This is the FCB podcast Network. Great. This is when they drunk yaw boot change that dog. We don't listen to y'alls. This the cold dog. We don't listen to y'alls. This the out Dog. Make a scream out down like a sound ug because the rockets into clown like a ball. Tuned into the charge from the outdog, Tuned into the charge from the outlog. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is DARVYO the King, Pittmorrow alongside Robin O'Malley and Dante Bright. Don't forget too Like us on Facebook and Facebook dot com slash the Outlaws Radio. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws Radio. We have a lot of things to discuss. It's been a very hectic week in America, and we'll get to that in just a little bit. But first, Mistermalley, how are you? Ah? You know what, I'm actually great. I mean, I'm starting to get back on my my a game, get my stuff back together, you know as far as um my careers with acting and modeling and all that. So I've just been pretty focused and kicking it. Yeah yet listen, I no, but summer summer technically is not here yet. Technically, Um, but no it has not. But you know what I do, I am in the works of Like I said, I'm in the works of m applying two different things and um, getting more into commercial work. So hopefully, you know, hopefully, but pretty soon we're gonna go. Pretty soon, y'all go see my face everywhere. Even the people that don't like don't like me. Bear all right, Well, hopefully that movie comes out sometime in the next ten years. Listen, listen. I was just the beginner, so I mean, listen, whatever, I'm looking forward to it. I wouldn't see it. I'll admits to you. I'm a little nervous to actually see that. Really definitely nervous. I mean I got my edumication. You know what I'm saying. Well, you did a good job playing you did you did a good job playing a Karen, right, I do not know because it was actually really hard and I was freezing. So yeah, we'll see, all right, you sir. I am. Well, it's been a good week. I um, I'm happy the weekend is here. And uh, what a day, man, It's been a This has been a very entertaining day in America. Just like a reality show or a sitcom. This was a reality show, people would be appalled. This was a sitcom. The crowd would have made the whole sound. And if this was let's see, I don't know. If this was a dark comedy, the writers would need to get raised because today was just I mean, my goodness. You know, it's crazy when the sitting president when basically, when the FBI gives Congress a letter saying that they have a witness and reasonable evidence and reasonable cause to believe that the sitting president took a bride that it's basically second page news. You know your country is in deep, deep mess. I mean, because think about it any other day. That's a big deal. The FBI is like, yo, our current president, Uh, let me talk to you about him, right, And that ain't even if that's not even the most important thing that happened today. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's wild. Like we were talking off the air. I would I would hate to be turning eighteen next year and it'd be my first presidential election and it be my introduction to the political system, and this would this would make me not want to vote ever. The owner of either one of these candidates, well, man, oh man, you might join you about to get in, oh man, and let me get that let me get that money back real quick. So on that though. I recorded an interview earlier today with Jim van Laar from Red State, the managing editor, and we're gonna go to that right now. All right, we have a very special guest on the show today. She's been on the show before. She is a dear friend and the managing editor of red state dot com. Jennifer van Lar. Welcome back. How are you. I'm great, How are you good? Good? So it's been a slow, slow newsday, slow newsday. We have a lot of stuff to talk about. First, obviously the Trump federal indictment that came the day before we're taking this interview. Why don't you catch us up on on where we're at now. The indictment was unsealed, so just catch people up on on where we are with everything. So and it's ever changing. So hopefully by the time people listen to this maybe I don't listen to it immediately, hopefully this information will will be good. But we don't know how that. That's the danger of news cycles. But where we are today Friday evening is Trump the indictment has been unsealed. He has not actually appeared in a courtroom yet. That will happen on Tuesday in Miami. And it's a forty nine page I believe it is, yes, forty nine page indictment with a lot of chartist dozens of charges, mostly relating to surprisingly, I'm sharing national defense information that should not be share it wasn't it's in other words, it's not necessarily related to classification or declassification. Something could be declassified and still not be able to be shared with others. So have so with with all of these charges, gauge the seriousness of it. It appears that these are some of these, that these are pretty serious. Some of these, actually they are pretty serious, and that's because they have pictures, they have text messages of people saying precisely that they knew what kind of documents they were and that they some of them