Ep. 13 - J. Cole backs down from the rap battle, the Solar Eclipse and more
Tea Time with RoApril 14, 202400:36:0032.88 MB

Ep. 13 - J. Cole backs down from the rap battle, the Solar Eclipse and more

Robin and the Outlaws team analyze J. Cole backing out of the brewing battle begtween him, Drake and Kendrick Lamar. The team also talks about what it was like seeing the Solar Eclipse and more.
This is the FCB podcast network, Turn it Uppectation, the latest celebrity news and gossipation. It's tea time with Row on the Outlaws Radio show. All right, jol So, I got a few different stories. It's a lot to keep up on, you know. So it's a lot of tea that be going around. But we're gonna go ahead and we are going to go with it's been a lot of beef. I do want to say, there's been a lot of beef behind a lot of rappers, females and males as of like truthfully, like the past week or so. So anyway, these names you wouldn't expect to be beefing like. They're probably some of the most humble ones out there, which is j Cole and Kendrick Lamar. So I guess you know they've been having some I don't really know the whole backstory entirely, but I do know that Jake Cole he was dissing Kendrick Lamar and one of his most recent songs that he dropped. But then he turned around and he was like, that's the lamest thing that I've ever done in my life. And I moved in a way that I spiritually feel bad. So originally he felt like he felt the need, like he was obligated to respond to Kendrick Lamar because all, that's what the fans wanted, that's what social media wanted, that's what the people wanted, and so he say that's why he came with that. But then he was like, yeah, this don't feel right. You know, let me publicly acknowledge this and apologize and to me my personal opinion. I feel like I have so much respect for that because it I don't. It don't always have to be like that, you know what I mean, especially coming from Jake Cole. You know, he's, like I said, he's one of the most humble ones there is and you wouldn't expect something like that from him. No, instead of giving my response we're gonna go to dun today, I'm taking say what he was saying before the show. Jake Cole is a sucker. Let's just put it out there. He's a sucker. This whole doesn't feel right in my spirit. It's a farce because let me let me just let me just explain something to everybody here. Rap is a competitive sport. I could understand if j Cole actually had if J Cole was actually one of those type of rappers and Kendrick was one of those type of rappers and they had those affiliations in a beef could lead to something different. No, this is this was a rap of who got the best pen, who's the best, who's actually the best lyricist, who got the best bars in the game. That's what this was about. This wasn't no gang stuff. This was anything like that. It never has been with Kendrick. It never has been with Cold, So we was never getting to that. So J Cole just don't want to smoke. Although even though J Cole for the last ten years has basically been saying in all of his raps because I listen, has essentially been saying I'm the best and if anybody gets out of the line, I'm gonna smoke him. And if and if y'all want to smoke, come get it, and if you got a problem with me, let me know, because I smoke a rapper all of this stuff. He's been saying this for a decade, and so when Kendrick poked his head out, then he wont to cop Please, No, he's a sucker. And then let me tell you this Kanye West, who's not even an MC, not even a quote MC, like we considered he's not one of those type. J Cole dissed him when he was two days out of a mental rehabit out of mental rehab, J dissed him with false profits. So his spirit was okay to this a guy to dis a guy who's not an MC, who's an threat, who's fresh out of out of like a mental hospital. But when somebody says, okay, you say you the best, I think I'm the best. You you you you you got a stomach ache. You don't want to you don't want to play them. It's not a competitive sport anymore. We know, and this is And let me tell you something. Okay, my mom is from the Bronx. Okay, my family herd line in our family where our family is southern, but through the Great Migration, our people went to New York. So okay, this is in my blood here. Rap has always been a competitive sport. And I can tell you I would understand if this was like YG on the West Coast and like, uh, like, let's say YG and Schoolboy Q and one of them was like, nah, we grown, we don't need those guys have certain affiliations with certain organizations, and you understand what I'm talking about. If you know the rap game, that would make me uncomfortable because like, Okay, somebody can die behind this. This ain't that ain't a J Cole and Kendrick. This is just who got the best, who got the best bars, who really the best? That's what That's what this was about. And J Cole didn't want no part of it. This isn't about maturity, This isn't about growth, This isn't about any of that. This is this is J Cole not actually being a part of the culture. That's what this really is. This is J Cole's fans who will tell you no, you just gotta be smart enough to hear it. You just have to have an elevated level of knowledge. Oh really, Because he didn't want to go there with a guy who was better than him, That's what that was. This is like if if if Lebron did all of this talking about, well, I think I'm actually the goat. Now I'm the go I'm I'm the best player of all time. If somebody said, hey, I'll build a time machine and you can go play Jordan one on one and Lebron said, Nah, they don't feel right in my spirit. That's