Ep. 372 - Talking the hypocrisy of school choice opponents, the state of current music and culture, white progressive paternalism and more
The Outlaws Radio ShowSeptember 11, 202301:46:1597.05 MB

Ep. 372 - Talking the hypocrisy of school choice opponents, the state of current music and culture, white progressive paternalism and more

On today's episode of The Outlaws the team tackles the current state of music and culture in America. Is the content too explicit? Have things finally crossed a line? Also the team exposes the hypocrisy of a Chicago teacher's union official who attacked school choice while sending her child to private school, the insult of white progressive paternalism and more.
This is the FCB podcast network. Great, this is what they drunk up boot change as top Dog. We don't listen to y'all to the Countdog. We don't listen to y'all to the Outdo make a scream out down like us sound Dog because a rockets in the crowd like a Tune into the char from the Outdoor. Tune into from the Outlaw. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Darvoda King, Benmorrow alongside Robert o'nalley and Dante Brian. Don't forget too Like us on Facebook and Facebook dot com, Slash the Outlaws Radio, follow us on x I'm still not used to that at the Outlaws Radio and on Instagram. At the Outlaws or Radio. We have a lot of things to discuss. We'll get to that in just a second. But first, miss O'Malley, how are you? You know what? It's Friday? So I am great right now because it's listen. Once we're done with the show, I'm kicking back and watching my show on Netflix. What's your show? It's called Suits. It's like a lawyer type of show. You know. I gotta watch this. Okay, So, Robert, you are not a third person to mention this show. Okay, I've never seen it, but this is the third time in the last week that somebody has said you gotta watch suits. So I'll put the list you ever watch, ever watch the Bernie Max show? Dante? Yes, do you remember Bernie Max's agent? Yes, yes, he's he's a lawyer in suits, so you really yeah, yeah, I don't know that. So it's kind of like a drama. I'm gonna be honest with you, Dante. So once you start watching it, you will realize, like, so, the the redhead in this suit, she is the receptionist type of thing for like one of the main lawyers, one of the main characters in the show, and she's basically a me. And how long are the episode? Is? Rather, they've been pretty decent. I don't even honestly, I can't even tell you. I just be watching them and the next thing you know, combe yeah, I get it. I I have literally gone through watching that show and next thing you know, it's like the sun is coming up and I'm like, God, that let me take my sleep. Dante asks, what is it a drum? It's kind of like a dramay, isn't it Like it's it's a drama comedy. Yeah yeah, And I mean it's like romance, drama comedy all in one. Yeah. M what's up brother? How you doing? Man? Well, you know what that you know it's that time for me, so and give you a quick speech. I just gotta tell everybody I love you all. I love my friends and family. But it's football season. So as we do every year on this show, if it is an emergency, please call nine one one. If it is if someone is dying or dead, please call the Lord because we do believe in the power of healing and we believe in Jesus. And then call nine one one. But don't call me. If you need me for anything, please please please vet it and make sure it's serious and make sure I can help, because if I can't, then I'm gonna tell you to call who you need to call. Because it is football season, and so that means on Saturday, I am spending time with my college football family, and then on Sundays, I'm spending time with my NFL family. Okay, And I appreciate and love all of you, right, And so if you did need me, you have me. From February after the Super Bowl, all the way up until September. That's a long time to blow up your phone. If you want to hang out, you want to kick it. If you wanted to call me and say what's up? I could have did it there, but now I am too busy. So I will see all of you next February. Robin say so I said so what he's saying basically Saturday and Sunday, just to be a bugaboo blow his phone up, right? I mean you can, but I'll be back to you on Monday, and I don't like I'll talk to nobody. It'll be listen, It'll be Monday morning, prompt. Okay, it'll be Monday at eight thirty when I'm on my way to work. But it ain't gonna be listen Sunday afternoon or like, let's say tomorrow, right, Ohio State play at noon, So Ohio's they play at noon. Then it's some more games and that big Texas Alabama game. Right. If you hit me up and say, yo, you want to go to dinner, I'm gonna be like, hm, hmm, what what? How important? What do you need to tell me that's so important that you would take me away from is Alabama? Texas to get. Please let it be important because our friendship is on the line here, all right, all right, So I got three football questions and I want you to answer them rapid fire, and then we're gonna get to what we're talking about. I would right this lightning round, brother, lightning ground. First of all, your thoughts on on the Detroit upset. That was big? That was big. Kansas City, Uh, Kansas City look look kind of spotty without some of the best players, But yeah, that was big for Detroit. They're trying to prove I guess that they're not the same old lines, and I I kind of believe they're not. But the Packers still win that division. Second question, your thoughts on the Colorado upset and Coach Prime. Shout out to coach Prime. If I if I could root for another college program, I will be rooting for them. But I cannot because I bleed Scarlett and Gray, and I got the student loans to prove it from the Ohio State University as well. But I'm all for coach Prime. I want him to be successful and I want him to keep walking his walking, talking his talk. I want that for Coach Prime. I need. I'm We're rooting for him tomorrow too. That's gonna be on the TV tomorrow, I know, by the way walk him against Nebraska. Yeah, I will be checking that out. Three. How much faith you've got in your Steelers this year? A lot? I actually think that the Steeler is gonna be really good. But the problem for us, just like the problem for the Browns, is we are in one hell of a division. So every team in this division is really dog on good. So like the team that finishes in last place could win the NFC in my opinion, well maybe not win the NFC, but it could it could get to the NFC Championship Game. If the Steelers were in the NFC, I would think, oh, we could probably get to the super Bowl. But because we're in the AFC North. In the AFC in general, I can I honestly believe that there are nine really really good teams in the FC. Nine only seven are gonna make the playoffs. So well, and I expect the Browns are going to be very good. They will be We already know what the Bengals are. They will be good too. I can't imagine that the Ravens won't be good. I think the Ravens are going to be pretty good too. Uh, And it's I mean, the problem, Like I said, the problem is our division is going to be a blood bath off. There are no week week opponents in this division. And if nobody gets hurt. I mean, you believe, I do. I do. I believe in the strikes he's taken real Yeah, I think I think he's. I think he's I don't know what his ceiling is, but I'm starting to believe it's higher than I initially thought it was, if that makes sense, right, I had I thought that he would be solid to pretty good. I actually now think he can be really good. The wild card in the whole league, though, is right here in our city to Cleveland Browns. That's the wild card in the Holy because no there is the Browns have a top six roster in the whole in NFL, they got top six roster. Holy it is without question, one of the best rosters and the and the most upgraded roster. Right, everybody knows the improvements they made on on the defensive line. Right, they got a really really good team. And I know so many people want Deshaun Watson to fail. I know for a lot of different reasons. I know you want Watson to fail. He ain't gonna fail. He was looking he failed, No, he was. He was really dog on good. I don't want to I don't. I don't want to jump as a Browns fan. I don't want to jump jump ahead of myself. But he kind of was. He was looking a little bit like him. He was him, and I would say, give it time. I would tell you by November that guy is. You're gonna see that guy again, which means all bets are off because for my money, before he ran into his problems that were self induced. Not saying that he committed any crimes because we don't do that, but just saying that whatever happened was of his own doing. Right before that happened, for my money, it was Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady and then him. Yeah, so I mean, listen his soul. If if that guy is still there, he's that you can all bets are off for how good the Browns. All bets are off starting. And I still think it'll take time because you don't. The NFL is just hard, right, Don't just jump back into it and be like, oh I'm back to be an elite. No, it don't work like that, So give him time. I think you'll see him. Bill. I think you got a real good shot to win this Sunday, real good shot to win this Sunday. As played the Bengals tough, Burrow has been hurt, hasn't played a snap in the preseason. You can get them, but they didn't do you any favors to start the season, right. You play Cincinnati first and then you come to Pittsburgh on Monday on Monday nights. So that's a you know, we're gonna learn a lot, but but really, yeah, yeah, because if it really you need to trade water, just trade it water. Go three and three, go four and two in the first six games, four and three after seven, if you're right there and Watson hits his stride, you can win the AFC. Like I really, I really, because I don't think a lot of people remember. Either they don't remember or they want him to be so bad. And that's that's your right, right. If you're like I think that guy did something wrong, I don't like him, and I want him to fail, that's you're right, but don't let that cloud your your your memory. That's like how good on the football field he was never gonna let nobody take you. Don't care what you do like good, if your skills and your skills, he'll Dante will acknowledge. If you're a terrible person facts, but if you're good, you're good exactly if you can play. Because I always tall, and I'll close with this when it comes to sports, I am not a moralist, and none of these guys having dinner with me and my family. I don't need to meet any of these guys. I don't care to meet any of these guys. I don't even go to football games. I prefer to watch. I got a