F c B Faith is your rhythm and prey station. I listen, my mom listens, pretty much the whole family. I cannot, I cannot. I canna said, don't, don't and no, don't. Listen to FCB Faith on iHeartRadio, Odyssey at Faith dot com, or tell your smart speaker to play FCB Faith on iHeartRadio. This is the FCB Podcast Network. Great things when they drunk jaw foot Chain says Tom Dah. We don't listen to y'all this coda, We don't listen to y'all this d hold on. Make them scream out now, U sound cause the Rooks in the crowd. Tune in the charge for the out Tune in. The charge for the. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Darby or Kingpinmorrow. Don't forget it as always to like us on Facebook, Facebook dot com, slash the Outlaws Radio, follow us on x and Instagram at the Outlaws Radio. It's been a while, as our longtime listeners. Knows, been a little bit for those of you who don't know. Within the last month, my father unfortunately passed away, so we took some time off to. Kind of deal with that. And I will give a proper tribute to my dad on the next episode. For those of you who know, behind the scenes, my father was very involved. With with FCB, and UH played a very significant role in the company as well, So all of us are kind of feeling it. You know. Nobody liked me, of course, but everybody's feeling it. Because he was so involved in the company. So I will I will address that in full at a later date, but today we wanted to bring you all some information about what's going on in Springfield, Ohio. I know many of you have heard about it, particularly because it was mentioned in the presidential debate. Those of you who know, I think most of you probably know this. But we're we're based in Ohio. FCB is in in Cleveland, so we're based in the state of Ohio. So soon as things start, actually really before even before it was mentioned in the debate, a one of my followers on social media had reached out to me probably about a week ago and asked me if I knew anything about what was going on in Springfield. And at that point I started, you know, doing some investigating and you know, trying to see who we can talk to on. The ground and things like that, and. Satis Kelly has been gracious enough to join us to tell us what she's seen, what she's heard, what she's experienced, what's been going on down there, and we're very grateful to that, and of course we want to make sure that we. Bring that to you. There's a lot of rumors and speculation. Going on, but you know, if you listen to this show, you know we don't play that. We do everything we can to bring you information that is the truth. You know, that's all we care about. We care about getting. To the truth. So we're going to get to our interview with Satisa Kelly right now. All right, we have a very special guest with us today. She is a resident of the area that has been in a lot of news in Clark County. Which is part of which is where Springfield is. Fatist Kelly, thank you so much for it'spending some time with us and welcome. Oh absolutely, thank you so much for having me. All right, so welco us through a little bit about you, what you've been seeing, what you have been aware of about some of the things that's been going on in Springfield in particular, but the county in general as well. Okay, a few years ago, you know, sixteen, eighteen, twenty nineteen, and through there, we started having an influx of some immigrants. You know, we had Mexicans, we had people from some of the Arabic countries. There were some Chinese people. So it was a whole mix of people, lots of different people. Just a few people here, few people there, no big deal. Then when the Biden administration came in, we imploded with Haitians. You know, they're just all Haitians. And about two and a half years ago, I remember my favorite stor Is Marshals and I go there a lot, way more than my checkbooks should let me. And I came home one day and I told my husband, I said, I can't believe this, but I was literally other than the people that worked there, literally the only person in the store that spoke English. I mean, everybody was speaking, you know, in a foreign language. And they were all kind of all over the place, but mostly you know, they were predominantly African American. I thought that they were all speaking a foreign language, so it's like they have to be from somewhere else. And that's when you started hearing about the Haitians and the Haitians are moving in and the Haitians are in this concentrated in this area, and all these different rumors going around, and I'm the person that I'm like, so prove it to me. For instance, there's report after report after report there's fifty people living in a house. You know, they're renting cots by the hour, you know, all of the kind of crazy stuff. And I'm like, okay, where where, give me addresses, give me street names. I want to know where. And very few people shared addresses, but I went out went to those addresses. My first experience was over on Kenton Street, which is just a couple blocks away from where we used to go to church. So I'm familiar with the area and I've helped out with one of the other churches in that area as far as food pantry things and back to school book packs and that for kids. So I drove over there. You know, I was pretty confident that I was safe. It was like a whole other world to me. I mean, I'd never seen that area look like that before. And I went past this address. It's an older home. It's stone and brick, and it has two porches, so it has the downstairs porch for the main entry and then above that is a roof, but then it has a porch that comes out onto the top of that roof, like one style