what this is. That's what that means. He don't want to smoke a sucker, And that's cool. You can just be that, but don't ever tell me that. You don't ever tell me you the best rapper in the game ever again, because you not, because when the time came to prove it, you back down. Let me say, let me just say this as a student of hip hop, everybody got they moment, right, everybody got that got they moment. J co nas you don't want it? Would hold Na said? Oh really? Oh really? I mean we we got plenty of examples, plenty of examples of guys who never got to a level of like physical violence or or shooting, who was just like you dissed me. Well, I'm gonna show you I got the best bars. So y'all can miss me with this whole J Cole is J JCole is a sucker, and J Cole didn't want to compete, and J Cole got exposed for what it really is. So here's the thing. I'll just say one thing and then I'll give it. So J Cole is he's still a good rapper. I still like J Cole's music. But here's the thing. There was one tweet that I think was a perfect describe this perfectly. It was like J Cole back and down to the first rap battle that was never in any threat of turning violence. Ever. Wasn't nobody about to pull up on Kennedy. Wasn't nobody about to pull up on J Cole with the gun? That's come on, man. That was never like that. And they don't even have clue. And Darby, DARBYO is laughing because you know I'm right, You know I'm right. But but I think he liked J Cole and I like Jacob I do. I like I like J Cole. But you can never ever ever be one of those guys ever again. You just can't. You just can't. You're not that guy because no, like you said, this isn't even dangerous. This isn't I mean, this ain't even I could even understand a guy like me right, and he's been in the news for a bunch of stuff, But a guy like a battle situation where Meek Mill could get dangerous because of where he comes from and some of the guys he rolled with, right not necessarily saying meek is dangerous. But some of the guys in certain crews may be dangerous. That's why I said, like if it was yg or like when Nipsey was still alive, or like you know the game. You know these some of these guys got certain affiliations where it's like you need to be careful with those. Think about that. There's a certain element that maybe they won't do it, but there's guys that they roll with or guys that they care about or care about them that would appreciate what you have to say. But Kendrick Lamar and j Cole really, come on, man, stop it. Stop. This ain't that this is just who got the best team. This ain't no different than than if you talking smack at the lunch table about I'm the best basketball player in the school, and then I come in to lunch room and say, no, I'm the best basketball player in the school right now. Yeah, we're gonna settle it on the court at recess. We're gonna go after school or the third period in gym class that we're gonna really see. That's all that was and wasn't up for it all right, Robin, your thoughts if you got any more thoughts on this if not go on to the next You know, I was I was gonna cut Dante out before, you know, originally I was gonna try. I was gonna try to, I was gonna try to go up against him. But I don't think I'm gonna get this one. So I'm gonna let I'm gonna I'm gonna let that one go, just this one time, Dante, So don't don't take it to the head. He just didn't want to smoke. And I'm telling you, I think that's okay. If you don't want to smoke, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm gonna go ahead and move along. Let me mind my business now. So we're gonna go ahead and actually go to the next battle. Uh So the next battle is Chris Brown. Uh he dropped a new track, Tender, So he I'm gonna try to say this. What I'm saying this, Okay, I'm gonna try to say this. So basically, I'm gonna change the words around a little bit, just a little bit, all right. So he says people talking about they'd be loyal, but yo, he probably at the spot right now eating d You know what I'm saying I'm next. You know what I'm saying. Right then, he says, wait, hold up, wait was that himber No, So that one, that one is Quevos, that one's Puevos. Let me come back to that. Let me come back to that. Okay, So christ start off, So said, what now I'm gonna come back to Quevo. Okay, I'm gonna come back to Cuevo because I cannot start off with Quavo. Okay, you cannot start off with because Cbo response. Okay, God, Chris Brown says, okay, now f in my old bees. Ain't gotta make us equal snipping that nineteen forty two because I don't do Cuevo freak bees. She like Hatsu migos, not the migos. I don't f with bougie bees man. That's the s is all the hype. So then, because you know who he's talking about, right yes, okay, So Cuevo responds and he says, they talking about they be loyal. You'll probably at the spot right now, eating d You know what I'm saying, I'm next. You know what I'm saying. He says, I'm in the spot. He signs the stones, signs the stones you did the bee wrong and now the bee gone. She posted with a thug. Yeah, with a thug call me the bee phone. She won't come home. Don't beat her up. Don't beat her up. It must be the truth. Be the drugs. You need to cross out your pluck. Oh damn wow. They all because of Carucci. Because Chris Brown. So that's what it's about. It's about Chris Brown used to day Cruci. He was maddening love with her. Screwed up like you know, you know how when a man screws up and then they realize dang, you know. So I mean you don't know, but you know, you know, because I'll be talking crap exactly. I'm a car carrying member of the Faithful