were classified as five eyes only, which five eyes is of various five countries that we share intelligence with, and it's only supposed to be the people that are at a very high level on that, and the just the sorry, I've still blown away a little bit by all of it, so it's hard to put all of it into work. Basically, it's it's very serious because it's not just your garden variety. Oh, this was something that's not really a big deal, but it's marked classified anyway, because we have a problem with overclassification in our country. So it's a bigger deal because this is stuff that we're Some of them were battle plans of a potential invasion of a country we don't know which country it was, and things that actually could have gotten people killed, like confidential human source information, that kind of thing. They're intelligence agency, So it's not just something that was randomly classified and really shouldn't have been. And the other thing is that he's talking about it with people. They have interviews with people who Trump showed these documents to allegedly, and they said that he acknowledged, yes, this is this plan. Isn't that? Isn't that wild that we have this kind of stuff? And so that makes it a lot more serious because you can't just be going around talking about this stuff when it's stuff that pertains to our national defense an ability to defend ourselves. What if any of these people were somehow affiliated with another country's foreign our intelligence apparatus, we don't want to have that just going around, and I don't know that Trump would be able to know whether these people he was talking to were somehow affiliated with a foreign country. And best of us get bambooz old sometimes. So do we know why he still had these documents? Did he did he believe that he could still have them or or what? Why why did he even have these documents still? Well, he had, but they were within what he called his papers. So he had a lot of boxes of papers, which every president has papers that they take with them. I was by the Writing Library and they have a whole part of it that the public can't go into, but where it actually is a library and has his papers, but you're not supposed to take some of the classified documents. So they were within his papers that he took when he left the White House. And so at first people were thinking back at the time of the Marlago, right, well, maybe things some things just got accidentally mixed in, which is still, you know, a possibility. But when you discover that you have battle plans and they're marked with very sensitive markings, then that's when you find someone to give it back to. Right right, we're talking with Jim van Laar, who's managing editor at red state dot com. So there's been a lot of people who've been bringing up what I think is a valid point to make. Doesn't really help Frump legally, but it made politically. Is the comparison between how this is being handled and how the Hillary Clinton case was handled. And you even see Hillary Clinton on Twitter today mocking, openly mocking the fact that essentially many people believe she got away with egregiously breaking the law. Do you do you believe, and I know that you had a prior to this life, you had a criminal justice background. Also, do you believe that that's a fair comparison to say, well, wait a minute, how come this case is being handled differently than the Hillary Clinton situation. Oh, I absolutely believe that that's a fair comparison to make. And while it might have come off in the earlier part of this segment that I was ready to just throw Trump in jail and throw away the key, I'm not. And that's the reason why. And I just wrote a piece about this at Red State because after hearing the Special Counsel's less than three minute statement earlier today about this, which was completely I mean, I thought I was in bizarro world listening to this guy talk about how the Department of Justice is committed to adherence to the rule of law and that we only have one set of laws in this country and they apply to everyone. I mean, you know as a black man that that's not true, right, And I have had that discussion a million times, and it's definitely not true with this with Hillary Clinton and Trump. And you know, in addition to my criminal justice background, I have family members that are in the intelligence community, and I have family members who have been harmed physically because of Clinton and Obama treating out information without the care that it should have been treated with. So but when Hillary, what happened, just to remind everyone, and I had to remind myself, was that James Coomey they had evidence that the fbr FBI developed evidence that she violated the Espionage Act and by sharing or having this information on her server at her house, and Comey said that they couldn't find any direct evidence that hostile governments access this information. But then also, but you know, we don't know that we could actually find a digital trail if they had, but we don't think they did, And so that means that if they don't, if they didn't get this information and then basically no harm, no foul, Like it would be more harmful to the country to indict this woman who's running for president. That's like the polar opposite