This is the FCB Podcast Network break when the trunk job foot change at top jun We don't listen to y'all. This the outto We don't listen to y'all. This the hotel. Make them scream out Now, I gotta sound dun because the rockets in the crowds. Tune in the charge for the Outdoor. Tune in the Charge for the Outlaw. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Darthy Oda Kington tomorrow alongside Robin O'Malley and Dante Bride. Don't forget too like. It's on Facebook at Facebook dot com, slash the Outlaws Radio, follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws or Radio. We have a lot of things to discuss. Uh we'll get to the festivities and just a little bit, but first, miss O'Malley, welcome back. We had a little break. Now of time get back to it and do what we do. Yeah, yeah, we definitely took some time. Uh you know, life, you know, as I always say, life were life and so not always bad. Yeah. So I mean, but I've been good though, I mean mostly working focused kind of to myself. Today, I finally, you know, I was cleaning today now that I ain't working today. So yeah, I'm actually currently having me a glass of wine. Yep, yep, Johnny, how you go? You know, I mean good. I took a few days off. I went bounced back between Cincinnati and Columbus for a few days and just kind of kicked in and relaxed. I did go to the casino down while. I went to casino in Columbus a Cincinnati. The one in Columbus picked my ass. That one was that that one was not good to be at all. Actually the one in Cincinnati was much better. I did it. I had a nice little night there, hit cook it out, and drove right back up to Columbus and stayed there for a couple of days and then I came back home. So so I enjoyed myself. I enjoyed myself. Dante. First of all, Man, have you been to the other casinos Columbus, Cincinnati? You're a casino guy like myself. Yeah, I've been to Hollywood and Columbus quite a few times. You know, I used to live in Columbus. I used to live or I used to go there quite often. That's actually my favorite one of the state down bench I've been in the one of Cincinnati, Uh, only once it's okay, and I don't I'm not really a much of a fan of the one here in Cleveland, but yeah, I like the My favorite, at least in Ohio is uh is the one in Columbus, South Georgia. And that's the Hollywood Casina too. Damn that's too damn big man. It's gigantic. I was like, oh my god, and I took the beef. Yeah. I like Hollywood. The dealers are always nice. Dealers are fairly nice everywhere, but the dealers are fairly nice there. I've had some great nights in Hollywood Casino. Really, some incredible nights in Hollywood Casino. Yeah. I remember one time when I was this was this was in college and I had a job. And you can figure out how well this night went. Because it was a Friday night. I had to go to work Saturday Saturday morning. I think I was working like second shift, so I had to work. It was like a cost center job, not making a lot of money, but twelve thirty I had to be at work. I went to the casino at I mean like eleven eleven thirty. By the time I realized what time it was, it was like eleven fifteen, I didn't even care eleven fifteen. The next day. The next morning, I didn't even care. I called off and went home and went straight to sleep. That's how good a night it. Well, I was like, I'm not even going to work today like it at night? Yeah, no, I had, like the best night I had on my little vacation was definitely at the hard rocking Cincinnati because Hollywood kicked my hat and I made almost I almost made it all back in Cincinnati, So that's a good that's a that's a good trip right where. It's like, yeah, all right, I went to this casino and I'm down this much, but then I go to the other casino and I'm back up. So now I'm only down like a little bit. You know what I'm saying. You can't beat it Other than that. How you doing, brother? Pretty good? Pretty good. It has been some week and we having some kind of weather out there in the day, so yes, it's been pretty good though I can't complain. Yeah, man, that wind I was out there earlier today, like that wind was crazy. It was shaking my car. I had to get out, and when I got out, the wind like yank, yank, my door. I grab the door and make sure you ha't get off the hands soon. And then I got up. My hat gone like the wind ripped my hat off of my head and to the point where I didn't even see it anymore. I have no idea that there was no I had no shot of even trying to catch it or track it down or run after it, because when they left my head, it was gone. That's how bad they that's crazy. But you know, oh, I'm sorry, go ahead, Robert. No, I was gonna say, we have to talk about the solar eclipse. We have to talk about that. What speaking of whether and all of this, So we'll get Yes, we'll get to that in a little bit. I gotta address some ish, so I don't want to mix that up with the ish that I'm about to address right now. So we'll so we'll talk about the we'll talk about you know, what we can do. We can do the sellar e clips and tea time too, So we'll talk about that, all right. So, Robin, I don't know if you're aware of what happened with me this past week. I know Dante is, but though because nobody talks to me, we sit it in a group text. If you don't follow the group text, you don't see it. But okay, well yeah, you're right. But but anyway, so there is a I guess you can call him famous or used to be famous, black political commentator, black intellectual as he views himself by the name of Roland Martin, who I know. Not only do I know, but I've interviewed him before on this show, and he's interacted with me positively on social media before, He's shared some of my commentary before, all sorts of things. So earlier this week, there was a conversation that kind of dominated social media, as many other stupid things do, over this whole voter ID thing and a lot of times, you know, there's a lot of states that push voter ID, like you have to have an ID in order to be able to vote. We have that here in Ohio. We have a voter ID loan on the books. And a lot of people say that it's discriminatory, it's racist, it's racist against black people because we don't have an ID. So I said on social media, you know, there was someone who had made a post like that, and I personally find that to be insulting because I've been Black a long time, and I don't know nobody Black that doesn't have an ID. Now we're not talking driver's license because not everybody has a driver's license, because everybody does. Not everybody drives. But we're talking an ID. You can get a non drivers idea as a matter of fact in Ohio now they give it to you for free. So because of the voter ID laws. So I made a comment that these people must think we're stupid. Essentially, that's essentially what I said. They must think we're stupid because they think we're not capable of getting an ID. So mister Martin decides that he's going to jump in and make a comment to me and call himself trying the sickest minions on me, where he says, nah at d the Kingpin, you're just stupid if you don't get voter suppression. So of course I responded, I'll read you my response and then I'm going to elaborate a little bit