Ep. 297 - Golden Rules and Political Fools with Jim Verdi of The Dan Bongino Show

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So this means I put aside the regular format and I get to invite a guest on and we get to talk about whatever we want to talk about. And today is a really, really big guess is a really special day. A lot of you guys are good. He's already rolling his sides. A lot of you guys are going to recognize this name, and you're gonna know why he's so special to me. I am excited to introduce Jim Verdie, who is the producer for the Dan Bongino Show, and he has become a good friend of mine over the years. As you guys know, Bongino has been a huge supporter of this show. He has been a huge supporter of me and my career, and the JLTY audience loves Dan and so you might not see behind the scenes, but behind this behind every great radio host is a great producer, and behind Dan, Jim and Jim, it's also been a wonderful producer for me. So Jim, welcome to just listen to yourself. Thank you, Kira. It's good to be in California. I've been meaning to make it out there, so thanks for having me. That's cheating, Jim, This is cheating because you're only you're only zooming in. It doesn't count. You're gonna have to grab your passport and cross the border for it to count. Right, It's true. So, speaking of California. Things things went pretty well out there, I think during the election, like shockingly good in California, like we weren't going to win it, but geez, things are happening or you know what, what did? What is your position from where you're at on the. Ground, Jim, First of all, this is my show. What's happening here? No, No, it's fine. No, you're absolutely right, big big deal. I know you and Dan have been talking about it, and I definitely I want to get Jim's. Heart to talk with this book. He's got a lot of juicy stuff, and I want to get to what's going on with you guys this last week because it's been an exciting week, but just to fill you in on what's going on in California. Uh, hell yeah, we did not expect it really was a red tsunami in California. I want to. This is I'm glad you brought this up because I haven't explained this to my listeners yet. I want to explain actually a little bit about what happened here in California, not to pour cold water on it, but just to give everybody perspective. Basically, what's happened in California. Is that we've reverted to where we were pre twenty twenty. So twenty twenty and twenty twenty two came, and frankly, I believe there was cheating in both. We lost Orange County here that was red. You know, Jim, because I was on the Dan Bongo Show every month when I was running in twenty twenty two, trying to flip our school board. Red, all that flip blue. The Democrats came in and executed this amazing plan, and so a lot of the red stuff you're seeing in California is most of it's just reverting to what it was. Before, which is good. That's what we want. But I do think most certainly it is a cause for celebration because it is proving a that the majority is I don't think is it's not what the Democrats and b even Californians can be pushed too far. Our school board, Jim, I texted you our school board flipped red this year. Finally I didn't get an a part of that, but I'm still happy. So that's what's going on. That's still a major accomplishment, though, because that's one of the that's where it all starts. When you get the school boards, and you can fix the schools, you fix the education system, then you can stop the indoctrination. Right, that's key. So that's a big deal. Yeah, And as you know, Jim, I'm sure Dan's been talking about it. Newsome very healthily immediately stepp up to form a task force to protect us against Donald Trump, and so he's, yeah, I don't know our governor's gonna Our governor's gonna protect us from the big bad Orange man that California overwhelmingly voted for. Even if he comes in under fifty percent here, I don't care, because La San Diego and San Francisco do not friggin count. Everybody keeps talking about the trump proofing thing. The White House is talking about it, These governors are talking about it. Local's talking about it. I don't even know what that means, though. How do you trump proof something? They basically, in my opinion, the way I'm figuring it out in my head right now, is the only way to trump proof something is to actually go against federal law or go against local law. So breaking the law, you know, not abiding by federalism that's spoken for in the Constitution. That's the only way you can trump prove something is by actually doing illegal things. It makes no sense. They don't ever seem to learn. Some of them come around. We played a few clips on the show today, like Charlemagne, you know, famously after the election he said, Wow, this is so weird all of a sudden, he's not a Nazi and a fascist anymore. You just I don't understand that because maybe they weren't telling the truth after all, you know, Bill Maher the same way. These are all, you know, celebrity type people. Van Jones even even gets it a little bit. We played