multi TV setup. I prefer to watch at home. So I don't never need to interact with with any of these guys. We'd love to interview them, though, but we can't deny if you if you're a great player in whatever, or you're a great musician or a great artist. I mean, the talent is the talent. So you know what my mom told me one time, She was like, God never removes the gifts that he gave you. Right, let that sink in for a second. The Bible don't say that that Satan can't sing no more. Yeah, think about it. I mean, we know what he is. The Bible said, go God gifts that were in him as a worship leader and a song this and a singer and a musician. Bible don't say that that got taken away, right, well, because the Bible said God gives gifts without her without repentance. Right. But we bought had church. We can always take it there a little bit, Robin said. Last last time we were together, Robin said, I was preaching, you know, so once in a while, you know. Uh, But speaking of the last time that we were together, this is unfortunate, to say the least, and that is a understatement of the year. The last time we were together. He had to do this with Robin because of the loss of Robin's friend. And now Dante has lost one of his friends. So, brother, I wanted to give you a couple of minutes, just like we did with Robin, to give a dedication in the shout out to the homie that she lost. Oh yeah, so saw it on the Cleveland rememberance page. Man, Uh, my homie Nord, he was murdered in Stafford Park up in Maple Heights. I guess we went to school together. He was always cool and so then you know, after high school. He was older than me, and so then after high school, you see people out, you remember him, you talked for him, and you keep it pushing, right, So that was really the extent of our relationship. It was just unfortunately murdered him his pregnant wife and of course they're they're unborn child, allegedly by the wife's brother. And so that was just the word, you know, not not the news that I wanted to see on a random weeknight, you know, just scrolling on on on I G and then you see like, oh no, what what what happened? Man? So just want to send love and prayers to their family, to anybody that loved him, anybody that's affected by this on a deeper level that like knew them personally. His wife's name was Mercedes, his name was Trey. I just I mean, that's just heartbreaking, especially when you see you know, people doing it the right way, quote unquote. Right, they got married, it was pregnant, they were you know, they were looking forward to bringing in their first child together, right that. I mean, that's beautiful, right, all for it to be snatched away by something over something which I don't know what the issue was, but I know that it wasn't worth three lives being lost, right, So that's just something that you know that I stick with us, and something that I know, even if you didn't know them right or just knew them or just knew you know, him casually like I did, it's something that you can feel for because, like, man, and then you look at the pictures, it's like, man, they look they you know, it was a happy couple, right, I mean, this is what we talk about young black love baby on the way gone. So just really you know, prayers to their family, prayers to their loved ones. You know, I just hope everything you know, that people holding each other close as they try to get through this, because that's really, you know, not something that you get through easily. Yeah, man. And unfortunately, according you know, to some of the reports, so this is still allegedly you know, the shooting might have taken place at like a church gathering, a church or something Jesus. Man. Like, that's stuff you realize, man, Like a lot of the petty stuff, man, Like, no matter how serious the issue was, it wasn't serious enough to snatch three lives. There are only a handful of things in the world that are serious. Enough to take another person. Yep, that list isn't that long. No, not at all, you know, not at all. There's only a handful of legitimate reasons to take to take a person's life. So regardless of what it was, nine times out of ten, if you're a betting person, nine times out of ten it wasn't serious enough to do that. And and I don't want to get on a tangent, but I'll close with this, how can nobody fight no more? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, like it's now there, and you know, I'm not saying it to sound like a neand the thought we need to go out and fight, but it's like, look, there are times where they're a conflict between there are conflicts between man that gets to a certain point that have to be dealt with. But if you take the option of fighting and living to see another day off the table, it automatically goes to guns. Yeah, yeah, no, nobody wants to fight anymore. I'm personally never bringing a I'm personally never bringing my fists or a knife to a fight because I know everybody else got a gun exactly exactly exactly, So it's like my you know, I was joking with my mom and other dance like, man, my fighting day is over. I had plenty of squabbles back in the day, wining something, lose something. But I ain't bringing my fist to no gun fight because I already know what because ain't nobody fighting no more dope, no chance. And then you know the thing that I you know, the thing that really bothers me about so much violence in the community, man, is like it's only beneficial in a certain small environment because once you grow up, violence really isn't the answer right now in certain circumstances, especially when it's growing up, you growing up in your neighborhood. You know you, you know you, you in school, right, you can't be no punk, right, that stuff matters then, right you fourteen fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year old boys thirteen even you can't be no punk because just gonna continue to pick on you exactly, or sometimes it's like, you know, y'all trying to fill it out, y'all going through puberty, boys gonna be boyed. I'm cool with that, but at a certain age, like violence isn't the answer. You can't take violence into the workplace. You'll be unemployed. You can't take you can't take violence on no job interview and ask why somebody stepped up. So this lets you know when people talk about nature versus nurture, even people who don't have a lot of home training, even people who who come from the worst of environments, understand that it's a time and place because you wouldn't do that in court, You wouldn't do that job interview. You wouldn't do that in corporate America. So you will only do it in this six by twelve block radius known as the ghetto or known as you know, an urban neighborhood. You'd only do it there, right, because you wouldn't take that up to you know, you wouldn't take that up up the road to strong you know, to the suburban neighborhoods and act like that in a giant You wouldn't do that. So you understand that this like violence is only contained in certain places because in truth, it is not beneficial. It doesn't benefit anything. It doesn't And that's the one thing that I you know, that I've grown to realize where it's like, you know, when I was growing up, it's like nothing. You know, sometimes you just gotta go outside of handling, and I agree, right, especially you know sometimes with men maybe that's better. But it's like, you wouldn't do that if you was at work, if you're your co worker disagreed on a work assignment, you wouldn't be like, hey, Richard, let's just go outside and put our hands up and see who will whoever wins, get to decide where we go with this problem, like you wouldn't. They would look everybody at the table would look at you like you're crazy, right, Like are you serious? Did you just spread call human resources and you'd be out of a job. But you know in your six by twelve neighborhood, you're ready to kill your brother or your sister exactly. It's it's a shame, man, it's a shame. So rest in peace to him and that family. So unfortunately that we have to do this again so soon after one another. But it's just crazy out here, man. Just people need to pray more and have more of a value for life, like I think people people have lost value for life. Yea. So all right, so we're gonna take a break and then when we come back, we're gonna talk about what we were originally going to talk about. In this first segment, So stay tune. You're listening to the olives. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me Kira Davis on Just Listen to Yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas, and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kia Davis and FCB Radio podcast on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. Real talk, real conversations. We got the heat. This is the Outlaws Radio show. Welcome back, Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaw. So I want to address a social media controversy that happened. I don't know how I always find myself in these things, but it wasn't my fault and most of the people who commented actually were on my side on this. So, for those of you who listened to last episode, which was our interview with Cleveland Councilman Chris Harsh, you heard about the participatory budgeting scam, that's on the November ballot here in Cleveland, and it's also in other cities across the country. It's been tried and most of the time it fails. And just for people who don't know. Participatory budgeting is the idea that people can get to vote on certain things in the budget. And the reason why I call it a scam is because it is promoted as something that will raise the voter turnout, but typically only three percent end up voting. That's why instead of calling it the people's budget, Councilman Harst calls it the privileged people's budget, because what ends up happening is that poor people and people working class people, people who who have to work every day don't have time to go to these meetings and vote on what garden is going to get two million dollars or whatever. And by the way, these people want fourteen million dollars a year out of the city budget, which is going to blow a hole in the budget. That's why every city, every councilman is against it. The council president is against it, even Mayor Justin bib with his progressive ass even he is against it, and all the unions are against it. There's nobody who's really supporting this thing except for hardcore progressives and literal communists. There are actual communists, we're involved in this campaign. Oh and by the way, they will allows there will be a set of votes, a number of votes on certain issues, certain projects that they'll get to use this fourteen million dollars a year on. And people can vote as young