more here on this ship. So my response was, I've interviewed you before, you've retweeted me before more than once at roland S Martin, So I guess I'm only stupid when you disagree. I've always been respectful to you, whether I agreed or not. So instead of responding to your petulance, I'll just toast the man I used to respect. A lot of people like that response. A lot of people said it was classy and brutal at the same time. And the interesting thing is Roland, who likes to get in back and forth with people, never responded directly to me after that. He responded to other people who were commenting on the thread, but he did not respond directly to me. Because a very interesting thing happened, people including like my brother Dante, started speaking up. It didn't go the way that Roland thought it was going to go. There were people who were speaking up defending me. And that's what happens when you have receipts in the community and people know that you actually put in work and that you don't just sit and talk about it. So I just wanted to just take a little bit of time just to address in a longer form that ish. First of all, it's amazing to me how I'm the bad guy because I refuse to believe the black people are incapable of getting an ID. You can talk about other because people wanted to bring in other issues that could be construed as voter suppression. I get that ID ain't one of them, especially if they give it to you for free, like Ohio this if you can go to the DMV and get an ID for free. Like you need an ID to do anything. You need an ID to travel, You need an ID to buy alcohol, you need an ID to buy cigarettes. You need an ID to go into some of the fine establishments that Dante and I were just talking about earlier in the show. You need an ID rent a car, You need an ID to rent a hotel room. You need an ID to rent an apartment. You need an ID to do a whole host of things, to get a loan from a bank, to have a bank account. There are, like, I don't know, all these people who don't have IDs. How are you living in today's America? What are you capable of doing when you need an ID to do everything? You need an ID to sign up for Medicare and Medicaid and food stamps and welfare and all these other things. How how do you survive if you don't have an ID. Once again, we're not talking about a driver's license, because I know quick, go ahead, real quick. People talk about you know, poor people and all this type of stuff. Well, again, IDs are free, State issued id's in Ohio are free, and you need an ID to play the lottery as well, which we know is a poor person's tax, but you need an ID to do that as well. So can't win to make a millions without an ID either, that part too, that part too, So like what do we do? So what are we talking about? So I'm the bad guy because I'm like, no, we're capable of getting an ID. That's number one. Number two. The very interesting thing to me is, you know, of course, there were a lot of a lot of people, a lot of a lot of friends on my side that were like, man, you used to tear them apart. And I thought about this, I said, what what could I say? That's worse than the reality that Roland Martin is living in. That he went from someone who was a respected black intellectual in the country. He went from that to being a Twitter troll for likes. There's nothing I can say that's more pitiful than his reality. The reality is that he went from someone who's respected to the point where there's a lot of people in the community he claims to represent that don't respect him though, because of some of the other things that he's done, some of the other ways that he's conducted himself. So there's nothing I can say that's gonna make reality even it's gonna be any worse than his actual reality, you know. And the interesting thing is, like when I got all those responses, and of course you had people on his side saying the goofy, the goofy stupid things and riding with him, and that's okay. But I have people riding with me too. So this thing didn't play out the way that he thought it was. He thought he would just be able to do a do a drive by commentary and call it a day, but it didn't work that way. If you go to his the last time I checked his tweet, every quote tweet of his original comment is in support of me, every single one of them. The last I checked the Hoe met to that that might have changed because I haven't checked it in a couple of days, because it's already it's already died down. But it's just it's very interesting to me to see what the things that the people who are supposed to represent us, who say they represent us, what they pushing, what they don't. Why is this now a five alarm fire during a presidential election year. It's because Black people are unhappy and they try and these folks in leadership quote unquote leadership are trying to find ways to get black people enthusiastic to vote when the community is not really enthusiastic to vote. Right now, that's all this is about. You know, A very good friend of mine, Colin Jackson, who has experience in this space, said on Twitter as well. He said, if IDs were so important, how come these parties don't organize to make sure that people get IDs. You raise all of this money for your campaigns and for your own private events and all the expensive chicken dinners you do. If it really if it's really an issue, if it's really that severe of an issue, then how come you don't make sure that people get IDs. It's because it's a political tool. It's a political ploy. They're gas lighting our community, which is what they do when they have no legitimate reason to push us to the post, when they don't have anything to stand on, they go to gas slighting. That's what they do. That's what they did. That's what Roland did, and it was obvious to anybody who doesn't think in that same foolishness. Dante your thoughts since you were involved in the response. Well, so, my biggest thing with social media is that it has allowed people to speak to people in ways that they just wouldn't in public or in person. And it allows people who don't know anything about you to speak to you any kind of way and just a word of advice. You don't know who you are talking to all the time on social media, because that's sort of the beauty and the curse of it, right, Like you could be talking to some you can make friends with people all over the world, but you can also make enemies with people all over the world, right just by being a keyboard warrior. And so I just think people need to be more mindful of the fact that, like everybody you see on Twitter, just because you don't see them on you know, Fox News or MSNBC or seeing it, that doesn't mean that they don't have real experience in what they're talking about. That doesn't mean that they're not actual doers. And I believe that there's a place for everybody within the community if we're talking about progress, So some people are meant to talk right Roland is a talker, and some people are supposed to talk and do things right, So I just my response for Roland to Roland was just like, you have no idea who you're talking to, right, because people actually do work in the community, and if you know Darvo in the