of what's happening today with Trump. And I mean, do we have any evidence that any hostile governments access these documents that Trump had? I mean, at least on like Hillary, his were physical paper doctor humans in private areas at his residence that was guarded by Secret Service. So the odds that any foreign government person got a hold of these documents there are a lot lower than the odds that anyone got information from Hillary Clinton. And yet she just skated. And so is it now that are we now saying that it's not destructive to the country too? In dibe a person running for president, right, and not only a person running for president, but the current president's predecessor and his potential opponent, Like this this is and that's the thing that I am the most concerned about, because I think there can be two things that are right at the same time. It can both be accurate that this prosecution is largely political, and also, you know, Trump kind of walked right into this trap. Like two things can be two things can be true at once. And I think the concerning part about this is the lack of consistency. Now, as as you know and as as a black man, I haven't trusted the FBI period in general, right, Like they have a long history and stuff people that look like me, right, so so distrustid The FBI is not new in in many circles of BAC community. But it's just it's concerning to me because this is going to be We've never lived through anything like this before. What happens now? Can he like a presidential candidate running as an under indictment? Does the trial happen during the election? Like, what the what the hell? What happens now? It could? And I've been listening to people who are a lot smarter than me on that question, like Jonathan Turley and Andrew McCarthy and some other people that have been involved directly, not in this kind of case, because, like we've said, it's groundbreaking, but the special counsel said they were going to move for a speedy trial, which everyone has a right too. But first of all, they need time to prepare a defense. And also the thought seemed to be that a judge would not want to hold a trial in the middle of a campaign because of the damage that it can do because then say he's convicted, then obviously he couldn't still take office. But until he's convicted, he has a presumption of innocence so that that doesn't impact his run at all. And then if he won, he could pardon himself, right right, Like, oh my god, I mean, now you know, my mind spinning. There's so many possibilities of things that can happen, because that's another legal theory that hasn't been tested. But most people believe, most legal scholars believe that a president does have the ability to pardon himself. So if he becomes president again, he can he can pardon him right, I mean, then we have the classified documents that we don't know what necessarily is on them. I don't think we do too much news to keep up with, but that Joe Biden was keeping in his garage of a home where the person that I believe is an unregistered foreign agent, his son was living. So what are reading about that? I mean, he can't be indict of will he's president, But you know, is that something that should be considered too so now and that actually brings brings me. Things brings up another point that I wanted to get into. You also have in the very same week, on the same day that the federal indictment against Trump came out, about Congress finally receiving this letter from the f b I alleging that President Biden while he was vice president allegedly took a bribe relating to Ukraine and BISLA tell people about that for those who aren't aware, there's a allegation that they were taking bribes from a country that we're now giving billions of dollars too. So that seems a little curious, right. So are we facing the possibility because from my understanding, the committee has seen the letter because James Comber had to threaten to who to hold the FBI director and contempt in order for them to get it. So now they're fighting for it to be released because it's not it's not a confidential document. Once that happens, I don't see any way that impeachment proceedings don't begin against president. So are we facing the legitimate possibility that the Republican, potentially the Republican nominee for president, could be under federal indictment while the president the democratic president is going through impeachment proceedings at the same time. I think that that's a very real possibility. I mean, the nomination where Trump would possibly become the nominee wouldn't be until next summer, so hopefully something has resolved with his case before then. Yeah. I don't want the country going through all of that, but that is definitely a possibility. And I don't see how Kevin McCarthy gets away with not initiating just on a political level, impeachment proceedings on this parisma and bribe deal, because hey, there has to be a way to fight back against that weaponization, and this actually is a legit thing. It wouldn't be a political impeachment. And I wouldn't even be surprised if we saw some impeachment proceedings towards the members of Congress, because we all know that they were impeaching Trump over things with Ukraine, and a lot of them probably knew