a bunch of these clips on the show today and it's like some of them get it, and I don't know if it's that's because it's a money thing, and that's what Dan had said. It's like they make their living off of getting donations and everything, so they have to they have to do a come to Jesus or a self reflection. But a lot of them are just too insane that they're not going to do it. And I don't know, to see real change, we got to it more that first part of those people to win, to come over, to think, to at least actually think. That is the million dollar challenge. Getting people to think, which is what we do here on just listening to yourself. It is literally why I started this show, for people to think. And so I'll get in to that you guys on the regular show this week, because I actually have a lot to say about what we're about to face and the attitude we need to face it with moving forward. But Jim, you mentioned playing some clips on the show today, and you're the producer for the Dan Bongino Show. You actually have a book. You actually wrote a book about this. It's called The Damn Bongino Survival Guy, The Dan Bongino Show Survival Guide, Crazy Stories, Hidden Messages. And Golden Rules, and it's full of all of the. Stories you have learned and earned as a Bongino producer. But let me ask you. This Bongino to me and I think quite literally, he really has stepped up to fill Rush Limball's legacy. I mean he's in that timeslot literally, But also, you know, he reminds me of Rush so much. And one of the things that was great about Rush is he had a lot of enemies in the audience and a lot of crazy people showed up on his show and outside the show, and he always handled it with. Such great, such class and such good humor. What what have you learned. About Dan's approach to these to these same kind of things, because he gets it a lot. And Dan has the added benefit of social media, which Rush really did not have. Even when social media came up, Russia didn't engage. Dan's out there every day going back and forth with people. So he's he's definitely different than Russi. And he'll tell you that as a matter of fact. That's one of his pet peeves is when people will message him on Facebook because he reads all the messages, or if they respond to him on social media say hey, you're no Rush, and that's the first thing he'll say is I know I'm not Rush, and I wish I didn't have to be here, but they are. That's what I think makes him so good in this slot is he's he is different, but in a very good way as well, because I think he's different for the time, Like, you can't replace Rustling, but it's impossible, there's no way. I started listening to Rush in nineteen ninety two and that was like a political awakening. It's like where I knew I already thought things, but I never heard them articulated it anywhere, and I'm like, wow, this guy totally gets it. And then you know, listen to the guy for thirty something years and you know, unfortunately he passes away, and who's going to replace him. Dan is a guy who's not going to sh shy away from a challenge, and he knew somebody had to step into the breach and he thought he was the guy that did that, that could do it. Now, he does things a whole lot differently than Rush. Rush, I would say was more. He would lay the story out a little bit more. He'd walk walk you through it. He always brought the receipts, and like you said, he did it with good humor. With Dan, Dan is more, uh, And he'll tell you he's an he's an activist first and he takes that approach to doing the radio show and he's very serious and his humor is different and he's definitely more intense than what that what Rush is. But uh, that makes it a good thing because I think for today's times, this is exactly what we need. You have to get that intensity out there, you have to make people relax. You have to grab him by the lapels and say you got to listen to this because we're losing the freaking country man. It's and I think that's what he's able to accomplish with what he does on the radio show, and uh, he can do it with humor. And I'm a proud I'm proud to help in that aspect. I'm a lot more reserved, I'm a lot more behind the scenes kind of guy, and I like to bring the humor. I'll do a lot of parody stuff that I give to him and everything. And we have a lot of bits, and that's what the whole book was about, by the way, is we have so many of these little bits that we do each week during the show that people who don't tune in regularly may not get them. So he's like, you need to put something together and do that. You need to write something, and so the audience will know in case they're new, and even if they're not new, they'll know exactly what's going on. So that was a whole impetus behind the book. You said you were reserved and you're kind of like a behind the scenes guy, but you're like in this very hot kitchen. I mean, it really doesn't get bigger than the damp on Geno's show. So that means like the bigger, the personality, a crazier the people on both sides. Of the fence. By the way, I'm not letting conservatives. I talked to some