city of Cleveland, he does so to come at him and say, well you just you know, using words like stupid or you don't understand voters, it's like, no, actually, like what he we hear like on the ground for real, in our in our community. So that's one thing. You have no idea who you're talking to. And I see that a lot on social media. You see that a lot when you know people are arguing with somebody. It's like, dang, do you even know who you're talking to? Like I know this personally. You know Darvo, you have a bigger platform. But I've seen situations where it's like, wow, I know this, don't guy only have like six hundred followers, But like he's actually a lawyer in real life, and you argue in the criminal justice system with him, but you don't you don't know who you're talking to or like you know what I'm saying, you arguing about boxing with this guy, and this guy's actually a professional fighter or an amateur boxer, like you should probably stop, you know what about say that. I was just about to say that, you're told you're buying an example that you saw and like the boxing chats of like people arguing with someone who is actual in the boxing space exactly. So it's like sometimes you may you don't know who you're talking to, So maybe just calm down a little bit when it comes to the insults and any other thing. Uh, Roland, listen, man, I am. I try to give certain people grace, but you will never catch anybody that I associate with torking and nay naying and quite literally what we would call tap dancing or shucking and driving for certain people. You would never see anybody that associate with doing that. So when Roland Martin or anybody like him tries to sit on this high horse and be pompous and I know the issues and I've been fighting the good fight or I've been doing this or my record can say this. No, no, no, no no, you are on video yo shucking and jiving for the same people who you say oppress us. Stop. You have no credibility here. And that you know that that to me. You know, Roland Martin is supposed to be uh. He he has said he was boulet. Uh. He's supposed to be. You know, he is in a fraternity. He is supposed to be you know, that talented tenth right, he is supposed to be the you know, one of the appointed leaders in our community. Right. Well, part of the problem with that class of people, uh is that we see how you bend over backwards and do the bidding of those who you say oppressed the nineties. So and I'll just I'll just leave it, leave it there. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a it's a very interesting dynamic. And especially you know what was funny is a friend of mine who's a solid Democrat, had called me about the situation and they were pissed. They were actually pissed the Roland and was like, you know, Roller should apologize, just stand the third And you know, Chris Evans was another guy. I think that's his I think that's his name. No, Captain American is his name on social media or whatever. He said something that was so ignorant, basically saying, oh, well, let me break this down for you, because I know that your IEP scores must have been the lowest in history or something to that effect. And I'm like, well, you, this's funny that you again insulting in the intelligence of someone who was an honor student in college. Right, So it's like, I'm like, this is so ignorant. I just immediately blocked him. But my friend was like, you know, they should be lifting people like you up instead of attacking you. And I think, Dante, this is kind of the unfortunate thing that we have with within the culture where it's like this, we want to respect our elders, and we are taught in our community to respect our elders, but when you have people like Roland who abuse that and don't show themselves to be respectable, I think that causes a problem. Yeah, it's hard for me, man, when it comes to when it comes to guys like Roland, just because like again, I've seen you. I've seen you champion yourself as one of the talented tenths, right, I've seen you do that. I've seen you call yourself fule. I know that you are in a fraternity, and I know you know he's in a divine non fraternity. I understand that, and I understand. I know what you used to be or what you think you used to be, but you're really not as important as you think you are, and you really don't have the kind of cloud that you think you do. Because my generation saw you torking and they name on stage with Hillary Clinton. That's right, and politics aside, that ain't a good look. I don't like what we perceive to be shucking and jiving or tap dancing for I don't like the way that look that that looks back. Whether she's a Democrat Republican. I'm taking her politics out of it. I'm just talking about the optics of this is a white politician. You are supposed to be off of progress for black folk, right, this is this is what you said. You are a part of the talent stents for us, right, that's what That's how you portray yourself. But then when I when it's election season, you up here twerking and they nay trying to get me to vote for somebody, I'm uncomfortable. So you know, it's just it's like you said, it's very hard to respect you, and it's hard for me to look at you as somebody who I should respect. When I I've seen your history of the last ten years or so. That's right, that's right. And I think sometimes and we'll close with this, but I think sometimes Dante, our generation kind of gets a bad rap of not having respect for elders and some of us. Some of that criticism is accurate, you know what I mean. There are some people in our generation that are way to disrespectful. But I also believe that there are some folks in our generation that have seen folks who we are supposed to be able to look up to, people who are supposed to be our leaders, behave in ways that we know is not beneficial to our community. So it makes you look at them differently. You don't get to still have that cachet, that respect, that reverence when you are openly behaving in ways or pushing things that are not beneficial to our community, even though you're in the position that you're in because you say you're a representative of our community. It's hard for people under the age, for people who are forty and under, to go along with that. And I think it's almost like the George Carlin line, like behind every cynic is a disappointed idealist. I think a lot of us what you see from a lot of us is disappointment. It's not necessarily disrespect, it's disappointment because we see people who are supposed to be leading us and they do things in an ar view betrays us. So as a result, you lose respect for those people because they end up not being to you what they said they were going to be, and not being what they represent themselves as being. And it gets to this point where they go from being a representative of the community to just another elitist. I get a last word, Dante. Yeah, I was just saying, I wonder if if he realizes that, or if he's reached a point in his life where he's so oblivious to how he's actually being perceived in the community, because I mean, most a lot of people just see him as a talking point, you know, a talking head running