Black Man Association, So I'm go ahead. So you know, he messed up with Carucci. It's been it's been years years. He actually came out with a song at one point, like basically trying to publicly apologize to her. Even said her name in it. So that's basically standing outside the window with your boombox trying to sing get your girl back. You know. So now he saw it because Quevo's dating her and this just came out of the blue. Like like, give it up, love, give it up. She's gone, She's gone. So I have a question. It's kind of related. But I was just thinking about this when you said that, like the whole standing outside with your boom box trying to get your girl back. Has it ever worked on you? Nobody has ever actually tried that it might No, No, yeah, I can't really say because no, I guess it really all depends on you know, it really depends the person. It depends on the situation, who the person is, what the history is. It really all depends because otherwise it's going to be singing like Rihanna when she said you standing outside, she'd be dogging them, you know. Otherwise that's playing in my head and I'm gonna stand there laughing like no, Bode. You know, all right, I'll tell you your thoughts. Yeah, I don't know, man, Chris, Chris always in some type of some type of mess. I don't know. I'm like Darby, I can't relate. I'm a member of the Faithful Black Man Association. Remember, and I don't know what christ is because I was told black men don't cheat, So I don't know what he is. You know what's funny though it's funny that Robin did this story after the last story because Wednesday, I will say about Chris Brown. Chris Brown got more heart than some of these rappers. Oh Chris Brown and go get them hands? Oh yeah yeah. J Cole though he is so he is really a discription. He wrote a Remember remember the whole letting nods dout? You let him down again, Jay, you're letting eyes down again. Jay. I like Jake, but that is the past. Leave the past in the paste. This passionately and because his family got New York Times, they feel this, you know, a hip hop They don't play this is the spirit of hip hop? Though, how could you do this? How you always talk about if anybody get out there? I'm done, Yes, I do. I actually have a very interesting topic. And so I'm gonna give the topic and then I'm gonna give my input and y'all can do. But whatever you may with that. So I and foremost I do not know how to pronounce this girl's dang name. So Aoki, we don't go with that. Aoki Lee Simmons. So that's Russell Simmons' daughter. Okay, it's his youngest daughter. So she's twenty one years old. She's very beautiful, but she's very child mind, like you know what I mean, Like she she just she's still young minded, you know what I mean. So she was dating a sixty five year old man, and it's it's at first, I want to say, this blows my mind a little bit because I have a niece who is going on twenty one years old, and I will kick her. Listen, I'm so glad my niece is so just. She'd she'd be into books, going to school and out the way. I couldn't even I would mess her up. But I don't, you know, that's no, No, twenty one years old dating a sixty five year old man. So I do want to say, yup, yup, We're gonna just go with that, just you know, exclamation three of them exclamation marks. Ew. I can't even imagine trying to kiss that man. I cannot, no. And only she was like trying to get him to stop at certain stores and like get certain foods, and they were like out of the country, and like the way she was asking and he was totally disregarding it, like laughing and just like oh he he. And he's got a strong accent and it's just like, cis you over here trying to have a sugar daddy, and you ain't even getting the sugar, you know. Like they ended up splitting up obviously within that week, and it's probably because she didn't get what she wanted, but or he got what he wanted one of those two ways. But I will say this, there is I personally would say there should be a certain set limit on an age group. And even if people say, like as far as dating, you know what I mean? But people say like, oh, she's twenty one years old, she's grown. I had a friend he was commenting on the post and I seen his comment and I was like, I'm like, now, come on, now, like if we're gonna be anything, let's be for real. Like she's a young girl. She still has a child mind, she still has a lot of things to learn to be dating somebody of that age. And he's like basically saying, like she's an adult. That's just too consenting adults dating And you know it doesn't matter, No, it really does, it really does. She still don't know anything. How do I know that? Because my niece is twenty years old. I'm teaching my niece how to learn about credit, building credit and how to drive and how to catch RTA buses to get to work and all this stuff. I'm teaching her about this and cars like so, no, no, it's not she's still a child. Well, I mean, the loss says she's an adult. Her mind and her body looks like she's a damn twelve year old. F out of here. No, I'm not approving it. I'm just saying. I mean, it is legal, I'm not. I don't approve it. I don't condone it. I'm just say, your man got to take a pill every time y'all go to you know. Oh uh, I'll tell you what you think about this. It's a very very big age gap, and of course it's an uncomfortable age gap. But there could be some maybe like a financial arrangement or of course, you know, so you know, in that case, I don't judge just because I mean, like listen, man too, consenting adults. I'm not a moralist when it comes to you know, I don't as long as that is, as