as thirteen years old. The Ohio Board of Elections isn't even set up to do that because thirteen year olds typically can't vote. So even in a situation like this, if this garbage were to best, there wouldn't be These wouldn't be sanctioned votes by the state. They would have to be counting these votes themselves, which would allow it to be the most corrupt process in the world. And on top of that, if you if you do this, because it's not a sanctioned vote, it wouldn't be sanctioned by the state of Ohio. It most legal people say that it would not be bound by bribery laws. So Dante could go to the people who are voting and say, hey, I will give each of y'all a hundred dollars a piece if y'all vote to give me two million dollars out of this budget for whatever it is I'm trying to do, and that would be perfectly legal. So, in other words, if you didn't listen to the interview last week, first of all, you should probably listen to the interview. Second of all, just to wrap things up, it would be a complete and utter disaster. Now, having said that, the person who runs the campaign for this crap is someone by the name of Molly Martin. She follows me on social media the PB campaign they call it PEB, you know, they call it the People's Budget, which is garbage. But they follow me as well, which is interesting. But she made a tweet one night or X, I don't even know what you call it, but in this she said, when this campaign is over, I want a bunch of white anti racist organizers in Cleveland to join my new rollerblading club. It'll be called organizing to change Racial capitalism. Doesn't mean black people have to trust you. We gonna be all right? What the hell does that mean? So I made a tweet We're an X that went viral in response, and my response was, h a lot to unpack here. You're going to gather a bunch of white folks to organize to help us poor old negroes because we just can't figure it out on our own. And even though you're fighting against racial capitalism, whatever the hell that is, that doesn't mean we have to trust you. So in your benevolence and understanding, this segregated group of white folks are going to project what they want onto black folks for our own good, even if we don't want it. Got it. The white savior complex is no joke. You're fighting to replace white supremacy with white paternalism, which is just another form of white supremacy. The dismissiveness of our agency, as if we're just a bunch of invalids, is why we don't trust you in the first place. So that tweet took off tens of thousands of youths. It's at nearly sixty thousand as we speak, a lot of retweets, a lot of comments, and they were almost uniformly negative against what Molly said. It was about ninety ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven percent negative until this morning. There were a couple of people who tried it. They tried in the words of Robin, they tried it and they failed. Miserably. There was one guy who said, this isn't real. She didn't really say this. You don't even have the time stamp on this. I said, okay, I made another post where I told this food. I cropped the time stamp out for aesthetic purposes because it looks better. But do you really think I don't have it? And I made a post with the time stamp on it. That person then deleted their comment. There was another individual who tried that same route, and then he went through the tr through the trouble of making a fake tweet in my name using some service where you can make a fake tweet. And the tweet that he made of me was me allegedly saying peb Cleveland is full of dirty commies who need to face the wall. So to break that down, ladies and gentlemen, What he was saying in this tweet, what he wanted people to believe, is that I said, all of the people who support this Charter amendment proposed Charter amendment, should be lined up against the wall and shot. Now, I ask you could saying something like that caused me problems in the public eye. Yeah, I probably could, could probably even cause me some legal issues. As well, that's a threat. So I had to address that immediately to make it be clear that I did not say this. And what I noticed is that the fo didn't even line up the way that my user name is spelt on Twitter on X correctly. So if you go to my account, you see it's my user name is D the Kingpin. The D is capitalized, the T is capitalized, and the K is capitalized. Everything else is not capitalized. So this was my response to him. You can't respond to legitimate criticism because you have no response, so you have to make up a fake tweet. By the way, the P and D the Kingpin isn't capitalized anywhere on this app, dummy. His response was, oh, well, this is a joke. If you click on this little this little thing right here at the corner of the page, you'll see it's fake, something that nobody notices, nobody sees, and people will run with Oh and it didn't have my blue check either. That was another way that you saw that it was fake. So he was trying to pass this saw and then when he got caught, he tried to say it was a joke. Well, if it was a joke, why did you delete your entire account. Not only did he remove what he said, he deleted his entire account. It's gone. If you go to my page right now, you will see my response and below it because I quote tweet because you know I like receipts, I quote tweeted the person, and you will see in that box where that tweet was, it says this post was made by an account that no longer exists. So do not tell me that you were joking. You wanted people to really believe that I said, I thought essentially that all of y'all should be shot. That's what you wanted, and it didn't work because I exposed your ass. Only after that, about a half an hour after that, my apologized. Now let's read what she said. I am going to it right now. She said, Hey, David Kingpin, we don't agree on much, but I agree with you that this was a bad tweet. I was trying to mock white liberals rollerblading and say that white people need to earn trust from black people, not take it for granted. I blew it and know it. First of all, that makes no sense at all, doesn't compute, doesn't match with what she said. However, because she apologized. I told her, I respected that because I'm not a bully. You say you don't want no more, I'm not gonna keep punching you in the face unless you do something else. So I said, Okay, I respect that. I have to acknowledge that you apologize, that you owned it. You owned what you said. Doesn't really explain why you said what you said, but I'll acknowledge that you apologize. I ain't no bully. But then the interesting thing is, when you think about it, Cleveland is like forty five ish percent black. The largest population in the city is black. And these people, these very same black people, you are asking to vote for this garbage that you are pushing in their name to have more participation, for more participation in the process, more direct democracy, which anybody who's ever read a book knows that that doesn't work. But this is how you think. You think we're just a bunch of knuckle dragon Neanderthals, Like this is somebody gotta tell me, like, do you really feel this way? Is this really how you think? I want to know Dante your thoughts? Yeah, man, it's a it's interesting. I was reading along as you was, you know, going, and I, yeah, I respected for saying that. You know, she she she dropped the ball because she did, right, it's a bad tweet. She owned it. Cool, don't do it again. That's that's my personal take on it. I you know, the white liberal has always been fascinating to me though, really is I'll tell you the white conservative and the white liberal are very fascinating to me just in the way that they view black people because, on the one hand, one of the most profound things that I think a white person has said in the twentieth century I'm sorry, in the twenty first century was when George Bush made that speech and you know, regarding no Child Left Behind, And to me it's radical when he talked about the low expectations, expectations, the soft biggestory of low expectations, because that was radical to me. Yeah, Like looking back when I was a little kid then, so I had not you know, I ain't know anything. I just knew, you know, Bush was president with nine to eleven happened, right, I was. I was in first grade. But looking back on it, it's like, wow, that's one of the most radical things that any any white person is saying in the twenty first century. In my opinion, because I'm like, man, if a party got on board with that, if if if a group got on board with that, you might be able to run with something there because I said, you know, like I said, the white liberal can be so fascinated in that you claim to have such a bleeding heart and want to do so much to help, but you really like it's really disguised, only disguising your your absolute contempt for me and my people, which is crazy. It's like, no, we want to help you so much because we know you can't do nothing for yourself, you know what I mean. It's just it's just incredible. And then you know, we know because we talk about this all time, you know, we know the you know, and you know, with with a lot of white conservatives, it's just like who cares, right, because it's like we don't need to we don't need to spend money in their communities, we don't need to get their votes. You know. It's just like we don't need to talk to them. It's like, wow, it's just really fascinating. The to me, the how you know, we talk about political parties, right, some people would say two sides, same same coin, two wings, same bird, But but in reality, it's like, wow, there's a lot of racism here, and it's just expressed in different ways. Right. I've seen I've seen uh situations on Twitter where you know, you'll have a tragic situation and a community, right and it's a large municipality. And then you'll see like, uh, you know a conservative or you know somebody who says they're a conservative. They come in and say, well, you get the you get the government you voted for all, that's what you get. Shouldn't voted for them. It's like, wow, you you have absolutely no no compassion for this child who now doesn't have a father because he was gunned down, or you don't have any compassion for this situation like those negrolds voted for Democrats and that's what they get. Wow, that's interesting. But then you look at at at a white liberal and it's like, wow, you you really think I can't even spell my own name? Right? We all seen that video where you know, a bunch of white liberals in New York where like black people can't get ID, so we can't, you know, we need to make voter ID. You know. It's just like what in the world who told you this. So it's just like how