you know, running interference for white liberals. It's like, I mean, you know, if that's I can understand if you know you were aware of that. But I don't think he is right. His entire persona doesn't doesn't seem to relate that he's actually aware that most black a lot of black people see him, especially you know, thirty five and under would see him as like a character, right. A lot of people don't and that I know don't really respect that, right. So I wonder if he understands that or if he thinks that he's still revered and respected. Yeah, you know, It's it's funny because you know, years ago when I interviewed him, and this is probably about about eight years ago, I think something like that. I told him to his face that I respected him. I told him to his face that I respected him. And when I tell when I tell somebody that I respect him, that means something to make because everybody do will get that, you know what I mean. So I told him to his face that I respected him. And for him to interact with me like that, knowing that I've told this man that I respected him, and knowing that I've always been respectful to him since, regardless of whether I agree with him or not. And there's a lot of stuff he says I don't agree with, and to see him behave like that says a lot about who he is or who he has become. And I'll leave it at that. All right, Stay tuned, we have tea time with Roe coming. I'm next here on the Outlaws. 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But we're gonna go ahead and we are going to go with it's been a lot of beef. I do want to say there's been a lot of beef behind a lot of rappers, females and males as of like truthfully, like the past week or so. So anyway, these names you wouldn't expect to be beefing like. They're probably some of the most humble ones out there, which is j Cole and Kendrick Lamar. So I guess you know they've been having some I don't really know the whole backstory, and but I do know that Jake Cole he was dissing Kendrick Lamar and one of his most recent songs that he dropped. But then he turned around and he was like, that's the lamest thing that I've ever done in my life, and I moved in a way that I spiritually feel bad. So originally he felt like he felt the need, like he was obligated to respond to Kendrick Lamar because all that's what the fans wanted, that's what social media wanted, that's what the people wanted, and so he say that's why he came with that. But then he was like, yeah, this don't feel right, you know, let me publicly acknowledge this and apologize and and to me my personal opinion, I feel like I have so much respect for that because it I don't It don't always have to be like that, you know what I mean, especially coming from Ja Cole. You know he's he's, like I said, he's one of the most humble ones there is and you wouldn't expect something like that from him. No, instead of giving my response, we're gonna go to duntay, I'm taking say what he was saying before the show. J Cole is a sucker. Let's just put it out there. He's a sucker. This pole doesn't feel right in my spirit. It's a farce because let me let me just let me just explain something to everybody here. Rap is a competitive sport. I could understand if J Cole actually had if J Cole was actually one of those type of rappers and Kendrick was one of those type of rappers and they had those affiliations in a beef could lead to something different. No, this is this was a rap of who got the best pen, who's the best who's actually the best lyricists, who got the best bars in the game. That's what this was about. This wasn't no gang stuff. This wasn't anything like that. It never has been with Kendrick, It never had has been with Cold, So we was never getting to that. So J Cole just don't want to smoke. Although even though J Cole for the last ten years has basically been saying in all of his raps because I listen, has essentially been saying, I'm the best and if anybody gets out of the line, I'm ana smoke him. And if and if y'all want to smoke, come get it. And if you got a problem with me, let me know, because I smoke a rapper. All of this stuff. He's been saying this for a decade. And so when Kendrick poked his head out, then you want to cop Please, No, he's a sucker. And then let me tell you this. Kanye West, who's not even an MC, not even a quote MC like we consider he's not one of those type. J Cole dissed him when he was two days out of a mental rehibit out of mental rehab, ja Ole dissed him with false profits. So his spirit was okay to this a guy to dis a guy who's not an MC, who's a non threat, who's fresh out of out of like a mental heal hospital. But when somebody says, okay, you say you the best, I think I'm the best. You you you you, you got a stomach ache. You don't want to you don't want to play. No, it's not a competitive sport anymore. We know. And this is And let me tell you something. Okay, my mom is from the Bronx. Okay, my family herd line in our family where our family is southern, but through the Great Migration, our people went to New York. So okay, this is in my blood here. Rap has always been a competitive sport. And I can tell you I would understand if this was like YG on the West Coast and like, uh, like let's say YG and Schoolboy Q and one of them was like, nah, we grown, we don't need those guys have certain affiliations with certain organizations. And you understand what I'm talking about. If you know the rap game, that would make me uncomfortable because like, okay, somebody can die behind this. This ain't that. Ain't that Cole and Kendrick. This is just who got the best, who got the best bars, who really the best? That's what That's what this was about. And J Cole didn't want no part of it. This isn't about maturity, This isn't about growth, this isn't about any of that. This is this is J Cole not actually being a part of the culture. That's what this really is. This is J Cole's fans who will tell you no, you just gotta be smart enough to hear it. You just have to have an elevated level of knowledge. Oh really, because he didn't want to go there with a guy who was better than him, That's what that was. This is like if if if Lebron did all of this talking about, well, I think I'm actually the goat, now I'm the go I'm I'm the best player of all time. If somebody said, hey, I'll build a time machine and you can go play Jordan one on one and Lebron said, nah, they don't feel right in my spirit. That's what this is. That's what that is. He don't want to smoke. He a sucker, and that's cool. You can just be that. Don't ever tell me that. You don't ever tell me you the best rapper in the game ever again, because you not, because when the time came to prove it, you back down. Let me tell you let me just say this as a student of hip hop, everybody got they moment, right, everybody got that got they moment. J co nas you don't want it? Would hold Na said? Oh really? Oh really? I mean we we got plenty of examples, plenty of examples of guys who never got to a level of like physical violence or or shooting, who was just like you dissed me. Well, I'm gonna show you I got the best bars, so y'all can miss me with this whole J Cole is j J Coole is a