here in the Midwest. Right, if you want to look at what happened in Michigan with the auto industry, you want to look at what happened in Pittsburgh to steal industry here. In Ohio with manufacturing. This is. Not unique to just Springfield. The federal government did a number on the middle class by removing manufacturing and auto work jobs out of this country. And they did the number on South America and Haiti. And when you merge those, yeah, you've got issues. So that's the that I think, that's the angle that were we need to look at it. We should not be looking at Haitians who are trying to make their lives better and blaming them because that's the story of man. I mean, that's the story of I mean, if you are black and have a Southern Black family, that's what a lot of our people did, right. We called it the Great Migration. Right. My grandparents are from the South and somehow they ended up in New York, right, And I'm here in Cleveland, right, DARVYO, you have a similar story. So this is not right. This is the story of man. Right leaving one place and trying to go another place to or opportunity, and the federal government wrecked opportunity seemingly everywhere. And that's who needs to be blamed here. I think that's a really good point. Actually a little jealous. I didn't bring it up myself. You had half of it, But that's that. This is why we atteamed bro That's that's what you had half of them. Because I thought the point about Springfield and that article again, please go read that Newsweek article because you broke it. Yeah. Yeah, Springfield was not a dump. Springfield is not or was not a dump. It wasn't. Yeah, this is something that something happened there. And again, if you are from Cleveland, if you are from Detroit, if you are from Pittsburgh, if you are from Harrisburg, if you are from certain parts of Illinois, like you should be able to relate to that, because I'm sure if you know, somebody in your family had a union job in the seventies and eighties and it was sort of a thing for the family, maybe they got laid off. If you were in Baltimore or Philadelphia and you lost you know, you all lost port job. You lost union jobs. So don't be so quick to turn your nose up and be like. Oh, well, I don't relate to those people because they don't look like you, because it happened. To us too. And then when we lost those jobs, we had. Our epidemic in the nineties, in the late eighties and nineties, which was the crack epidemic, right, no doubt that happened. So you know, we're seeing in certain in other communities they lost those jobs and now they're having an opioid epidemic. So there is relatability here without a doubt. And you know I mentioned earlier and I mentioned before about you know, the rough time that you know, we've had financially when I was growing up and stuff like that. Well, you know, my entire childhood, my early childhood wasn't like that. My early childhood, we were solidly middle class. You know why. My mother was working at General Motors. My mother used to. Work at the General Motors fish your body plant, and we were solidly middle class when I was when I was a young young kid, and my mother lost her job because her plant closed, and we went from solidly middle class to poor overnight. Yeah, and the job that she ended up having, and because the next job that she had, it was a job she stayed with until you know what I mean, she left, Like I mean, she was there for I think like twenty something years or something like that. Because you know, my mother is like one of those old school that come from from that era, right where you had a job, that's where you at, that's where you stay. But of course that job didn't pay anywhere close to what General Motors is paying. So that's one of the reasons, like one of the reasons why. I have an understanding of the white working class and poor white people and stuff like that. Was because I've lived that, Like I know what they went through, because we went through the same thing. Yep, I saw it firsthand, you know what I'm saying, Like I saw, I know, I felt it. I know what happened. Yeah, lost her job at General Motors when that playing closed, Like I saw, I saw that, you know what I mean. And just like you said, dance, we've we've seen that. I remember. And if y'all know the song Get Up, Get Out by out Cast, that song came out like nineteen ninety four, nineteen ninety five. One of the lines in there was andre three thousands saying they laid my mama off of word general. Motors tripping, Like, you know, I related to that so much because I went through the same thing. So we've seen this, you know what I mean, And I think it's a very I think what you said about the about some of our adventurism, if you will, in Haiti, South and South America and things like that, I think it's a very good point. And it's not to say, like, I'm not an isolationist. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have involvement and that we like we're the leader of the free world. It is what it is. But there have been things that we've done that has not just been quote unquote leadership. There have been things that we have done that have been irresponsible and reckless, and we should acknowledge that, you know what I mean, A lot of a lot of the situation I'm not gonna say, oh, but a lot of the situations that have happened in Haiti, a lot of the turmoil and upheaval that has had in Haiti. Is kind of our fault. Oh absolutely, you know, that's that's a that's absolutely fair and astute point that I do think people should be talking about it. If we're going to examine the role of the federal government in this entire mess, then then I think we should look to it, look at it from the beginning to end. Last verse Dante and Loma. Let's always remember where we can point the finger, and it's usually not at citizens, usually at our you know, at the government. So so follow me on Instagram and Twitter at T Brian t. A E B R y E. Miss O'Malley. Dante almost forgot how to spell his name. You can follow me on Instagram at Real Robin O'Malley and Facebook at Robert O'Malley. And you can follow me at Dida King Pen Area. Where does d P h E K I n G P I am one more time wants send a shout out to Joshua Emmons coming. On the show. Really appreciated. We are out of here, see you next time. This has been a presentation of the f c B podcast Network, where Real Talk lives. Visitors online at f Cbpodcasts dot com.
Ep. 406 - The team's dedication to Darvio's dad, interview with DigitalC CEO Joshua Edmonds and more