of architecture might call it like a widow's walk, and that's the whole nother story. But it's just room for a lot of people. So there were probably twenty five thirty people on the lower porch, twenty five or thirty people on the upper porch. There were four or five vehicles out in front of the house that had their doors open, their hoods up, their trunks up, and all of these, obviously Haitian men, were all looking in and at the vehicles. And then across the street there's a church, and on those steps in front of that sidewalk there's probably forty or fifty again Haitian men standing around. And it's like, WHOA, what the heck is going on here? And I just drive on by, go down to the corner, make a left, and it's like, wait, it's happening here too. This is just wild. So I get back home and I really start digging deep into the investigating why is it seem like it's only Haitians, And I know why they're concentrated in an area because they all speak the same language, they're all comfortable with each other, and you know, I think that's pretty much acceptable how people immigrate to this country had always has been. That's why you have places like Chinatown. So I start asking around and I find out that either in two two thousand and six or sometime between two thousand and eight and two thousand and nine, we made a proclamation that we were a refuge city. Now that's different than a sanctuary city. And there are only four refugee cities in the state of Ohio, Springfield being one, and they have significant issues here. The second place with almost as much significant issues is a place called Lochland, which is a suburb of Cincinnati. Then we have Finley, Ohio, which is having the same types of things we're having, where they're talking about the animals, and they're talking about, you know, the people dress I don't wear any clothes, and the men bathe in the creek, and just all kinds of bizarre stories. And then the last place is Tiffina, Ohio, which I haven't really heard too much about Tiffin, but I know that Lachland is trying to rescind this order to make matters worse in twenty fourteen. We started with the distance of a so called pastor here. His name is Carl Ruby, and of course he lives in a different city. He helped institute this program called Welcome Springfield, and that's when things probably became noticeable that we had all of these different refugees. So we've got the refugee city, we've got the Welcome Springfield, and then onto the scene arrives the Biden Hearris open the border and just let anyone in without checking any IDs or vetting people or even knowing what their names are, because they leave there their IDs at the border. We've seen that on Cament time and time again. So all of the Haitian people seem to be concentrated in one area. They are the temporary protected status people, which means they are considered refugees and they stay here because they're claiming amnesty. And that's been extended to January twenty twenty six. It was twenty twenty five, and the Harris or Biden Harris administration extended it to twenty twenty six. So that's what we're looking at now twenty twenty six. But those are just for the temporary protected status. You've got the temporary protective status people they can bring six to eight people with them, so I would imagine that would constitute your family, but it seems like it is your buddy. It just seems like these are mostly all men. Is again a bizarre situation. So mostly all men, but they get six to eight people that can come on this refugee thing. And then you have the border jumpers that are illegal. And then you have the people that are from other Haitian communities in the United States, predominantly Florida, who either have been living here or who also have their friends and buddies and things come. So we have three different groups of immigrants, all with Haitian backgrounds living here. Obviously get along fairly well. But yesterday I found out there is such a thing as Haitian on Haitian crime. My problem with the whole thing is if we're a refugee city, we don't have the means to care for these people. I mean, you're looking at a town of fifty four thousand people. In a refugee city status, the immigrants have to live within this city. So we've got fifty four thousand people in the city, and you add at least twenty thousand immigrants within the city. That's the ratio is unreal. And we are told and I kind of did some math, but I'm not a math genius. But if you truly look at the statistics per capita, we have more immigrants here per capita than New York City. And you've been seeing New York on TV. So take New York. Put it in Podunk Springfield, which used to be in nineteen eighty one, like the main street city of America. And we were on the cover of Newsweek, magazine, Newsweek or Time. Yeah that was before I that was before I moved here, but I was going to college here, and you know, we were like this city of the year, and how we went from that to this is just nuts. And they they are, you know, I feel sorry for them. They were taken advantage of in their home country and they're also being taken advantage of here. We brought them in in this refugee city, and it says we need to, you know, help incorporate them, give them jobs, help them live. There's a whole numerous things that you have to do when you're a refugee city. So let's talk about giving them jobs. They are hired through diversity hiring, which is a temp agency. If you're an American, you know a temp agency doesn't promise a full time job. It doesn't give you insurance, it doesn't give you any paid time off, it doesn't give you any leave, It most generally doesn't