sucker, and J Cole didn't want to compete, and J Cole got exposed for what it really is. So here's the thing. I'll just say one thing and then I'll give it. So J Cole is still a good He's still a good rapper. I still like J Cole's met. But here's the thing. There was one tweet that I think was a perfect describe this perfectly. It was like J Cole back and down to the first rap battle that was never in any threat of turning violence. Ever, wasn't nobody about to pull up on Kendrick. Wasn't nobody about to pull up on J Cole with the gun. That's come on, man, that was never like that, and they don't even have cru and Darby DARBYO is laughing because you know I'm right. He know I'm right. But but I think he liked J Cole and I like Jacob, I like I like J Cole. But you can never ever ever be one of those guys ever again. You just can't. You just can't. You're not that guy because no, like you said, this isn't even dangerous. This isn't I mean, this ain't even I could even understand a guy like me Mill, right, and he's been in the news for a bunch of stuff, But a guy like a battle situation where Meek Mill could get dangerous because of where he comes from and some of the guys he rolled with, right, not necessarily saying Meek is dangerous, but some of the guys in certain crews may be dangerous. That's why I said, like if it was yg or like when Nipsey was still alive, or like you know the game, you know these some of these guys got certain affiliations where it's like you need to be careful with those think that there's a certain element that maybe they won't do it but there's guys that they roll with or guys that they care about or care about them that would appreciate what you have to say. But Kendrick Lamar and j Cole, really, come on, man, stop it stop. This ain't that. This is just who got the best team. This ain't no different than than if you talking smack at the lunch table about I'm the best basketball player in the school and then I come in to lunch room and say, no, I'm the best basketball player in the school. We're going right now, Yeah, we're go settle it on the court at recess. We're gonna go after school or the third period in gym class that we're gonna really see, That's all that was and wasn't up for it? All right, Robin, your thoughts if you got any more thoughts on this, If not, go on to the next You know, I was I was gonna cut Dante out before you know. Originally I was gonna try. I was gonna try to. I was just gonna try to go up against him. But I don't think I'm gonna get this one. So I'm gonna let that. I'm gonna I'm gonna let that one go. Just this one time, Dante, So don't don't take it to the head. He just didn't want to smoke. And I'm telling you, I think that's okay. If you don't want to smoke, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm gonna go ahead and move along. Let me mind my business now. So we're gonna go ahead and actually go to the next battle. Uh. So the next battle is Chris Brown. He dropped a new track, Tender. So he I'm gonna try to say this. What I'm saying is okay, I'm gonna try to say this. So basically, I'm gonna change the words around a little bit, just a little bit, all right. So he says, people talking about they'd be loyal, but yo, he probably at the spot right now eating d You know what I'm saying. I'm next, you know what I'm saying. Right then he says, wait, hold up, wait, wait was that himber No? So that one that one is Quevos, that one's Puevos. Let me come back to that. Let me come back to that. Okay, So christ start off, Sovo said, what now, I'm gonna come back to Quevo. Okay, I'm gonna come back to Clavo because I cannot start off with Quavo. Okay, you cannot start off with Quavo because Cbo response. Okay, God, Chris Brown says, Okay, now f in my old bees. Ain't gotta make us equal snipping that nineteen forty too, because I don't do Cuevo freak bees. She like Catsu migos, not the migos. I don't f with bougie bees. Man. That's the s is all the hype. So then, because you know who he's talking about, right, yes, okay, So Cuevo responds, and he says, they talking about they be loyal. You'll probably at the spot right now eating d You know what I'm saying. I'm next. You know what I'm saying. He says, I'm in the spot. He signs the stones, signs the stones. You did the bee wrong and now the be gone. She posted with a thug, Yeah, with a thug, call me the bee phone. She won't come home. Don't beat her up, don't beat her up. It must be the drugs. It m must be the drugs. You need to cross out your pluck. Oh damn wow. They all because of Carucci, because Chris Brown. So that's what it's about It's about Chris Brown used to day Cruci. He was maddening love with her. Screwed up like you know, you know how when a man screws up and then they realize dang, you know. So I mean you don't know, but you know, you know, because I'll be talking crap exactly. I'm a car carrying member of the Faithful Black Man Association, So go ahead. So you know he messed up with Carucci. It's been it's been years years. He actually came out with a song at one point, like basically trying to publicly apologize to her, even said her name in it. So that's basically standing outside the window with your boombox trying to sing get your girl back, you know. So now he's saught it because quevos dating her and this just came out of the blue, like like give it up, love, give it up. She's gone, She's gone. So I have a question. It's kind of related. But I was just thinking about this when you said that, Like the whole standing outside with your boom box trying to get your girl back? Has that ever worked on you? Nobody has ever actually tried that? It might no, No, yeah, I can't really say, because no, I guess it really all depends on you know, it really depends the person. It depends on the situation, who the person is, what the history is. It really all depends because otherwise it's going to be singing like Rihanna when she said you standing outside should be dogging them, you know. Otherwise that's playing in my head and I'm gonna stand there, Lafe and like nobody. You know, all right, I'll tell you your thoughts. Yeah, I don't know, man, Chris, Chris always in some type of some type of mess. I don't know. I'm like Darby, I can't relate. I'm a member of the Faithful Black Man Association. Remember, I don't know what christ is because I was told black men don't cheat, So I don't know what he is. You know what's funny, though, It's funny that Robin did this story after the last story because Wednesday, I will say about Chris Brown. Chris Brown got more heart than some of these rappers. Oh Chris Brown, and go get them hands? Oh yeah, j Cole though he is so he is really a discretion. He wrote a remember the whole that nods out You let him down? Again, Jay, you let nods down again, Jay, I like Jake, but that is the past. Leave the past in the past. This passionately and because it's family got New York Times, so they feel this, you know, a hip hop they don't play. This is the spirit of hip hop? Though, How could you do this? How you always talk about if anybody get out of there? I'm done, Yes, I do. I actually have a very interesting topic, and so I'm gonna give the topic and then