it's just really interesting how really big, extry and racist can express itself just different ways, in different ways your ideology. Yeah, it just manifests itself in different ways. But you know the thing that interested that that is the most interesting to me about white liberals. And I don't even like she's a communist, so so that's even like I don't even know you can call her a liberal like they are straight up communists, which is dangerous, is ill, but it's like leftists. I'll put like this, white leftists is very interesting to me because the one thing that you can say about white conservatives and not all Obviously we're not putting everybody in the same box. I want to make that clear, because there are some really good white conservatives who who do get it, oh absolutely, and white liberals that get it too. There are some good white absolutely right and everybody. If the shoe does not fit you, keep it pushing right. You don't have to wear exactly, internalize the word white, don't internalize the word black. Right. If if the character, if the character traits don't describe you, then it ain't about you exactly. But you know, the interesting thing the difference between racist white conservatives and racist white liberals is racist white conservatives don't even pretend to like us right right. If you're a racist on the right, you make it very clear how you feel about right right. But the to me, the race, the racist white liberal is more maddening to me because if you're just flat out I don't like you in words. I know how to take you right, I know how this exchange is going to go. But when you are like, oh, I love you so much, come here, you little darky, I can do I can do this thing for you because I know, I know you can't read and write. I know things have just been so hard for you. You don't know what an idea is. All that kind of like that drives me not yea, I personally think that's worse. That's why I always talk about to me like you hear, because these are the very people who talk about fighting white supremacy. Well, to me, white paternalism is white supremacy. It's just in another way because it believes you in charge of us. It's the same. It's the same stuff to me, definitely. It's very sick. Yeah, it's very similar. When you put it that way. Yeah, It's like that's the thing that's maddening to me because it's like one one is like, we don't mess with y'all, like, okay, I know how to take you, I know what to expect, right. The other one is like, we love y'all, but we only gonna give you so we're not gonna give you no real power, no real control. We're not gonna respect your agency, especially when you disagree with us, because culturally we disagree on on quite a bit. Like black folks and and black people and white liberals, even though they may vote for the same party, disagree on a lot of stuff, especially culturally. But no, you don't really, that's that's just because you're poor, and let's like just don't worry about that. You can have that little stuff over there in the box and we'll just we'll take care of this and we'll make sure that you get what you need. I hate that. I hate it, like it just oh that I low that, Like that's salt. It's almost like we got to change it now. Uh, you let your respond to this, Dante, and then I'll go to Robin. It's like the soft bigotry of low expectations is very is very real. But it's almost like we got to change that because it's not it's not soft bigotry. It's bigotry, like it's to me, it's just as that is just as much of a hard bigotry as somebody saying I don't like you in words. Yeah, yeah, I mean somebody basically said that they don't think that you can, that that you're capable enough because of who you are and where you come from. It's like, wow, I mean that, Yeah, that's that's just as bad. That's where and just as that, and I would prefer, I would honestly prefer to know where you stand up front. Don't pretend the worst thing is a snake in the grass, right, that's the worst thing, Like, let me know that. Paternalistic, they're they're a little negro. Oh god, I hate that. It's the absolute word. Okay, So I want to close this segment like this because I like this is out Laws is an educational program, and I like when people learn things on this show. So we are blessed to have robint O'Malley our co host, right, Nante and Robin is a very cultured Caucasian, right, she understands us. She gets black people. Robin, I want you to give some advice to other white people who maybe listening to this show, who find themselves constantly putting their feet in their mouths when it comes to black people. Can you tell some of the white folks who baby, like Dante said, if this is not you, then this does not apply to you. But for some of the white folks who may be listening, who always make a fool out themselves when they talk to black people, can you help them not be so stupid? Uh? I don't. I mean, I don't know, because for me it just comes natural. So, but I mean, I guess the first thing you should not do is immediately go to well, I have a black friend. Don't don't. Just don't say because you already look it looks bad. It looks really bad. And chances are, chances are your black friend is probably more white than me. Yeah, just be yourself, be normal. I mean usually in the black community, I think it's you're they're pretty accepting as long as you you're not ignorant in your words, choice of words. You got to use them carefully because you don't want to say things. It kind of like exactly like how the post you're talking about the way that the lady had worded everything. Like I was like so confused. I was very confused actually because what is she talking about? Because it just made absolutely zero sense to me, Like wait a minute, are you in support or are you throwing a blow? Like which way is this going here? Because it was a little yeah, so I don't know, that's like a yeah. But so just watch doing things like that. I mean, other than that, yeah, just be yourself. Don't don't try too hard. Yeah, don't try too hard. That's all. Hey, you know what, I'm glad you said that. We're going to there, we're clothes, We'll be back with tea time. But you know what, when Robin was saying that, it reminds you know what, it reminded me of. It reminded me of one of the first stories that this version of the show did, and that was the Chelsea Clinton racial rehab, right, Like the uh, what does she say, just because your skin is white doesn't mean you have to be white? Ye? Normal white people don't think like that. People over compensating for something to do exactly exactly. So, like what Robin just said, be normal, That's that's the key. That's like, I listen. Another thing I could tell you it is, chances are if you're like super duper white, I mean like super like I don't know, country or what hick I don't know, or trailer park whatever, whatever it is that you are, you got your look, boots on, or you know, whatever it is, like, chances are you're going to be more accepted just being you, like, if you're like, truthfully, you'd be more welcome into the community that way than being, you know, trying to be like, you know, that person we was talking about off air, how you know, trying to be too much bes something you're not like, you're not going to be accepted. I mean, and truthfully, that's in any way, shape or form. That's that's how it is in any any any type of group that you go around. If you try, if you you can notice when somebody's trying too hard and it's like, nah, you weird. We don't want to be around you. I don't know, you seem real snakes, you seem weird. So red flag, red flag, red flag, so we cool exactly exactly, just be. This is the advice that I have and it's exactly what Robin said. Just be normal, being a person. Whatever you are. If you're a white person from the hood, be the white person from the hood. If you're the white person from the suburbs, be the white person from the suburbs. If you're the white person, if you country, and like, like Robin just said, if you from the trailer park, whatever, whatever you are, just be who you are. Stop trying, y'all trying too hard. Some of y'all the trails. Remember that meme where they had these where they had these white folks they had chains on their neck and put chains on their arms and they was on their knees talking about I'm sorry. And the caption it was a black person that wrote, as the caption was all right, now, we ain't asked you all to do all that right right right, This is not necessary. I'm not asking you to bend down and kiss our feet. This is not like just do you know what? You know what this reminds me of this topic is Malibu's Most Wanted that movie where he said I'm be Red, I'm be red, lady, don't be right exactly. That's how we're gonna close this. This is a public service announcement from Darby O to King, Penmoral, Dante Bryan, Robin O'Malley. Don't be brad. That is the public service announcement. Nothing from this segment. That is what I want you to take today. Ladies and gentlemen, don't be b red. If you if you're gonna talk to black people, or be around black people, work with black people, advocate whatever, be normal, be yourself. Stop over conversation. Some of y'all are trying way too hard, and what that does is make us trust you even less. On that note, stay tuned. We have tea We were coming up next here on the Outlaws. This is the Outlaws Radio Show. Welcome back, Welcome back and listen to the Outlaws. And now's the time of the show that we like to call Tea Time with Row, Turn it up, contation, the latest celebrity news, and gossipation. It's Tea Time with Row on the Outlaws Radio Show. All right, So there was a lot of songs. So there's a couple things that I want to talk about. So first and foremost, there was a lot of songs that were dropped today. One was coil Ay and Busta Rhymes. The other one was Lotto and Cardi B and there was a third one. I don't know a Lotto was with that sexy red girl, and each and every one of these songs like why are they all about the woman's body parts? Like and I get it, sex cells, I get it, But what is going on? I don't understand? Like I wasn't even excited about not one of these songs, not nan one of these songs. I listened to them, I'm like, Oh. At first, I'm like, oh, that's my girl. Okay, I can get with that. I like her music, this, that, and forth. As soon as I hear all three of them today, trash, all of them trash talking about they they butt and they they they girl parts, like I mean, Lotto was licking a damn eggplant, Like I mean, when is class gonna come back? Or when it is, like you know what, why can't we kind of go back to the music kind of almost like the nineties, how they actually put effort into songs. Yeah, I