what was going on with the Bidens and all of that government, you see what I'm saying, And so maybe there's potential for impeachments there too. I mean, it's gonna be wild. We thought twenty sixteen was peak wildness. And that I kind of wish we can go back to that. Yeah, this is gonna be it. This is gonna be a mess, because there's no way, especially after this indictment. There is no way, even if Kevin McCarthy didn't want to right, once this comes, once this fully comes out, because they just got the letter, the FBI letter from a confidential informant who is trusted by the FBI, who they have paid for for information. Yeah, how do you not go through in peace? So now you're in a situation where you have two potentially the top candidates for office, both with these kind of clouds over their heads. How does that work for the country? It doesn't. And then I always think about when things like this are happening. And I believe that this indictment happened right now because of that form, because of that coming around, and your Nancy Mace was on TV saying basically the same thing, and it but I mean, these things happened. I think, Okay, when we're paying attention to this, what are we not paying attention to? Right, We're not paying attention to that, But are we also not paying attention to maybe some other Antifa things or maybe some China things or it's interesting to think what we're what could kind of sneak in as an attack on the country while we're all distracted by that, I mean and terrifying. Frankly, yeah, yes, this is bad. This is just we're all gonna beet Wyoming right Derbia, We're just gonna meet Montana Wyoming and like the middle of nowhere, and just I mean, that's gonna be our only option in a minute, because like, this is this is bad. This is really really bad. I mean I have dark humor, so hopefully if this isn't bad, but you know, that's a lot of stress for two old men like Biden and Trump to go on her. You know, things like strokes or her attacks happen right well, and that that'll sten the whole. It's like, look, at this point, there's no good option right right by guns and Ammo and store food. That's that's your This is this is okay. We've never this has never happened before in our lifetime. So let me ask you this, how do you think on the Republican side, how do you think this impacts the presidential race? Because now we thought would happened when the New York indictment came, Trump's numbers went up. Do you think that there's another rally around Trump effect from this or do people just say, Okay, I'm just tired of the drama, Like what what do you think happens? I think a lot of people were already tired of the drama. And one thing that, before knowing about the particulars of the indictment when we were it was coming out last night, and everyone on Trump's team seemed to want all of the other candidates to just immediately rally around him. And I'm thinking, you can't cramp on people for months straight and use disingenuous attacks on them and untrue attacks and then expect them to rally around you. Maybe you should have been doing your memes about Biden and about people on the dem side, you know, over this time, to kind of discredit them. But that said, I think that the candidates have to rally around Trump. They have to because it'll be them if if they whether they succeed or not with taking down Trump, meaning the state, they're going after anyone who becomes a threat to them. So any of those candidates who become the top one, they're just going to be the next target, so they have to rally around him. And what that means for the polls, I'm not sure it could actually help not help Trump as much because then people are seeing, okay, everyone's rallying together. That means basically everything is at the same level. And I can still choose whichever candidate I like the best, right right well, And like you saw with James Come on Jen Stocky Show, he said it has to be Joe Biden. So it's telling you it doesn't matter who the Republican opponent is. The people who have that kind of mindset that James comes of the world are going to be opposed to any of them, So it doesn't matter that it's Trump. Yeah, Trump is a painting ass sometimes. Yeah he brought a lot of this on himself. But if it ain't him, anybody else who's a threat is going to get attacked too. And that's the unfortunate part. And this and one more thing, and I want to get your thoughts on this, Like the thing that I am most concerned about. There's two things I'm concerned about. First of all, going into an election like this where you'll have one president show candidate, one liking presidential Candida under federal indictment, and the other one either having been impeached already or going through impeachment proceedings. That is going to be extremely divisive for the country. Then, on top of that, the tip for tax This is the thing I've always been concerned about. This is what I was incerned about with the last indictment. There is no way on God's green earth if a Republican becomes president in twenty twenty four, no matter who it is, no matter which one of the candidates is, there's no way that they will be able to get by without indicting Joe Bidenden. Like there's no politically from a political perspective, there's