pay over time. So you've got these immigrants that are they don't know any better that they have the rights that they're here for that are afforded to them under the Constitution and Amendment this, and you know, all those kinds of things. So they're working for next to nothing. They're not getting paid overtime, they don't get any time off, they don't get any holidays. They're paying for rights to work if they don't have a vehicle, So they're totally being taken advantage of, and they're being paid less than an American would be paid in the same position. And these people that have hired them are happy, they're extremely happy because it's saving their business money. But there are some businesses. There's one in particular, he let all of his immigrants go because they were causing a problem with the employees. They were challenging the male employees and they were harassing the female employees, so he just released all of them and they left, so he has no more immigrant employees. So that's a situation with that. But again, it's unfair to these people. They're paying rent for two hundred and fifty dollars a week for a cot, you know, twelve fifteen forty people to a house, depending on the size of the house. Many of the homes have been condemned previously and now these people are living in them. They have no water, sometimes, no sanitation system, no heat. Very unfair. They've been seen publicly nude in Buck Creek bathing, and that's a place that the county and the city kind of took pride in and they you know, they put in whitewater rafting and you know, kind of made it an attraction. We've been working on trying to make our city a place where people would want to come and visit, and now it seems like all of those things are being degraded a little lot of time because of this immigration system. It's taxed our school system, the school systems are overloaded. The first week of school, we had three hundred new Haitian students that had never attended school here before. It's my understanding last year they were getting about forty kids, and that's a report that was put out by the city. They were getting forty new kids per week at the school system, and it was costing approximately ten thousand dollars per student per year to educate them. Because when you talk about educating them, you have a language barrier. They can't speak English. You've got to try to give them all of the amenities that you give to the actual residents, like your handicapped students or your disabled students, those students that have integrated education plans, those are given to the Haitian students, so that takes up all the money from those funds. And then you have these kids in the room with your kid who speaks English, but maybe your kids, you know, a little behind in math or English or social studies whatever. Your kid can't get the attention that they need because the teacher is trying to communicate what a pencil is to some of the immigrant students because they don't speak English. And someone said, well, just put them in a school by themselves. Well, then you're kind of segregating them and you're, you know, putting them in harm's way, and you're exploiting them and all those different kinds of things. You run into some civil rights issues with that. Yeah, but doesn't it make doesn't it make sense to try to at least get them to be able to write their name, speak English, get some basic words down, and then let's integrate you, as you know, those things into the public school system. Well, what I don't understand is why the federal government didn't do that that from the beginning, you know what I mean, I don't understand. I think that's part of there's a number of reasons why, in my view, that these conflicts with the residents is happening. But I think that's one. That's one of the problems right there, is that the federal government really, from my understanding, just basically said, here, you go figure it out. That's it. That's it, that's it exactly. They drop them off by the bus load. And I've heard that we get anywhere from two buses to maybe three a day. But let's say there's at least five buses, and let's see, you get two hundred people at every bus. My gosh, that's a lot of people. So the bus pulls up, they get off the bus. There are vans there that will take some of these people. Now where they take them to throughout the city, I don't know, and I don't know who the vans are yet. I haven't been able to pin that down. But I think that this organization the pastor Carl Ruby started, now it's an organization. Let's go there. Guy says, I'm not getting a dying from this. I guarantee your organization is getting money, and I can guarantee you're getting a salary from your organization. So you are getting money off of the immigrants, and you are taking advantage of them by doing that. So they come and they pick them up, take them wherever. There's always some left that don't really have a place to go. And they get out their phone and literally hike over to the cemetery. It's a couple of blocks away, maybe half a mile, and get to the cemetery. They head straight to the back, which is where the tree line is. That the cemetery doesn't utilize that for burial back there because we don't have that many people dying yet. But it's the tree line that butts up to Snyder Park, which is where everyone says all the ducks and geese and things are deplete. They're being depleted. Now. I drove there yesterday. I did see geese, but it's migration season, so there's geese. I saw two white ducks and three wild ducks, and those were the only waterfowl that I saw there. I cannot say that people are eating ducks. I have, for the