mean, like I mean, Coilarey, I'll give her and Busta Rhymes the benefit of the doubt because Coilaay, you know, shout out to her where she does like to put a lot of the spotlight on Minety's music and social do remakes or covers if you may, to a lot of nineties songs, and I do like it. I liked I do like that one. And then the woman with Cardi B and Megan the Stallion. I don't like the song, but as far as the graphics and how the setting of the music video, I do like that though. But other than that, I mean highly disappointed. You know, I got into this debate, a little mini debate because I didn't let it. I didn't let it go far because I knew I wasn't talking to a person of sound mind on Instagram about the Sukiana is how you say your name and sexy read song when she was like my booty hole brown mom, Oh yeah that one. Anybody saying my bleat don't stink all that kind of stuff, And when the when Sukiana said that she wanted to how do I say this? Uh, give special attention to old ass president Joe Biden. Oh yeah, who is one hundred and thirty seven years old. He would probably let her. I mean, look, he's he's a man. I don't think any man who could still make it work wouldn't let her. I wouldn't touch up with a team football. Yes, she looks like she never mind said that they have. They had committed a bunch of time. See, I don't want anything your friends. I don't even want that, all right. So I got into this debate with someone because I'm like, yo, this is trash. I'm like, this is the worst song I've ever heard. And they were like, oh, well, they said that about our music in the nineties and we got elect electic young folse do day thing. It's popular, so people like it and all this make an excuse, it's liberating and all this stuff. She's owning her sexuality and all of this garbage, of course coming from someone who had an advanced degree, because a lot of stupid ideas come from people with advanced degrees. Here's the difference, okay, because people love to point like, when you criticize any of this music for being too sexual, people love to point out Little Kim and Foxy Brown and Trina and rappers like that. Well, there's two things that make that different than today, with three things. First of all, when Little Kim did it, it stood out because she was the first one to do it right. It was different. It ain't different, no more right. Second of all, Little Kim, Foxy Brown, and Trina can rap. They can actually rap, they actually have bars. I've heard Little Kim talk about the stuff other than sex because she could get down with the dudes as far as rapping goes. I've heard Foxy Brown do songs about things other than sex. I've heard the three female rappers that people point at two at the most to make excuses for this garbage today, I've heard Little Kim, Foxy Brown, and Trina actually rap. A lot of these female rappers can't even rap. You know what I'm saying. Period. I'll even to me, I don't even put I even put Cardi B in a different category because I actually think she can rap. Cardi B can actually rap, Megan the Stallion can actually rap, and Nicki Minaj and Nicki Minaj can actually all those those three in protect they can Cardi B, Megan the Stallion, and Nicki Minaj can actually rap. So you can't just put all of this in the same box. And here number three, the most important part to me, all female rappers at the time didn't sound the same. The issue is not that you have a sexy red or a Sukiana. The issue is that you have nothing but sexy reds and Sukianas. As far as in the mainstream, we know that there are some female rappers that people don't know about who are absolutely amazing, But as far as the mainstream goes, that's the problem. The problem is that there is no balance, there's no diversity. If you look, I'm gonna give y'all a perfect example to prove my point. Go back and look at Little Kim's video for the Not Tonight remix and look at who was on the song and who was in the video. You know who was on that song. Little Kim was on that song. Angie Martinez was on that song. De Brad was on that song. Left I was on that song rest in Peace. Missy Elliott was in that song. There were other female mcs that were that were on the video. Queen Latifa was in the video. None of those rappers that I just said sound the same. None of them. Little Kim did not sound like Angie Martinez. Angie Martinez did not sound like de Brad, de Brad did not sound like left I, left I did not sound like Missy Ellie. None of them sounded like Queen Latif that's the difference. That's the difference. Even if you look at like a Salt and Pepper, Salt and Pepper, they had sexually suggestive songs too, but that when all they talked about, and they had bars. So the problem is not that it's not all we have such a problem with liberation. We just don't want women to be as open about their sexuality as men are. That's bs. It has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with the fact that this industry has created this image that says that we won't accept female rappers who don't rap like that. It wasn't like that back in the day. You had your MC lights, right, you had your Rock Sanshanta's, you had your Little Kims, you had your Queen Latifas, you had the Lady of Rage, Lady of Rage whatnot there like that, Lady Rags roughest stuff with my Afro puffs. Lady and Rage got down as a rapper. So that's the difference. So when people try to say this this bougie liberal garbage, that, oh, the reason why, the only reason why you're upset about this music is because you don't like women owning their sexuality. It's garbage. It's garbage. In the nineties, it wasn't like that. Yes you had your Little Kims, Yes you had your Foxy Browns, but you had all the other female rappers that I just said, and all of them sound differently, and even Little Kim and Foxy Brown didn't just talk about sex all the time. Dante. Okay, So for starters robbing. You mentioned Lotto got a little video out. Make sure you send that to me just so that I can reference, because I like Lotto. She's one of my favorites, just like I like who's that other light skin girl we talked about. She's Dominican in New York. I spice, She's uh. I like to listen to them on mute. I like to watch their videos on mute because this is what I always say. I don't listen to two female rappers. I don't. They're not making no music for me. None of these women are making music for me. So I you know, I I wish that maybe the music could be a little bit more positive, But they ain't talking to me. A matter of fact, I don't think they're talking to any straight man. They are making the music or the girlies and a different group, not for me. Right, So just like jay Z. Jay Z was making music for hustlers. It wasn't necessary. You know, he was using drug dealing metaphors, but really it was for hustlings, right, That's why I wasn't. I'm not a drug dealer, but jay Z inspired me in a lot of his music because he was talking about making money. I respect that, I admire that. That's what That's why I'm a hustler out, not a drug dealer, not a gangster, but I go out and get mon too. So maybe that's how some of the young women look at it. I'm just trying to see the opposite side because I like, you know, I don't listen to that, right, you mentioned the the nigg who was it? The Megan A Stallion CARDI B I know that that's whop. I know that WAP video. I've never heard a bar on that song, but I know that. I know that video. They that's a great one. That's one of the greatest female duo videos of all time. Okay, hip hop, women's hip hop need to do that more. They need to do that more. Okay, that was fantastic and shame on anybody that would try to shoot Megan a stallion. Shame on you go to you go to jail. But anyway, in all seriousness, they're just making the music for whoever they're listening to, and these young girls like it. They disturbing part they're selling out. Well I don't know if they're selling out, because that's different, right, selling out actual shows and selling out arenas is different than being able to get streams, So that's different. But they're getting streams. These young girls are listening to it. So you know what I say, you gotta target audience. Go for it because most of them women, most of the girls that's listening to that, they're too young to be my wife anyway, and I don't have daughters yet. So by all, like go forward it, Jez, you know because like the videos, I just think about it, like the videos are great, but in all seriousness, I just think about it like this, when Jay Z talking about what he was talking about, did that is that inspired? Did that inspire you to make to be a drug dealer or to go, like go find you a legal hustle and make money, right, you made you found a legal hustle and made money with this with this the media business. That's what you did. I'm sure that somebody would take a listen to some of the rappers that I grew up to that I was like, this is that dude? And then like this guy is talking about some horrible stuff. Jay Z was talking about selling drug Push Your Teeth one of my favorite rappers. This dude does everything accept sale drugs in his song. The only thing he don't do to anybody that listened to him is off from an eight ball. He do everything else. And depending on where you buy his music, you might be able to get some cocaine with it, because that's how that's that's what that brother talk about. But I don't look at it like that. I view it more so as but you also got to keep in mind that you are a reasoned, well developed person with a fully functioning brain and have the ability to use critical thinking. That is not that that ain't everybody that's you know, now, you know, I'll if I had a daughter, she wouldn't be listening to this. Okay, well here's the well, here's what you know. But they got somebody listening to it and somebody here's the thing though, But here's the thing, and this was the lady that I got into the debate with kind of tried to make a similar argument, but my argument, my counter argument was you can find anybody. You can find anybody can find an audience for garbage like that doesn't mean that there's redeeming value to it. Because you have an audience, it's not hard. As a matter of fact, we were just talking off air. I'm not gonna say exactly what it was, but we were I was joking right about something that if I had no scruples and no moral something I could do on social media that would make me a lot of money right through. Now. The one thing that I hate is when they try to pass off this stuff as like black culture. That's what they're doing. The one thing I hate because no, no, no, no, because my grandma don't get down to this. Okay yo, grandma, Yo, Mom, don't get down to this. Okay yo. Mama ain't listening, no