no way they could get away with not responding to all of this stuff that's just happening now. So then where does it end? Is it? Like? That's now if you're making a habit of prosecuting your political opponents, that's but now a republic stuff, right, we do have we have to stop that cycle at some point. I mean, legitimate criminal activity as it looks from everything that I've ever seen on the Bidens that has to be rooted out. But the things like this with Trump, you know, and especially without equally applying it to the other side. That has to stop. And then at some point we have to hopefully just get better people in politics where we're not having legitimate things that need to be prosecuted. I mean, I know that's a pipe drink, but I'm always optimistic. Let them not to follow you, let them know how to read your articles where they can go on and good stuff for sure, So at RedState dot com and then I'm on Twitter at Jen van Laar and most of the socials are on at Jen van Laar. All right, thank you so much, Jeff, taking the time and joining us on short notice. I appreciate it. Thank you. Stay tuned. We'll be right back with Mary Outlaws after this. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me, Kira Davis on Jeff Listen to yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas, and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to just Listen to Yourself with Kia Davis and FCB radio podcasts on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. Real talk, real conversations. We got the heat. Yeah, this is the Outlaws Radio Show. Welcome back, Welcome back and listen to the Outlaws. And now was the time to show that we'd like to call tea Time with Row, turn it up, confetition, the latest celebrity news and gossip. It's Tea Time with the Row on the Outlaws Radio Show. All right, John, this this tea, this tea it means or is it milkshake this time? I don't know if it's tea, but uh so we're gonna go with that. It's a little milkshake. So Eliz, who is also known as the person the female singer who sung what back in the nineties, uh my milkshake brings out the boys city Guard. Well this time, she forty three years old, brought Bill Murray, who is seventy two, to her yard. They they are they are allegedly dating. And I do not know how I mean, I do not know how to speak upon this. I know how I feel about this, but it's like, like you know, like I said, it's given very much sugar daddy and and I don't know, I mean, but you like to each their own in whom ever. You know, if you're happy, I'm happy for you. Says like m get down with get down and said with seven listen, seventy two year old man. Well maybe like uh, like Dave Chappelle said when he was dressed as Rick James, maybe the milk has gone bad. Not the milk gone bad, milkshake no more. No, it's it's hey, it's powder to milk, you know, really, I mean honestly. So with that being said, I'm gonna ask you guys like this question off of this topic. Okay, what would you say, is in your personal opinion, the proper age difference that you feel would be okay to date? Oh boy, um, I don't know, man, I mean forties and seventies. I mean, if they love each other. But I don't know. That seems that seems kind of sugar daddy ish. But you know, just had a baby, he show did he's almost Oh you right. Some older person in my family once said, if you can they get something coming and something comes out, you can go. So these older guys that played by different rules, all right, all right, I mean it's amazing. I mean, but that that right there, that's taking a risk. That's taking a risk because Robert that baby come out looking weird. Robert that now that came out like powdered. I just had a baby, and and didn't de Niro have a kid recently too? I think so? I think so. I mean, we're talking about the two greatest actors of the seventies still getting girls pregnant. And that's why I looked to me. They somebody said they compete. They're competing on They competing like they did on the set of Guyfather Too came out in like nineteen seventy six, Like like mine, they're competing over the old shoot. I can have a baby at ninety. No, you can have a baby at it wont to handle Like, could you imagine being like that's the old guy at the park chasing the kid. Could you imagine that you're in your eighties and people think there's your grandkids or oh, your great grand oh, your grand baby so cute. I would be worried about living long enough to see this child actually becoming a dog. You won't, You probably won't. I mean, it really apends on if you got good jeans. You know what, what's how long you wanna live? Like, right, and you had a kid at eighty and Okay, there's a lot of people that are living into their nineties now and even even early hundreds. But it's still unless technology and medicine continue to evolve. You know, the odds aren't that great that you're gonna live behind like at max like one hundred and one, one hundred and two or something like that. So you barely gonna make the high school graduation. You probably won't make the college graduate. Ye, it's very unlikely that you make that college graduation, very unlikely. Right, Listen, child high school and you're going to college at the same time. A matter of fact, we're gonna have to masure out in a certain