life of me, tracked down several they ate my cat stories, but I can never find the actual house or the actual person that's claiming that my cat was skinned and it's hanging in a tree. So are they doing that? Perhaps because they have been found in other cities to be doing that, So it seems to be a pattern or a cultural thing for them, which I found several things online that says their culture does that. But to say that is actually happened here be honest shadow of a doubt. I can't find a witness to it. But I have a witness that did see them grab a duck. So there's that. The conclusion of our interview. When we come back here on the Outlaws. F CB Faith is your rhythm and preystation. I listen, my mom listens pretty much the whole family. Said I don't and no joke, Come Joe, sat. Listen to FCB Faith on iHeartRadio Odyssey at fcbfaith dot com, or tell your smart speaker to play FCB Faith on iHeartRadio. Welcome True Sir out Pray. Welcome back. Make sure you subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you listen to the show on Apple, please make sure you leave us a five star review. It's very important for the algorithm and for those of you've already done so, thank you, oh so very much. Now let's get to the conclusion of our interview. And we also know that there was a there was a police report and a nine on one called about the geek. Yeah, we've been able to and I mentioned this on social media as well, like we've been able to confirm the geese and the duck, but not not the cat and the dog. Right right, But I mean, and I said yesterday on my social media, I said, you know, maybe they don't have a cat, But if that's what it took to get attention on this subject, then so be it, you know, and stop blaming us, stop blaming the people calling us racists and calling us hate mongers and all of those types of things. We're trying to survive. We've got an average salary in the city of Springfield of twenty two thousand dollars, and many of these immigrants, with their benefits and the cash that they're getting without even working, they're making more than the twenty two thousand dollars that these citizens were making. I mean, totally backwards, totally unfair. And how are the immigrants getting this by our tax dollars? Why can't I take my tax dollars and give it to the local children's center that helps with an after school program for you know, impoverished kids. Why does the government get to make the decision on what I do with my tax money? Because it never goes towards anything good. It generally goes towards someone's salary, or someone pockets it, or you find out, you know, years later, that no money ever went to that organization to help people. It just went to administrative costs. It's infuriating. And for the governor to say he's gonna throw you know, a couple billion dollars at us money's not going to solve this issue. I don't care how much money you throw at this, it will not solve the issue. Till you stop the flow. So all of these come misers that keep saying it's not my fault and I don't have a part in it. You can say we're going to rescind that refugee city order, We're going to rescind the welcome Springfield designation that we did. You can rescind that at anytime. You have the ability to do that. They did it without a vote from the people. They don't need to vote from the people to rescind it. Do that deal with the people we have here in some way, manner, shape form however, and move on from there. But you can't keep adding more people and expecting a different answer. It don't work like that, right, And let let's let's dig into that a little bit more too, because I know, and it's the racial angle is unavoidable because you know they're Haitians. But there was a couple of things that I noticed. One Springfield. The city of Springfield itself is about twenty percent black, so it's not so it's not like you guys have never seen black people down there. And I wanted to make that point because I think the image that people are getting, you know, of Springfield is like it's just a bunch of outraged white people that are mad at all these dark people showing up in their city. And like I said, the city itself right now is twenty percent black people. Could be from Sweden. I mean, the color is not the issue. It's culture and language. Barrier, right. And so another source, another Springfield source, told me that there's actually been issues between Haitians and Black Americans in part because of. What you mentioned earlier about all of. The benefits and things that they're being that they are eligible for, that they're getting that the average everyday American resident down there isn't getting. So I know they get well. And see that's where you got to watch the government when they say, oh, they don't get that much money, But benefits translate into money. So yeah, I've heard like twelve thousand dollars a month for rent and groceries. You also, I guess, get money from the government. If you happen to be an owner of a rental, you can get money from the government for just renting to the Haitians. So there's a benefit there. And the Haitians they have each like I've told you, you've got three separate groups that are integrating here. But they just all have to be a Haitian. They either have an EBT card which is entitled you to different foods and things like that, or they've got some other type of debit card that they're using because when you come, you get an initial two thousand dollars because you have nothing when you come, supposedly. So they'll go to the Walmart and I've seen them with carts piled high with all different kinds of stuff coffee makers, toys, food clothes, just