sexy red and my mama ain't listen no dogs at okay. My mother. My mother heard like it would be appalled by that. Listen listen. It was I was in the studio and it was when I sent y'all the clip, and you know my mother was was was in the office with me, and of course the dreaded question when your mother just happens to walk by and she's just all innocent, right, it's like, oh, what's that. It's like, oh, okay, ma, this is what this is. And she was like, oh my god, she was appalled. Yo, she had pearls on. You would have clutched it like so this So that's the problem. Like the issue. The issue is not like because you can make whatever you want, and like I said, even like some of the artists that we listened to growing up, they made suggestive content content too, right. The issue to me is there's no balance and that there is now this presentation of that's what it is and that is and that that is black culture, that that is liberation, that that is all the Like it was like this. The person I was in the debatement was like, oh you you holding up the standards that are colonizers and tucking on the dumb stuff. It's like, no, I just don't think that. It's I'm not a fan of somebody talking about the color they booty hole. Yeah, I means that means I'm holding up That means I'm I'm defending the colonizers. Are you kidding me. Yeah, yeah, Now I feel like that about some of these male rappers. Who's like, all you talk about is Kim, that's it all all you got his guns. That's another problem. That's another problem. And that's and and and and women some women love, not all women with some women love to be like, oh well what about the men. No, that's a problem too, true, right, I was actually gonna say that because truthfully, I don't want to I don't want to hear these men talking about they they man parts, you know what I mean? And I also, you know, another thing that I do not like, you know, as far as in the music industry is the men when they are degrading the women, you know, and they're saying doing these things to women and using them and you know, things of that sort. And these women literally set there and listen to that music and support it. They'd be singing it. And that's just being like, sis, did you not hear what he just said? Yeah? It was. It was a line that a dude did. I can't even remember the rapper and I can't even remember the line it was. It was bad. And I want to make this very clear, right, like I am not I'm not a prude when it comes to music, right, Like I'm not a prude in general, Like I'm not one of those people that's like that is wrong, that is wrong, Like that's not where I'm coming from. I grew up in the era of gangster rapp, all right, so I was a death Row fan, So I'm not That's not where I'm coming from with it. But my thing is like, are there no lines anywhere? Do we not draw the line at anything? This just anything goes And then people wonder why I saw ebro from a Hot ninety seven in New York had made a tweet like this. He said, he talks to record labels and they're signing fewer and fewer rappers and signing more and more artists who are doing like afrobeats and stuff like that, because the rappers are all talking about the same thing and eventually you're gonna burn the music out like that. And for someone who to Dante's point when he talks about like with motivating to start of my career, we're like a lot of y'all know me from where y'all know me now. But I started in hip hop, so I cared deeply about the music and cared deeply about the culture and believe that it is one up there are maybe like me and Dante we were talking off the air, maybe football, football is and maybe the only thing that has created more black millionaires than hip hop. Maybe, like that's how important it's been to our culture, to our community, especially for people who come from the hood, an opportunity for people specifically from the hood to be able to be wildly successful. I cared deeply about him. So it's not so, this isn't anti hip hop. This isn't even anti female rappers. I love a little Kim Love, Foxy Brown. You know what I'm saying. This is so it's not even that. But it's like, look, y'all can't continue to make music that all sounds the same and think the genre is going to is going to continue to survive and be strong, whether it is women talking about their booty holes or dudes only talking about killing people and and and and drugs. There's a place for that, because the thing about hip hop is I think you should show all aspects of the society. So there's a place for that. But that shouldn't be all we listened to. You know what I'm saying that's my only issue. Probably go ahead. Oh yeah, I think I pretty much said what I needed to say on that. But next absolutely so. The next one is it's always a trending topic that somehow I'm beginning to wonder if they're paying these pages to post them. So Chris shan Rock and Blue Face, as many of you know, if you you know you listen to the show, we've talked about these two quite a few times. Actually, you know where they had a relationship where they were abusive to each other and they were constantly in the news. Well, anyway, Chris shan Rock, she went ahead and went behind Blue Faces back. Mind you, they're not together. He is back with his first baby mom, whom everybody calls Stewie because she looks like Stewie and the Face. We're just gonna put that out there. Hey, I'm just saying, if I have to be either team, it's going to be team Chris Chris Rock. Chris said, Chris Rock, Well, we're gonna go there too. Uh So, anyway, so she went behind his back while he was out of town in Florida with Stewie, and she went ahead and scheduled her I can't even thank you, I can't even get my word out. So she went ahead and scheduled to have her baby, and she did not tell him about it, and she after she had the baby. While having the baby, she was on Live mind you, which is actually kind of bizarre because normally in the room, the delivery room, you cannot have cameras while they're in the process of getting the baby out. But anyway, so she turned around and she decided to name her baby after herself. So Chris Sean Junior is her son's name, and blue Face is not like that, by the way. So he's all a social media crying like a little girl, and he is threatening to take the baby away to follow for full custody. Even uh Stewie even made a post uh saying that they named baby something else and called herself step mommy. And let me just tell you, like I was telling y'all before, as a mother first and foremost, I'm so glad that you know the relationship that I have with with my kids step mom, we'll call her bonus mom. I'm glad that it's great because I wish the hell if I was in that that situation where she says something like that to me. M m hmm. Like because once you be, once you have your baby, immediately you are a lion. Then you're going to protect your cups by all means necessary. And to say something like that to a woman who just had the baby just a few days ago, you're out your damn I but that's basically I feel like I hear too much about a rapper who I only know one song of. Like this relationship, this whole situation is so toxic, so toxic, and we do have to acknowledge, even though Robin thinks that there's some questions about that, we do have to acknowledge that was it. It was his mother, right, Yeah, his mother said that they're actually cousins. I don't know what the hell is going on that him and and Chris Shawn are actually cousin. I just want to use this as a uh as a tell tale like story, a cautionary tale for men and women alike. If you're in a toxic relationship, leave that relationship. It only gets worse, it only gets worse. Get out of that, Like just well she did though, and that's the thing she actually finally did. And now she keeps telling him, well, she's like she's saying I left for the best and I you my baby will not be around you. Let's see, here's but here's the but here's the issue. Though you he got like you leave before you have the baby, you know, like, don't get don't get pregnant by a toxic man. Don't men, don't impregnate a toxic woman, because now it's gonna they're gonna have complications and fights for at least another eighteen years. M h. Because he's already I believe you said you already threatening to father full of costis right, Like, but you know what he's not. And that's the thing. And that's another thing, is like if anybody really keeps up on this, or if they don't keep up on it and they just happen to see it it's in their their news feed or whatever. He is not very good at being a father. He's not a very good parent. Like I mean, if you remember correctly, there was a story that I touched up on at one point on here where his son, whom was like between five and seven years old, and the pantry was completely bare and there were strippers in the living room and mom was right there talking about Stewie like she's the one that wanted the strippers. And that's really that's their parenting style. But that they're coming to Chris uh Chris shan talking about custody, Like, no, it is a mess. I mean that baby is definitely doomed. But I really pray, yeah, I really pray that this you know somehow. I mean it's already started to you know, shift her a little bit, but I really pray that it does do some good for her. And it's not even just like because you know a lot of people be like, oh what they got money, what they got they got money, but they ain't got money money, like they're not rich like that like that, So like you can't live like this, you can't raise no kid like this. Like this is just this is unbelievably toxic. And this is why I go back to once again, men and women, if you are in a toxic relationship, please leave that toxic relationship before a baby gets involved, because once a baby gets involved, everything becomes complicated. Dante. Yeah, they seem to be horrible for each other every time I see them. It's like chrishan don did this, blue Face did that? Ain't going back and forth about its like but these people are exhausting, Like I don't, I don't. I am just so happy that I don't know people like this in real life, and that if I did know them, I don't know that they're like this because these people are exhausting, and I don't. This is the thing that I've never understood about reality television or these you know, the fascination behind these people. Why are these why these people are literal degenerates. Why are they put on public display? Like why why do people care so much about about these people? Like? Who? What? What? What is blue Face? A rapper? Yeah? He had one hit? Who was she? Like? He's just she was just a girl. I don't even know if she starts. She started on one of the shows, you know, one of those