period of time. That's an incredible trust fund. Baby. It's like you didn't you you're not going to grow up with your father, but you will will be Your inheritance is probably very nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah that I mean yeah, but that but but you know you also y'all didn't also did not answer the very first question, but that that topic is great. No, we're going to that was hilarious, but we're going to uh we're gonna revisit that. So I would ask you, Robin, how old would you go? Oh? No, forties, forties. I'm not going any listen, listen, Nope, I'm not going any higher than the early forties, which is still you know, around my age group, not too far from me, you know what I mean. I can't go any other So see, it's it's difficult for me because I have to give two answers based off of not the fact that I don't have kids yet that impacts my answer. If I had kids already, I go early fifties if she bad. You know what I'm saying. I go early fifties if she's bad. But because I don't have kids yet and I want kids, that limits my range. Dante, how old would you go? I'm not going to anybody because I want children too, and I'm twenty eight, so I'm not going any higher than like thirty one thirty two because i want multiple children, and I'm going is low. I mean, I can't go too low because, like I said, I'm only twenty eight, so I ain't going too low. Right, Like I don't have the you know what I mean, like these brothers to be out her day, and girls, that's twenty years day junior. It's like brother, not me, y'all. You can't all right, that's a that's a life sentence. I probably like maybe twenty four. And she's really like, you know, because women mature faster than men anyway, So like twenty four, she knows what she wants, she knows what she got going on that that's reasonable, right, I could do twenty five, twenty six, like like maths and they have to be mature, but I could go twenty Let's see when we get sixty, we may say twenty five, twenty six five, what's your what's your youngest? Robin I go? But twenty eight I'm not going. I'm not going to twenty five. I can't. I can't do it because like that just like it's just too close to like you know, like I said, my niece just turned twenty years old. Oh that's weird. I can't. Like that'd just be weird. Like hey, what's up, nephew, Like you ain't trying to be spelling get your groove back, no, because really, and you also got to think about this as well, like what do you really have in common with these certain particular individuals at a certain age group, you know what I mean, like whether you go younger or older like you, Yeah, Grandpa could teach me at the thing or two, but he ain't gonna give me everything that I want. Like, I mean, they got pills. They got pills, rob playing with me? Stop playing with me? Hey, they got pills and pumps are playing. Maybe when I get to that certain age where I require some extra stuff to help me, maybe maybe, but systo in the game. So no, like and then when you go younger, it's like and it really all depends on the maturity level also because you know when you go younger, it's like they're not thinking like as a woman. You know, for me, as a woman, if I was to date man, he would have to be able to lead me, and being that I have children, he would have to be able to you know, um, take care of us and make sure that works straight as well. Like as a man, that is that is your position, you know what I mean. So if you're too young and you're not mature enough, No, that's not it's not okay that you're gonna treat him like Wana Hokey said. And I don't that. I mean, I like to be a little bussy, but not like that, like you know, like I don't want to feel like I have to have another child. I don't want to so yah know. And the messing around being like my mom and throwing shoes at him or something like what. So all right on that note, before we get ourselves in any trouble, continuing this conversation where it goes off on the defense, Uh, stay tuned. We have done things I takes coming up decks here on the Outlaws. Fuck true, welcome back, welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws, and now it's time to show up. We like to call Dante's I take telling the truth. What did you like it or not? It's dante'side takes on the Laws radio show. I feel like starting to show. Like Bernie Matt used to start his monologue on his on his show to Bernie Max Shaw arrest in peace to the legend where he would just be like, well, America, so well, America, we have had a day. President Trump was indicted on a bunch of felonies. Some seem to be absolute nonsense, but there are some that seemed to be very credible and without getting into the entire tea of like the legallys and the really technical stuff, because I don't want to lose anybody. The basis of which seems to of the most credible charges against him, seemed to be a question of was he still the president when he kept certain classified documents? And these classified documents a lot of them pertain to our nuclear program and the nuclear programs of some of our allies, and potential names and records of spies and things like that. Now, if President Trump was indeed still the president, then this is a nothing burger simply because the president has the power to