long as they are legal. She's not a child, that's right, I mean legally aid you know in twenty one. Hey, y'all just be safe and that's it, you know what. You know what's wild though, it's like he can still obviously he can still get her pregnant. Of course listen, and you know what I kept thinking, who was the one? Was it Mariah the scientist? Was it her where she said? I might be wrong. I apologize if I got the wrong person. But he's talking about daddy. Am I your baby? I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine. So this young girl talking to this old man. Hell no, and then your baby. Daddy's so old, like he gonna die before the baby even born, like come on. Yeah. But at the same time, though, I mean, women don't say much when the cougars be going to get the boy toys and all of that. Oh I do, I do? And listen a mother of an Okay, it's really all depends. It really really all depends. Like it really all depends on the age gap. Like I won't I won't butt in, or I won't say anything to a particular age you know what I mean, Right, I'll be talking about sixty five year old Yeah, of course, I mean this is absurd, But twenty one years old dating sixty five year old woman. I'm a crack jokes on him every day all day. Now, now let me ask you this before before we move on. All right, Dante, if you did not want kids, because I know you want kids, If you did not want kids, would you mess with a cougar? Uh? Probably probably not. What's the what is a cougar for me? I mean, I'm they would be probably mid to late like late forties, early fifties. No, probably not. No, Well, you know if I didn't want children, Yes, if you did not want children, baby, she would have to be I mean if she depended on what she you know, what she looked like, personality, all that type of stuff. But yeah, maybe if I didn't like if I didn't want children, Yeah, you a man? Old you asking amndess though, man gonna say yes, not necessarily think about it. He's not guaranteed, so if I exactly, But I mean, listen, let me mind my I just thought it'd be an interesting question. I really actually have a friend that's the same friend that commented on that post. I've actually known him for years. I've known him for years well so to speak, social media have known him. Well anyway, he is I think he's about my age, and he actually dates cougars. He dates older woman. He prefers them like granny old, like old, and I'm like, I'm je you, but I'm you know, do what you do? Like that's cool, that's weird. I would, I would if if she was fine and I didn't want kids. Like the big sticking point for me is that I want kids. So it just gets to a point where even if you find as a cougar just biologically, you know, that's a problem. I mean, they can have them. They're just gonna be old when it gets it gets what thats when I say, it gets to a certain point where it just don't work no more unless they hit menopause. Then you did an't no good? Right, That's all right, you know what I mean. So so yeah, so that's that's different. But if I didn't want you, if I didn't want kids, I consider messing with the cougar. Y'all hear that. Y'all hear that. But I mean, I you want kids. Therefore that's not an option for me because I do want kids. If I did not want kids, yes, I would consider it, because some of these cougars be bad. I ain't gonna lie, you know what I'm not even gonna lie to you. I have one particular friend, she's one of my model sisters, and I can tell you she is absolutely gorgeous, Like she looks very very young. She looks like because her hair is like silver. But she she is just perfect in every aspect and it looks like she just dyed her hair that color. And I'm like, girl, you are bad. That's that's awesome. Go ahead, bad but but bad, bad, bad, That's what I'm talking about. All right, last thing before we go to break the the eclipse. Did you watch it? What did you do? Where were you at? It was? So, you know what? I was actually at work before Rate before it as it was starting, and I hurry, even grabbed the kids snacks and grabbed them juice and Mommy's juice, and you know what juice I grabbed. But and you know, I Harry think came home. I knew I wouldn't going to make it nowhere else. The sun is usually shining like rate perfectly where I'm at, And it was awesome. I can tell you, it was the most magical thing. Like that's the best I can explain it. My eyes actually started watering up during the eclipse because I'm a nature nerd naturally judge me if you judge me, if you may. But I absolutely loved it, except accept the part where Darky all got to tell you this party right. So my daughter mind mind you, all the listeners. She is ten years old, okay, so she's at that preteen stage and she occasionally, she'll try, she'll try with the little the little attitude occasionally, but she know who her mama is. During the eclipse, while the moon was passing, and she says something smart to me, I said, who the hell are you talking to You must have thought that was your brother speaking and he's sitting there outside as the moon is passing, right, and she goes you. I said, oh, no, you ain't talking to me, and then she gets smart again. I said, girl, wait till it is Wait till this moon pass over the sun, wait this wait, wait till this moon passed. I had to sit there and I had to tell myself, Robin, everybody's emotions are going to be all over the place right now because of the eclipse. It'll cause people to either just you know, be very moody, just emotional, angry or tired. And I had to remember that, so I had to take a step back, but it was. It was absolutely amazing, Dante, did