drama fied shows. I have no idea, Like this is crazy to me, Like where does the fascination for I mean, like, by all it means these people are losers. They're losers, they just regular. I mean I hate to do this, but you go down to any neighborhood in America and fine, and I'm not talking about just black, right, are you talking black? White? Mexican Puerto Rico An people go down to any neighborhood and find two dysfunctional people with children, like why are you why? Why did they just pick y'all a lot the crowd to put on TV because they paying for it. Chances are they're paying for it, Robin, maybe right on that. She might be right on that, because because any Yeah, like if you want to get onto shows or you want, uh, you know, you want to be seen, you're gonna pay for billboards, You're gonna pay for commercials. You're gonna be paid to be posted on, said Paige, Like most of the time, chances are they paid. All right, you got anything else, Robbin? You know what? Actually I did want to tell you, so I have seen not long ago Kevin Hart. This is it's kind of sad, but at the same point it's kind of a life lesson to me and you darbouh. So Kevin Hart decided that he wanted to try to do some type of stuff. What did he do? A sprint challenge? Ye against believe, Yes, yes, uh? And I don't know if I'm saying his name right Stephen Ridley, Okay, yeah, that's yeah. He used to play for the Patriot Yeah, okay, And so he decided he wanted to try the sprint challenge, and he is, you know, up there in age were easy to forty or forty one something like that, and listen, once you hit thirty, you're sit down, okay, and listen. Because he thought he was still you know, young, and still he still had it like that he has been left to be in a wheelchair for the for the foreseeable future. Yeah, he tore both of his didn't he tell? Tear both of his acls or something like that. Yeah, yeah, so I mean he was, I think and it just listen. I mean, I don't know if it's age, if we need to take a life lesson from this or stretch before you want to try something. I'll tell you this, you know, I have been you know, for most of my life, whether it was when I was in elementary school, I played basketball and I was a I was a sinner, right, so my job and this was like nineties basketball, right, so my job was whoever was coming down to score, My job was to knock them on the ass, right like that. That was my job, right to bang down to to bang down low pauls. And then when I was in high school, I wrestled, So I've you know, lifted weights and did all this kind of stuff. Right in my thirties. There was this is probably about maybe about two, about twenty a half years ago, two and a half, three years ago, something like that. I slipped and fail on a concrete floor and hit my bat and I'm thinking I'll be all right. Like it's like two and a half years later, it ain't as bad as it was before. My back still ain't one hundred percent. Yo. This is yeah, the thirties, the thirties and forty it's real. Listen, do you remember remember the trip? Remember the trip that we did the Florida Hide messed up my ankle? Right, tell the people, telling people what happened? What did we tell her to do when she twisted her ankle? Ain't nobody asked y'all that extra care. We have to tell the We have to tell the audience the whole thing, like they have to understand you already. Listen, y'all need to go back in time and find that episode. What did we tell her when she twisted her But but I mean, how was I gonna buy? Listen? What ended up happening to you? It swelled up like a golf ball. Maybe bigger. But that's because I went driving. I was driving on it immediately, right, it was gonna like if you drove on it or just walked on it, or just say like it was, it was going to happen. Like you have to. We are at the age where you do you gotta take precautions something. You gotta listen because it is day because you know I you know how I do modeling. You know I wear high heels. Ye Now how I can't wear a lot of my high heels that I used to wear because the pressure with my ankle when I had my foot bent into the heel, it hurts my ankle. Now, yep, yep, that's so. Uh, Dan say, I don't know if you got any any uh sports injuries or what from back in the day, but if you don't enjoy the rest of your twenties, brother, he ain't too far off to the rule. Yeah, he say that, Robert, until he starts trying to raise somebody and then he just pop his age and his body hasn't caught up with how he'd be acting like he old. Yeah he does, but it's gonna get there. But watch he gonna be Dante gonna be like forty two and some twenty two year old gonna challenge him to play basketball and try to try to be like, man, you ain't got no skills, no more and all that. You're gonna talk him to the court to go get on the court, and he's gonna tear yet talk me on no court because I've been retired. I retired after in the mirrors in college. I've been retired. You ain't about to get me on no court. I get out of that now, like I only play for money and you ain't got that kind of money. That okay, okay, because man, I'm telling you man, and I feel like I still feel my my knee injury. Sometimes when I was when I was wrestling, I tore tissue in my knee and that was actually what made me quit the team because I had already had an injury before that. I had actually no, that was my first injury. I tore tissue in my knee and then I let that heel and I came back. And then after I came back, I popped the muscle in my arm. And once I popped the muscle in my arm, I was like, that was it I had. It was one day we were doing We were lifting weights and I was lifting weights and doing all that, and then I walked a few blocks to my homeboys house because we were going back to the school for a school dance that night. And at the time, this was like two thousand and one or two something like that. Pete Pablo was out and had that popular song. It was like take your shirt off, paint sweet in the air like a helicopter. Right, So I still had on my school uniform, but I had a T shirt on to me, so I'm I'm buttoning the shirt of swinging in like a helicopter, you know. All that. I woke up the next morning I couldn't move my arm. I've never been in that much pain before my entire life. Yeah, I could not move my arm, like like just spring chickens, Yeah, just trying to lift. It was like, I've never been in that much pain before in my life. After that, I was like, high school wrestling isn't for me. You know what. Actually, when I had did that Cavalier's commercial, yeah, they had us running the whole you know, you know, retake, retake, retake, right, I promise you. I could not walk for a long time. I mean days, my legs were hurt and so bad, and I'm like, I've come to realize that I am completely out of shape and not young like a lot of them. Oh go, before we go, Dante, did you have and I know you played sports, did you have any sports injuries ever? Did you ever heard anything bruising, anything to anything? Nope? The worst I had was a sprained ankle. That does not bother me now, but I got away unsca. I played football, basketball, rand track. No, no major injuries that's gonna linger. Uh. Yeah, I'm blast man. That's why I said I'm the exception to the rule. Yeah, you was blessed man. I know the football. When I first went to high school, the football colt really wanted me to play football, and I was like, I ain't doing I was, I'm like, y'all, I ain't claim to let y'all kick my ass. I called myself doing wrestling because it was safer. It's still you know what I'm saying, It's just like football, man, it's for nuts. Yea, you are those guys are those kinds are tough, very intense. And I had one of those, like one of those wrestling coaches, you know, the stereotypical coach. It's like really intent like I have. He was in tents. He was in in tents, dude. The two days, remember the two days? Oh god? I hated two days. Like if y'all any of y'all played football, any of y'all played sports, y'all know what two of days are when you had to come and what an hour, like an hour an hour and a half before school started, and generally like get there by six yep, practice or lift weights and then shower and go to and then go to school and then come out of get out of school and then practice. I hated to yep. Oh, two days were the worst when the coach was like, all right, we're having the two days. Oh god. I hated two days. And then I had like I had two injuries prior to that, even before I got to high school, like I played. The school that I went to, elementary school I went to, we had a a boy's volley team and all the basketball players would play on the volleyball team because it was in the basketball players off season, which was really funny because that meant in our school. Our school was kind of like the most urban school, well one of the most urban schools in our private school districts. So it would be like all these all these all these black kids would walk in and playing on the on the volleyball team and all white teams. They'd be looking at us all scared, and we was hitting the ball all aggressive and all that stuff. Right, And I used to play volleyball. I played when I play, I played sixth grade, I played eighth grade. I might have played seventh grade. I don't remember. I know I played three years. And I used to play, and I played fifth grade play. I used to play with no kneepads because we couldn't afford them. Like it was actually really expensive at the time they are now, but like and you know this not say like sports gear, especially for like elementary school or high school, Like that stuff ain't cheap, and we just we just didn't have it. And so I ended up, you know, hurting my knee that way. That was the first time I hurt my knee. And then when I got to high school and wrestled and tortition and my knee, I was like, well, just not to deal with this. Definitely. On that note, stay tuned. We have Dante's Hot Takes coming up next. Here on the Laws. Fuck welcome back and listening to the Outlaws. Make sure that you subscribe to the show on Apple, podcast, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcast. And if you listen to this show on Apple, please make sure you leave us a five star review and a comment is very important for the algorithm. And for those of you who've already done so, thank you oh so very much. And now was the time of the show that we like to call Dante's Hot takes, telling the truth. Whether you like it or not, It's Dante Stakes on the Law's radio show. So the president of the Teachers Union of Chicago is now underscrewed me and in some hot water after she had to come out and admit to the fact that one of her children is in one of the best private schools in the Chicago area, a Catholic school. Uh, this