declassify anything. Thus meaning you know, he can do whatever he wants with certain dot with whatever documents because he can declassify anything. However, if he was not, then that's a bit of a problem. So we'll see how everything shakes out. But I to me, this is bad on two fronts. Right. So on the one hand, Trump and his supporters are claiming that, hey, this is a witch hunt. This is Joe Biden and his Department of Justice out to get me because they don't want me as a threat to his presidency. If that is, if that is true, then this is a dark day in America because that's some third world country stuff. In a first world, civilized country, we do not use the police to go after political opponents. That's terrible, and the Republic cannot stand for that. On the other hand, if we had a former president who was no longer the president abused access and gain in essentially steal documents that could have put our nuclear program and the programs of our allies in danger, that's also a problem, and the Republic can't stand for that. So however, this plays out as a dark day for America. This does to help. This doesn't help ease any sort of tension. Right. We are really at a crossroads simply because of something that I brought up a long time ago when I compared the United States to the Roman Empire. At the time, Rome was the greatest civilization ever known to man. They were so far ahead when it came to education and their military and their financial prowess. They were the top of the food chain. Nobody could be Rome. They never the Romans were never even defeated by a foreign power. What destroyed the Roman Empire the only thing that could the Roman Empire, And we are just seeing a lot of similarities when it comes to the United States. Nobody is going to defeat the United States militaristically. It's not happening. What can defeat the United States the United States, And it almost happened with our Civil War almost one hundred years old, two hundred almost two hundred years ago, about one hundred and fifty years ago. Right, But I don't want to be hyperbolic when I like to pretend like we're close to that. I don't think. I hope not. But that is the only thing that could destroy this country. I mean hyperpartisanship. And you know, politicians who I mean think think about this. We are hearing that this makes Trump a stronger candidate for the Republican Party and makes him more likely to win the nomination as since he's being since being indicted. I mean, this man could have put all of our security at risk and the security of our allies at risk, and he's more popular. I mean that that's where we are, right and so that means the other side is gonna dig injustice deep. This is not a good situation for our country. If you are not too far gone in terms of your partisanship, just pray for the country as a whole. I really hold both parties to blame here, because I mean, the best you can do is potentially an eighty year old criminal in Biden and seventy nine year old criminal potentially in Trump. That's the best, y'all guy, that's our best and brightest. That's a I mean, that's not great for either party. So I don't know, man Darvill. Hopefully you could talk me off the ledge a little bit, but I'm not. I don't like where we are. Well, I don't like where we are either. I do understand though, why Trump's popularity may actually go up at this and part of it is because it's almost like the boy who cried Wolf. Half of the country has come It wouldn't have mattered what came out in this indictment. Half of the country has already completely checked out because of collusion, you know, the Russia collusion, because of the first impeachment, because of the second impeachment, because of the New York indictment. What people who hate Trump, what they don't understand is when Trump is telling the voters that these people are out to get me, and then you do stuff like Russia collusion, like impeachment one, impeachment to the New York indictment. What does that look like? It looks like you're out to get him. So now when you have this federal indictment, and some of the things in this indictment are pretty serious, people are now inclined, how for the country almost are inclined to blow it off because you've tried to kill this man a hundred times, and in their view, every time you tried to come at him, it's been shown to be fraudulent in their in their view, right, So the problem with this is now you have and on top of that, they've seen, like like I talked with Den van Laar about, they've seen the uneven and unequal treatment when it comes to quote unquote political crimes. So now you have half of the country almost that is going to believe that any action that they take against Trump is illegitimate, no matter what it is, no matter what they do, they're gonna believe that that any of it is illegi because of everything else that's happened prior to right. And then on the other side, you have Joe Biden who has allegedly, will say allegedly been incredibly incredibly accused of taking bribes while vice president and not only that, but you can because they set the president with the second impeachment of impeaching a president who was no longer president. Now you've set the president that the House of Representatives can impetue