I'm gonna give my input and y'all can do with whatever you may with that. So I first and foremost, I do not know how to pronounce this girl's dang name, So Aoki, we don't go with that. Aoki Lee Simmons. So that's Russell Simmons's daughter. Okay, it's his youngest daughter. So she's twenty one years old. She's very beautiful, but she's very child mind like you know what I mean. Like she just she's still young minded, you know what I mean. So she was dating a sixty five year old man, and it's at first, I want to say, this blows my mind a little bit because I have a niece who was going on twenty one years old and I will kick her. Listen, I'm so glad my niece is so just she'd she'd be into books and going to school and out the way. I couldn't even I would mess her up. But I don't you know, that's no, No, twenty one years old dating a sixty five year old man. So I do want to say, yup, yup, We're gonna just go with that, just you know, exclamation three of them exclamation marks. Ew. I can't even imagine trying to kiss that man. I cannot no. And only she was like trying to get him to stop at certain stores and like get certain foods, and they were like out of the country, and like the way she was asking, and he was totally disregarding it, like laughing and just like oh he he And he's got a strong accent, and it's just like, cis you over here trying to have a sugar, daddy, and you ain't even getting the sugar, you know. Like they ended up splitting up, obviously within that week, and it's probably because she didn't get what she wanted, but or he got what he wanted one of those two ways. But I will say this, there is, I personally would say there should be a certain set limit on an age group. And even if people say, like as far as dating, you know what I mean. But people say like, oh, she's twenty one years old, she's grown. I had a friend he was commenting on the post, and I've seen his comment, and I was like, I'm like, now, come on, now, like, if we're gonna be anything, let's be for real. Like she's a young girl. She still has a child mind, she still has a lot of things to learn to be dating somebody of that age. And he's like basically saying, like she's an adult. That's just too consenting adults dating. And you know it doesn't matter, No, it really does, it really does. She still don't know anything. How do I know that because my niece is twenty years old. I'm teaching my niece how to learn about credit, building credit and how to drive and how to catch RTA buses to get to work and all this stuff. I'm teaching her about this and cars like, so, no, no, it's not she's still a child. Well, I mean, the loss says she's an adult. Her mind and her body looks like she's a damn twelve year old. F out of here. No, I'm not approving it. I'm just saying it is legal. I'm not. I don't prove it, I don't condone it. I'm just your man. Got to take a pill every time YO go to you know, oh uh, do tell you what you think about this. That's a very very big age gap, and it is of course, it's an uncomfortable age gap. But there could be some maybe like a financial arrangement or of course you know, so you know, in that case, I don't judge just because I mean, like listen, man with two consenting adults. I'm not a moralist when it comes to you know, I don't as long as that is, as long as they are legal. She's not a child, that's right, I mean legally not a child. I you know in twenty one. Hey, y'all just be safe and that's it, you know what. You know what's wild though, it's like he can still obviously he can still get her pregnant, of course listen, And you know what I kept thinking, who was the one? Was it Mariah the scientist? Was it her? Where she said? I might be wrong. I apologize if I got the wrong person. But it's talking about Eddie. Am I your baby. I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine. So this young girl talking to this old man. Hell no, and then your baby daddy's so old like he gonna die before the baby even born, Like come on. Yeah. But at the same time though, I mean, women don't say much when the cougars be going to get the boy toys and all of that. Oh I do, I do, and listen a mother of an Okay, it's really all depends. It really really all depends. Like it really all depends on the age gap. Like I won't I won't butt in, or I won't say anything to a particular age You know what I mean, right, I'm we talking about sixty five year old Yeah, of course, I mean this is absurd. But you know, twenty one years old dating a sixty five year old woman. I'm a crack jokes on him every day all day. Now, now let me ask you this before before we move on. All right, Dante, if you did not want kids, because I know you want kids, If you did not want kids, would you mess with a cougar? Uh? Probably probably not. What's the what is a cougar for me? I mean, I'm they would be probably mid to late like late forties, early fifties. No, probably not No, Well, you know, if I didn't want children, yes, you did not want children, maybe she would have to be I mean if she depended on what she you know, what she looked like, personality, all that type of stuff. But yeah, maybe if I didn't, like, if I didn't want children, yeah a Mandoh you asking, amandas though men are gonna say yes, not necessarily, I mean, even though I think about it, he's not guaranteed, so if I exactly, but I mean, listen, leve me mind. I just thought it'd be an interesting question. I really actually have a friend that's so the same friend that commented on that post. I've actually known him for years. I've known him for years well so to speak, social media have known him. Well anyway, he is. I think he's about my age, and he actually dates cougars. He dates older woman. He prefers them like granny, old, like old, and I'm like, I'm judging you, but I'm you know, do what you do like that's cool? I would I would if if she was fine and I didn't want kids, like the The big sticking point for me is that I want kids, So it just gets to a point where even if you find as a cougar just biologically, you know that's a problem. I mean, they can have them, they're just gonna be old. Where it gets it gets. That's when I say, it gets to a certain point where it just don't work no more. Unless they hit menopause. Then you did ain't no good? Right, That's all right, you know what I mean. So so yeah, so that's that's different. But if I didn't want you, if I didn't want kids, I consider messing with the cougar. Y'all hear that. Y'all hear that. But I mean if I did not I do want kids. Therefore that's not an option from because I do want kids. If I did not want kids, yes, I would consider it, because some of these cougars be bad. I ain't gonna lie, do you know what. I'm not even gonna lie to you. I have one particular friend, she's one of my model sisters, and I can tell you she is absolutely gorgeous. Like she looks very very young. She looks like because her hair is like silver. But she she is just perfect in every aspect and it looks like she just dyed her hair that color, and I'm like, girl, you are bad. That's that's awesome. Go ahead, bad but but bad, bad, bad, That's what I'm talking about. All right, last thing before we go to break the the