is a woman again, like I said, who is the president of the teachers Union. She is a black woman. She has let's just she she has straight up called school choice racist. She has argued against its merits. She has been one of the strongest proponents of the public school system. As of course she should be right as the president of the Teacher's Union. She has in the past said with pride that you know, when all three of her children were in public school, that that she believes in the public education system because or that that proof, the proof that she believes in the public education system was the proof was that her children were in public school. Well, now they're not. She was quoted just back in March of twenty twenty two saying that all of her children go to Chicago public schools. And these are the things that legitimize my space within the coalition, she said, content to quote continues, I can't advocate on behalf of public education and the children of this city and the educators of this city without it taking root in my own household. Well, the roots have been severed in her own household. This is a woman who again has called school choice is the civil rights struggle of our generation. Keeping poor children of color trapped in failing public schools is inherently racist. Okay, okay. This is one of the most serious issues that we face in this at this time. With what we know about education and what we know about early childhood development and how getting into a good undergrad can change a child's the trajectory of one's family, or having a connection that certain schools, even elementary and high schools, can have when it comes to just certain connections, just different people that you can meet, different spaces that you can operate in, and obviously, of course the education and the resources that it can provide. We know that the quickest way to uplift someone from poverty is through education. We know that it's been studied, it's true. So for a woman who represents the teachers of Chicago Public school to then turn around and argue against letting poor children and poor families decide for themselves where they want to go, how they feel that they how they want to go, and uplift their own families. For her to to argue against that while then using the resources of those schools is in my opinion, one of the greatest offenses that we can have. And this is an even deeper issue because of the racial divide here, especially when when we know that, Okay, this is a black woman, and we understand that, I mean, if we're talking about Chicago. We know that in certain areas, Chicago can be very segregated, right, we know that the north or the south side and the west side. We got a lot of a lot of poor black families, So to look at them and to deny them the upward mobility that school choice can provide, while you, who have resources, use your resources to better your children's education while still denying them. That is the type of gatekeeping that I personally have a problem with when I see black people doing it, because that is the type of stuff that that that's the type of mentality of I'm a black person and I've made it, but I want to be the only black person in this space. And quite honestly, how dare you? How dare you? This is? I mean, you are arguing against letting people make the choice of upward mobility while you are a product of upward mobility, and while you extend the opportunity to your children. That's all I look at school choices in reality, it's just the opportunity for upward mobility. Does everybody take advantage of it? No? Does every child that goes to a to a private school, or to a charter school or to a non failing school district? Does? Does every child do well? No? No, just like every child that every kid that goes to college doesn't graduate. Just like every kid that goes to college does not come out with a degree that or a job that pays high It's just about the opportunity, the opportunity to touch the resources that are available, the opportunity to do more when the district that you are in is trying to trap you. Because let's just be honest about this, I've heard all the arguments for pulling certain children out of certain school districts would only harm the districts even more. Well. The reason why is because those districts are not competitive in the beginning. Those districts either lack of funding for various number of reasons. Those districts are not competitive in terms of resources for various reasons, and those are issues that do need to be tackled, but not to the detriment of current students. If you have a plan to fix the district, then fix the district and make it competitive so that so that parents would be comfortable leaving their children in the school. But don't block parents from taking their children out of a failing district and giving their children the opportunity for upward mobility, especially not when you yourself provide those opportunities to your own children. That's the type of black gate keeping that's the type of elitism that I am one hundred percent against because in reality, that's not the white man keeping your kid down, that's not the white man keeping somebody else down. That's you getting ahead in the game and then trying to close the door so that nobody else can get in, when in reality, you need to get in and leave the door open, and not only leave the door open, but but and bite as many people in as you possibly can. That's how you can be a benefit to your community, not by closing the door and then pretending to speak for everyone else, because that's what a lot of these gatekeepers do. And it happens on the right end on the left. But this is a prime example that I saw this week, a prime example of a gatekeeper deciding that they were that they have resources and that they were going to argue against letting other people use those resources or have the opportunity to use those resources. And that's disgusting too. Yeah, you see that a lot. It's it's gatekeeper culture, which I despise. I share that with you. And and the reason why I despise gay keeper culture is because too often there are black folks, particular in particular like you know, I'm sure other groups deal with this, but we're talking about black folks right now, so we're specifically talking about black folks. There are some black folks who get access. It's hard enough to get access as it is for all of us, but there are some black folks who get access and then shut the door behind them. They are the people who too, like Tupac talked about, they climb up and then when they get up, they don't leave the ropes, and all all you want is just one greedy for one greedy person to throw the rope back over so some more people can come. You know, I wish that more parents, and I'm talking black, white, all racists on this, that more parents really understood how important their child's education really is. It is the door to up mobility. Like statistics consistently show that if your child has a good education, it gives them more opportunities later in life, and if they have a bad education, it takes away some of the opportunities that they have. So a lot of times, you know, parents are literally making decisions for their their child's education today that will affect whether they're whether their child lives in poverty fifteen or twenty years from them, And so when you understand how important that decision is, you should want every parent to have every choice available to them so that they have as many options as possible to make the decision that is best for their child. The issue with people like this is they don't They don't really care about the children. They don't really care about the students. They care about the institution. There's a difference, because if you cared about the kids, you would want the kids to get a good education, no matter where that education came from. You'd want your public schools to be good and competitive and strong, to be able to compete. But if they can't, you'd rather If you really care about kids, you would rather have kids go to a good private school or charter school than a bad public school. But if you care about the institution and don't give a damn about the kids, then you'd rather than go to the public school because it gives you more money. There was one thing that you said, Dante, that just I agreed with everything you say, but there was one thing in particular that really stood out to me because it's something I've said before. Also, you know, they want, they expect you, they expect to be able to experiment on how they fix quote unquote the public school system, and they want experiment on your child in order to do it. They want you no leave your kid in a public school. You don't get the opportunity to send your kid to a private school, and you just stay here while we fix it. Well, they may take us another twenty years to fix it, but your kid only got eight years left in school, so you're supposed to put your child's future on the line for the institution. That sounds very communistic, and not everybody believes in that garbage. If you are, if you know your school district is failed, and you do not want poor parents to get vouchers to be able to send their kids to the public, private, or charter school of their choice, while you yourself choose not to send your kid to the very public schools district that you work for, that is diabolical. That is evil. That is the worst kind of gatekeeping. When you know how important education is, when you know that a parent sending their child to the right school can be the difference between that child thriving and that child growing up in poverty. To try to prevent parents from being able to send their kids to the school of their choice because they don't have enough money to pay for it on their own, while you take the resources that you get from the taxpayer to send your kids to a private school. That's awful, awful shame on any of these arrogant, elitist douche bags who think like this Dante last word and let them not a follow. It's yeah, man, I just I that that type of stuff. Obviously that there's a political argument to this, and we can always have that. But when I see this type of gatekeeping, like you said it, that breaks my heart because it's like, wow, you you would really trap other You would really trap young black children that have less reads, that have less resources and less privileged than you. You would rather trap them and try to swing the door wide open for them, because you know, God forbid, you ain't the only one anyway. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at hey br t A E B R y E miss O'Malley. 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