the sitting president for something that he did when he was vice president. This stuff, and this is why this has always been my concern from the beginning. This was my concern with the Marlago raid, This was my concern with the New York indictment. When you start doing things like this, there was a reason why people like Hillary Clinton and others were allowed to get away with things that were clearly illegal, because people understood at the time that the cost of indicting a politic elading political figure for the office of the presidency was a was too the price was too high. There was a reason why Gerald Ford sacrificed his own political future to pardon Richard Nixon, even though it was clear Richard Nixon was guilty, because he knew that prosecuting a former president would tear the country apart. So he put That was one of the main reasons he lost reelection. He put his own political career on the line to do what was right for the country. So now you have a situation where you have a bunch of selfish bastards on all sides who are not willing to do that you have on one side with Trump, two things can be true. At the same time. Yes, he is being politically targeted. It is obvious to anyone who does not despise this man that he's being politically targeted. But it's also true that he was dumb as hell for doing what he did, and he opened the door for this indictment in the first place. And then at the same time, the current president's Justice Department is prosecuting the former president that the current president be and the person who's likely to be the one challenging the current president. Again, what the hell? How is this good for the country. There was an understanding that you don't do this. So now what happens. What happens if by twenty twenty four you have one presidential candidate who's in the middle of a federal trial and another presidential candidate who's in an impeachment trial. Because I'm telling you something, within the next six to eight months, Joe Biden's going to get impeached. Because now, especially if this is especially if with the FBI no doubt sent out later earlier today, like that's that's very damning. And if there is any credibility to that, he's going to get impeached. He's if there I mean, if there's a I mean credibility with you know, if you can really produce said witness or you know, if that person doesn't suicide. Until you know where I'm going with this, like that, that's very damned. I mean, I mean to take a bride, like, if that were you or me jail, we'd already be locked up, right, we'd be in jail. You will already be locked up. So we can't continue in this cycle. So let's what happens. Trump becomes president again and beats Biden. Do you think that Trump's Justice Department is not gonna go after Joe Biden? Of course they are. And you know what, well, here's the thing. Trump will have to put better people around him because he didn't go after Clinton. He didn't go after Hillary Clinton because and here's the thing here, but here's the thing that goes back to my point, even they knew you don't do that, right, he would so he would have to he would literally have to get people to do so for it. You know what I mean, this to me looks I just I mean this reeks though, I mean this is like who's the dirty People knew and people try to use it as an no, even they knew, that's a bridge too far. You beat her, let her go. You know she did what she did was illegal. Everybody know what she did was illegal. But let her go because it's not good for the country. Even their people knew that. So when you so now you're in this tip attach, where does it stop? So? Now every time, when when when power changes hands, is the new administration going to going to indict members of the previouseners? Are we gonna do That's banana republic stuff, y'all correct, That is not what you That is not what we do in first world countries. It's it's just not no. No. At some point, people on both sides, Republicans and Democrats, are going to have to be adults here and say, look, if y'all gonna do this, either everybody gotta get either everybody gotta get it or nobody get it like that's that. Those those have to be the rules. You cannot say, all right, well, we're not gonna punish this one but we're gonna punish that one. We're gonna we're not gonna go after this person, but where we're gonna go after that person based off whether you agree with them politically or not. You have to say either all y'all get it or none of y'all get it, one or the other, because this, this right here is going to tear this country apart, last word, and let him not to follow you. Just pray for the Republic, really really pray for the Republic. Forget about your side and think about survival. Forget about who you you know, who you like, forget about who you don't like, and just think about the survival of the country you live in. Especially if you ain't got resources to go somewhere else. Okay, if you don't have a resources to go somewhere to just pack up and be like, ooh, this is a mess. This is all crumbling, and you don't have resources to do that, you really need to pray, okay. Yeah. Follow me on Instagram at Ta Brian and Twitter at Ta Brian, tae b r y E Missilmalley. 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