eclipse. Did you watch it? What did you do? Where we're at? It was so you know what, I was actually at work before rate before it as it was starting, and I hurry, even grabbed the kids snacks and grabbed them juice and Mommy's juice, and you know what juice I grabbed. But and you know, a Harry think came home. I knew I wouldn't going to make it nowhere else the sun is usually shining like rate perfectly where I'm at, and it was awesome. I can tell you it was the most magical thing. Like that's the best I can explain it. My eyes actually started watering up during the eclipse because I'm a nature nerd naturally judge me if you judge me, if you may, but I absolutely loved it. Accept accept the part where Darvy, I gotta tell you this part right, so my daughter mind mind you all the listeners. She is ten years old, okay, so she's at that preteen stage and she occasionally she'll try. She'll try with the little the little attitude occasionally, but she know who her mam is. During the eclipse, while the moon was passing, and she says something smart to me, I said, who the hell are you talking to You must have thought that was your brother speaking and he's sitting there outside as the moon is passing right and she goes you. I said, oh, no, you ain't talking to me. And then she gets smart again. I said, girl, wait till it is Wait till this moon pass over the sun. Wait, wait, wait till this moon passed. I had to sit there and I had to tell myself, Robin, everybody's emotions are going to be all over the place right now because of the eclipse. It'll cause people to either just you know, be very moody, just emotional, angry or tired. And I had to remember that, so I had to take a step back. But it was. It was absolutely amazing, Dante. Did you see it? Yeah, I was at work, and uh we went outside. I spent maybe a better part of an hour just watching it get dark and watching it, you know, feeling it get cold outside, and then you know, putting the glasses on it, and finally, you know, we were at the full eclipse, saying like, wow, this is this is really really cool, like really really cool. I went outside without a jacket, and I didn't realize that it was gonna get that cold, and so I yeah, that was the only the only negative. I knew it would get dark, I knew, but I didn't know it was gonna get cold, and obvious, I mean, I should rite the sun was blocked out, so of course it's you know, it would the temperature were cool. But all in all, man, it was actually a really cool experience. I had missed the like the partial eclips that we had in twenty seven team I think it was I missed that one. But this, I mean, this was actually really really incredible, once in lifetime experience. And yeah, man, just for like those ten minutes, it gets midnight pitch black, and then all of a sudden, you know, we're back, like nothing ever happened like that. That was it was really really cool, really really cool. So I saw a little bit of it. I was out of town, obviously, so it wasn't as like you had full I forget what they called it, but you were able to see it fully up here in Cleveland. I was able to see it partially, but I did see it. It got all dark and everything, and you know, one of the things I think it made me think about that an important perspective that I don't think I hear enough people saying when it comes to things like this, is that event should show the miraculousness of creation, because it's damn near mathematically, numerically impossible for what happened to happen, and it still happened. And I think sometimes, man, you know, everybody's always talking about the sun and the moon and the stars and all of this, and people get so caught up in the creation they fall in love with the creation instead of the creator. And I think it was just seeing that was just another reminder to me of God's brilliance of how vast the universe actually is and how big it is, especially like when you're learning about how many miles, like the distance from the Sun to the moon and all those different things, how far away they actually are, and to be far away enough to not like for the sun to be far away enough to not burn everything up, but still be close enough to be able to give us sunlight, you know what I mean. It's just and then you know, with the moon and then and how the like it's miraculous the way. It's just amazing to me that people would think that all of these things just just happen by chance, that all of these are just happy coincidences, you know. I think that people are really missing the boat and they're really missing the value of what they saw when they focus solely on the creation and missed the fact that there was a creator of that creation. To me, it was just it just showed the marvelousness and the brilliance and the creativity of God, of the creator of the universe to have something like that happen that you know, I've seen meteorologists say it's almost it's almost mathematically and numerically impossible for an eclipse to happen. It has to like the sun and the moon has to hit at the exact right spot at the exact right time for this thing to happen. And it's it's miraculous, you know what I mean. I saw it was It was so sad. It was one of these astrologer influencers, if you want to call them that, that's what they call themselves, Like who saw the eclipse and saw it was and they had got they had went down the road of like all these crazy conspiracy theories and all of that, and they were like, you know, this is the apocalypse, this is the end. And and they you know, you could tell they were in the like spiritualism and they cult and all that, and they ended up killing a family like it was a murder suicide door again yeah, yeah, on the highway and you killed a man and you killed herself and all of this, and it's like, man, not only is that tragic, but it's it's a it's a warning. I think who always make sure that we have balance in the perspective. The creation is beautiful. The creation is beautiful. I have you ever been outside at night and a time like where it's a clear sky and you can see all the stars and stuff. It's beautiful. It's beautiful when it's high. Oh, it's absolutely beautiful. It is. It is magnificent, you know what I mean. Like, it's absolutely beautiful when you see a friend of mine was an airplane today and they took a picture of them being on the other side of the clouds, like above the clouds, Like it's beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Like this earth, this creation is amazing mm hmm. But I also think we have to make sure that we keep things in perspective. When I see that beauty and when I see that logistic nature, I think about the marvelous, like how marvelous and how brilliant and how creative the creator is because it's in pot like people act like believing that these things were created is some out there theory, when it's like, no, it's the out there theory is believing that all of this stuff just happens by accident, Like that's that's absurd, the thing that all of these sorts of things just happens. So when I look at when I see things like the eclipse and and just the earth in general, just the natural, just nature, natural earth in general, it's just to