you see it? Yeah, I was at work, and uh, we went outside. I spent maybe a better part of an hour just watching it get dark and watching it, you know, feeling it get cold outside, and then you know, putting the glasses on it, and finally, you know, we were at the full eclipse, saying like wow, this is this is really really cool, like really really cool. I went outside without a jacket, and I didn't realize that it was gonna get that cold, and so I yeah, that was the only the only negative. I knew it would get dark, I knew, but I didn't know it was gonna get cold and obvious. I mean I should have write the sun was blocked out, so of course you know it would the temperature were cool. But all in all, man, it was actually a really cool experience. I had missed, like the partial clips that we had in twenty seventeen, I think it was I missed that one. But this, I mean, this was actually really really incredible, once in lifetime experience. And yeah, man, just for like those ten minutes, it gets midnight pitch black, and then all of a sudden you know, we're back like nothing ever happened like that. That was it was really really cool, really really cool. So I saw a little bit of it. I was out of town obviously, so it wasn't as like you had full I forget what they called it, but you were able to see it fully up here in Cleveland. I was able to see it partially, but I did see it. It got all dark and everything, and you know, one of the things I think it made me think about that an important PERSPECTI give that. I don't think I hear enough people saying when it comes to things like this, is that event should show the miraculousness of creation, because it's it's damn near mathematically numerically impossible for what happened to happen, and it still happened. And I think sometimes, man, you know, everybody's always talking about the sun and the moon and the stars and all of this, and people get so caught up in the creation, they fall in love with the creation instead of the Creator. And I think it was just seeing that was just another reminder to me of God's brilliance of how vast the Uni verse actually is and how big it is, especially like when you're learning about how many miles, like the distance from the Sun to the moon and all those different things, how far away they actually are, and to be far away enough to not like for the sun, to be far away enough to not burn everything up, but still be close enough to be able to give us sunlight, you know what I mean. It's just and then you know, with the moon, and then and how the like. It's miraculous the way like. And it's just amazing to me that people would think that all of these things just just happen by chance, that all of these are just happy coincidences. You know. I think that people are really missing the boat, and they're really missing the value of what they saw when they focus solely on the creation and missed the fact that there was a creator of that creation. To me, it was just it just showed the marvelousness and the brilliance and the creativity of God, of the creator of the universe to have something like that happen that you know, I've seen meteorologists say it's almost it's almost mathematically and numerically impossible for an eclipse to happen. It has to like the sun and the moon has to hit at the exact right spot at the exact right time for this thing to happen, and it's it's miraculous, you know what I mean. I saw it was. It was so sad. It was one of these astrologer influences, if you want to call them that, that's what they call themselves. I guess who saw the eclipse and saw it was and they had got they had went down the road of like all these crazy conspiracy theories and all of that, and they were like, you know, this is the apocalypse, this is the end. And and they you know, you could tell they were in the like spiritualism and they called and all that, and they ended up killing a family like it was a murder suicide door again yeah yeah, on the highway and killed her man and killed herself and all of this. And it's like, man, not only is that tragic, but it's it's a it's a warning. I think, who always make sure that we have balance in the perspective. The creation is beautiful. The creation is beautiful. If you ever been outside at night and a time like where it's a clear sky and you can see all the stars and stuffautiful, It's beautiful when it's quiet Oh, it's absolutely beautiful. It is. It is magnificent, you know what I mean, Like it's absolutely beautiful when you see a friend of mine was an airplane today and they took a picture of them being on the other side of the clouds, like above the clouds, Like it's beautiful, absolutely beautiful, Like this earth, this creation is amazing mm hmm. But I also think we have to make sure that we keep things in perspective. When I see that beauty and when I see that logistic nature, I think about the marvelous, Like how marvelous and how brilliant and how creative the creator it is, because it's in like people act like believing that these things were created is some out there theory, when it's like, no, it's the out there theory is believing that all of this stuff just happens by accident, Like that's that's absurd, the thing that all of these sorts of things just happens. So when I look at when I see things like the eclipse and and just the earth in general, just the natural just nature, natural earth in general, it's just to me, it's just a reminder of God's brilliance. That's what I see. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network where Real Talk lifts this. It is online at fcbpodcasts dot com.