numerous things that you can buy at a Walmart store. And they'll go through the register and the cashier will bring it up and they'll hand them the card, and then the cashier has to say there's not enough money on your card, and they just keep handing the card back, and the casher keeps shaking your head no, and then they keep handing the card back, and eventually you end up in a huge fight because they don't understand what it means. I mean, so far, they've given that card to everybody and it works. Why isn't it working now and why can't I just take my things and lead? So that's been an issue. But then on the other hand, when you talk with someone who watches them open their wallet or their coin purse, or sometimes it's just rolled up in their pants. They'll take out a lot of cash and hand it to the cashier to take out what she needs. They're trusting the cashier to take out what the cashier needs to put in the register, and then they're trusting her to give back the rest of their money. Now, I don't know about you, but I got kids that registers that can't even count, right, I don't get back my correct change. So that's a lot of faith for them. And again, that's taking advantage of them. That's taking advantage of them and putting them in a situation that should not be happening. Right. Absolutely. So there's a couple of other things that I wanted to kind of touch bases with you on. One is what this is caused, what this is doing to the housing costs. I've heard that this has been almost pricing some of the residents out, So talk a little bit about what's been going on with with housing. Well, you can get a two bedroom apartment for twelve hundred dollars, which probably two years ago was six hundred, seven hundred dollars and included utilities. Now they're having you pay your own utilities, and my oldest daughter is a victim of that. You know, her rent has went up exponentially the last couple of years and they've had to pay their own utilities. And the reason for that is because, like I said, they have several of them living in an apartment. So there's like a family of and I don't even know if it's a family, but she says there's like twelve or fifteen of them living upstairs from her. So they're using the laundry facilities. Granted they pay at quarter fifty cents or whatever it costs, but that's water and electric that the apartments are using, and because of the increased volume, they had to start charging for those utilities. So my daughter's paying all those utilities which she didn't have to pay before. Yew twelve hundred dollars a month for two bedrooms. Some of the cots that they're renting I've heard are two hundred and fifty dollars a week, and then i've heard as little as one hundred bucks a night, but that translates to five hundred dollars a week, which is more than two fifty. And again I have not found the actual person that is charging this. I just get those stories second hand. But our candidate for State Senate, Kyle Kaylor, does know an individual who owns about six hundred properties and is renting the cots. So I tend to believe him. He's an honest man, he's a Christian, and he sees the plight of both sides. So how have have the residents been dealing with all of this? We've seen obviously some of the complaints in the in the commission meetings, and I believe Springfield is a city manager, a council and city manager right the government, which for people who may not be familiar with because a lot of people don't have that, they're I mean, they have a mayor, but the function is the function is different, it's not it's not the same as if you have a mayor and a city council. You know what I mean. The city manager has more power than the mayor does. The city manager is a person that is. And they're elected, correct, unelected official. That's the problem with America right there, unelected officials telling everybody else what to do, and the rest of us are over here saying we need to vote these guys out. Well, the problem is these guys weren't ever voted in to start with. Right, So, how how are the how is everybody dealing with with all of this right now? It's it's very very stressful. If you go to the bank, Let's say, you may have to wait an hour to cash your check because there's immigrants in front of you, you know, six or eight or two, and they don't understand what's happening. They don't understand the language. Again, they might want to take out I don't know, one thousand dollars and maybe they only got one hundred dollars. So that's an argument, and you know that takes four or five people to try to tell the person you don't have that much money. It's messages to go to the bank or the post office is another big one. I'm not quite sure where they're mailing stuff to, but you can go downtown to the post and they're raking O bills to mail out these packages. I assume they're sending them back home. But again, that just adds more people in the line and it takes longer. All of that becomes very frustrating, and if you're a handicapped person, I can't imagine trying to stand on a cane or use your walker to get around all these people. You know, there's increased flow of people, there's lack of parking. It's not good. There's a lady I spoke with who lives in senior housing, and it is I believe in your housing that's for seniors, but you have Section eight which is government assisted senior housing, and I believe her housing is government assisted. And it's in this neighborhood and she can look out of her window and there is a home across the street with a detached garage running an automotive repair and body shop out of this garage. And she's been fighting this for