me, it's just a reminder of God's brilliance. That's what I see. So on that note, we are going to go to Dante's Hot Tees coming up next here on the Outlaws. Welcome Back, Welcome Back. Make sure you subscribe to the show that for podcasts, Spotify, heh Heart or wherever you get your podcast and even listen to the show and Apple, make sure you leave us a five star review and the comment is very important for the algorithm and for those of you who've already done so, thank you, oh so very much. And now was the time to show that we like to call Dante's hot takes telling the truth. Whether you like it or not, it's Dante's hot takes on the YELP Lawns radio show. Well O J. Simpson not OJ to Juice Man, as I saw somebody on Twitter say the real OJ O J. Simpson passed away at seventy six from cancer. That I'll just be honest, I didn't know that he had I saw him on Cavin Mace podcast and I remember him saying it, or I see the videos now of him saying it back in February around the time of the Super Bowl. But no, OJ looked pretty good, he looked healthy, and I didn't. It didn't dawn on me like, oh wow, OJ was sick this you know, for a while he was battling cancer and it took him at seventy six. I didn't. I didn't recall that that he had it or anything like that. So that was it was kind of a shock. And then, of course, as always anytime OJ comes up, people talk about football and Ojay's legacy and the sport of football is almost unassailable. I always contend that if OJ played for a more iconic franchise, and this is no disrespect to the Buffalo Bills, it's a great franchise, a great city for football. But if he played for let's say, the Dallas Cowboys or the Pittsburgh Steelers, or you know, the Green Bay Packers, or you know, or the Raiders or somebody, or a team the Giants, a team like that, there would be conversations about oj being maybe the greatest football player of all time. I mean, his legacy on a football field is one of the most unassailable legacies for a running back ever. And then there's that other thing, the Trial of the Century, the murder of Ronald Goleman and Nicoles Brown Simpson. And of course oj was acquitted due to a masterful job by his legal team led by Johnny Cochrane, and by the prosecution dropping the ball at every turn. What really really stuck out to me though yesterday, and it always sticks out whenever OJ is in the headlines, is about what doesn't acquittal Act mean? What does it mean to actually be acquitted of a crime in this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof is on the prosecutor who brings the charges against the defendant. They have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you did what you have been accused of. We have a legal system that's supposed to work that way for a reason, and those reasons bore out and came to fruition in the OJ Simpson trial. So what I would say, and this has been getting people in hot water, and people have been getting pushed back because there is a large segment of the population that still believe OJ did the crimes. There is some set that believe he didn't. Obviously this was very controversial along the lines of race. But what I will say, and this is wild because I am agreeing with somebody who we've talked about on the show before, Mark Lamont Hill. I'm agreeing with him in that whether OJ committed this crime or not, he his acquittal was necessary. If if we believe in the legal system, if the legal system is supposed to work as it was designed, O. J. Simpson's acquittal was necessary. Why because the state of the lapd Mark Furman, who lied and then had to plead the fifth, so that he didn't purge it himself, planted evidence as the lead detective, and wasn't a vowed racist. That in and of itself is cause to create reasonable doubt. You cannot say otherwise. And then with the prosecution dropping the ball every you know, every at pretty much every turn, OJ's acquittal was necessary. And I know that's controversial. I know people don't want to hear that, because if you are convinced that OJ committed these heeneous crimes, then you know you think he should he got away from it. He got away with it. If you think that O. J. Simpson was an innocent man and he was framed, then you're happy with the result. What I would say is the acquittal was necessary based on what the legal system means in terms of what the legal system is supposed to stand for and what the burden of proof has to be. There is reasonable doubt there. The second point, and a very crucial point, o J I think became a symbol for Black America, even though OJ distanced himself from Black America. That's a very complex conversation, but the one thing that I want to tell people who are not a part of Black America don't understand why this is such a controversial topic or why it matters so much to black people, because for years, and I mean for years, black people have been screaming about the justice system being impartial or not actually being impartial as it should be, about people being framed for crimes, about how racist cops have put people away, how the system has not been blind, it has saw color, and how racism has bled over into the justice. For years, We've been doing saying this, and then in the biggest trial really in American history, we saw it. We saw a man walk because the lead detective lie planted evidence and wasn't avowed racist. That's why. On top of the fact that the LAPD and the La County Sheriff had gangs in their police force, and we were just on the heels of the Rodney King beating, so it was necessary. It was a bad time for the country, but the nineties in general were a wild time, and this was maybe the height of it. I think the only thing in that time span, I would say, from like team maybe let's say nineteen eighty eight to like two thousand and one, the only thing probably bigger, and I mean we're talking the AIDS, HIV pandemic, we're talking or epidemic. We're you know, we're talking, and Thenda's brothers, we're you know, we're talking a lot of stuff. The only thing that I think really tops OJ is nine eleven. So, I mean, what an incredible, complicated and really outrageous life. O J. Simpson lived for seventy six years. Yeah, and I mean not eleven was in two thousand and one, so that was right after that period of time, So there was there was you could argue that there was nothing bigger in the nineties than that OJ trial. And I'll make this quick because we don't have a ton of time left, but I'll argue this. I'll say this, and this was I think this was mentioned on OJ's thirty for thirty. But and whether you like this or not, it's just a statement of fact. If the Rodney King verdict doesn't happen, the O J. Verdict doesn't happen, I truly believe that. Dante will I follow you, sir, that's heavy. You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at tabri I t A E B R y E mist O'Malley. Follow me on Instagram at Real Robin O'Malley and Facebook at Robin O'Malley and you can follow me at d to King Ben Harry where that's d T H K I N G P I N. We are out of here. We'll see you next, fintle. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network where real talk lifts. Visit us online at FCB podcasts dot com, m