nineteen months. No one wants to listen. The police say, she's just gonna have to put up with the noise. And it's you know, night and day, the night, you know, five am on Saturday morning, you name it, and it's right out her window. Well, they are not licensed. They're not a licensed business, so they're not paying taxes, they don't have a permit. They have never been inspected or given any type of a go ahead from the EP And I know as my dad owned a barage and body shop and my brother still runs it over in Montgomery County. They have to have a certain drain, and you have ways to dispose of the oil and waste bows of the transmission fluid. And I mean, you can't even fill your air conditioner up with free on anymore. That's a biohazard. So there's lots of things the EPA. The EPA should go over there and immediately shut this place down. They're throwing these contents down the drain, or they're putting it in a sewer, or they're just dumping it out in the alleyway. It makes no kind of sense just for that alone. But they're not paying any taxes, they're not paying any business insurance. They're taking money, they're not paying taxes on that money. I mean, how are they doing this? Because if I would put up a sign in my resident right now and say that I was taking in childcare, they would come and shut me down because I would be running a business out of a residential home. So why aren't they shutting the immigrants down. I've heard that it's because it's a language barrier and nobody can do anything about it. But yet, if you're in federal court, you can go right up to the counter at the federal courthouse right outside the court room, and there is an entire list of language interpreters, and you can pick up the phone and get an interpreter for any one of these hundred languages immediately. So why can't our court system look into that immediate interpreter system. And if these people knew that there were consequences, then they might learn the culture and they might be a little more respectful. I mean, they don't even get a ticket if they're speeding. And if they're caught driving and cause an accident and they don't have a driver's license, they get to drive away in there car. You, you and I if we didn't go to jail, them would at least impound our car and we would get a ticket. So why isn't anything happening to them? So it's it's a two tiered justice system. Yet again, right right, So last question here, Uh, has there been any help from the federal government, any assistance, any anything from the federal government. You mean anything beyond what they offer it every single immigrant in every single city. Right right to the to the to the city itself, to the resident, like, has there been any help. No, if there has been nobody's reporting it. They're keeping it under wraps. But there has been no help our hospital system. You know, we have a special HIV wing now and we've got TV that's rampant, and all of the burths have to be cincearean and you know how like if you're underprivileged when you have a child, they give you formula and they'll give you a car seat and that kind of thing. The Haitians want the car seat, they want clothes, they want to pack and play, they want formula, they want anything they can get for free. And you know who can blame them? I mean, if they're going to hand it out to you, you know, take it. So that extra fund, I'm sure what the fund is called. But now the hospital's out of money. So if you come in and you're underprivileged and you need a car seat, oh well, so much for that, you're not getting one. So they're not giving money now. Schools I'm not sure. Maybe they give money, more money for lunch, you know, because there's more kids, more students, But as far as funding for interpreters or Haitian creole books or anything like that, no, nothing. Well wow, wow, So it sounds like there's a lot going on down there. There is, Yeah, and it's not about cats and dogs. It's a cultural divide. It's stressful to both sides. This is a powder keg down here and car accidents every day. You talk about road rage. Oh man, we don't have the road rage issue yet, but it's gonna end up. And it's gonna be you talk about national news now wait till somebody blows their lid. Wow. Wow, Well, thank you so much for spending this time with us and let us know what's going on, because that's that's very helpful because there's a lot of stuff being said. Yeah, and like I told you when we first talked, my my only. Concern is getting to the truth. So I appreciate you sharing that with me. Oh absolutely, And that's that That's what I am all about, finding out what what is the truth, What is really going on? What's happening? I mean, you read all this stuff on Facebook. I was. I read today some man said they're eating cats, they're eating dogs, they're eating geese, and and I've heard they're eating people. Well, okay, who are they eating? I need a name? Who got killed? So I mean, you know, they're not eating people. For heaven's sake, they're not eating people. But that just is how far fetched things get when you start, uh, what did what did they used to call it back in the day, some kind of a rumor, you know, the alligators and the sewer kind of folklore, legend, bull crap whatever, urban miss let's. Say right, absolutely, well, thank you again. I appreciate it. Thank you, and have a great afternoon. All right, you too. One more time, I want to send a special thank you. This is Kelly for joining us on the show. We really appreciate it. We are out of here. We'll see you next time. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network, where Real Talk lives. Visit us online at fcbpodcasts dot com.