pretty crazy. Sure, it is out there on both sides of the fence. You yourself are going to have to be that screen between the show or between Dan himself sometimes and the crazy person. As a reserved guy. A, were you prepared to handle that level of crazy? And B? Have you changed your approach over the years to these people? No, I haven't changed my approach. I've always been the same. And you say, how did you get here to deal with the crazy? Well, the previous job that I had before working on the Dan Bongino Show really prepared me for that. That was another national talk show host, famous national talk show host, and I refer to him in the book as he who shall not be named. So I'm going to just stick with that right now. But all you got to do is a quick search of my career a little bit and you'll find out who that person is. But I don't like to even mention his name, but that seven years really prepared me for very very challenging situations. Okay, let's just put it that way, like extremely challenging situations. So that's kind of what prepared me for this as far as audience or anything like that. I'm a kid from Brooklyn. I've lived in Texas for forty something years, but I grew up in Brooklyn, New York, and that kind of gives you a pretty thick skin to begin with, and I can take whatever anybody has to dish out. You know, I don't like it when people come after my family. I think that's how a bounds. But come after me all day and dance a New York kid too, so we can both handle our stuff. And that's the kind of attitude that we bring to this thing. You know. Whereas Rush was a Midwest kind of guy from Cape Gerard and Missouri, we're both New York City kids and so it's like, come on, bring it. I like that though. It's one of the things I find attractive about the show, and when I when I'm honored enough to guest host it, you see it in the audience or hear it. I just say it's radio, but you hear it in the audience. When the audience calls, it's like you know this is a Bongino listener. They're as intense as he is. But I think a lot and I'm gonna I'm gonna pull you back to last week because I want some inside scoop. So but uh it, not to be too sickophanic about it, but in a way, it's like Trump, you know, to me, it's a he's a man for his time. Trump's a man for his time. Like you said, We're two New York guys who are just like we gotta tell it like it is. And I just think we went through that horrific eight years of fake diplomacy from Obama really set us. We were just exhausted, and. Then they shoved another four down our throat when we really weren't asking for it. And I do think this this is a time when people. Are starving for direct communication and for direct truth. They're starving to hear it, and guys like Dan and you, Jim and you fill in over there on the Bongino Show, a lot you guys deliver it. But I think that's what the time that we're in. I think that's what people voted for last week. Right, No, you're exactly right. Dan's always said is it bad enough. Yet that's when we know that there's going to be a change. Well, this election, it looks like it was bad enough, because when I think what they said, twenty five hundred counties shifted to the right in the country. That's a heck of a lot of people. And then you're talking about down ballot winning the Senate big time. And I still think we got ripped off in Wisconsin. There's evidence of that right now, and most likely Nevada and Arizona as well. Sam Brown was real close and Kerry Lake. The Shenanigans with the counting in Arizona is just freaking ridiculous. But whatever. But yes, I think it's to the point where people are saying it's bad enough. We've been putting up. You bring up an excellent point with the eight years of Baraco Obama, where we had the slowest recovery economic recovery in American history. It was not robust at all. And then we go into Trump where the economy just went gangbusters. And then Joe Biden blatantly and for everybody to see, cuts out all Trump's executive orders. We opens the border wide open, closes the spigot on independent energy in the country and we got what we got where we went to nine nine percent inflation and noo, they're bragging about it being oh, it's only two point four. It's like, no, we're still paying twenty to thirty percent more on everything. Go into a grocery store, I can't see a dozen eggs for four dollars and fifty six cents, you know, for a dozen eggs. Give me a break with that. People have had enough, they wanted, they wanted to get back. And the exciting thing to me about what happened last week is you brought a coalition of people who are not Republicans, not even necessarily conservatives, but just very pragmatic people who love the country, respect the constitution, want to get back to those ideals, and they have the means and ability to do it. Like your Elon Musk, like your rfks, like even your Joe Rogan's. You know, these are the kind of people that we're bringing the Tulsa Gabbard, you know, we're bringing these people into our coalition, people that actually have sense, common sense, and want to get back to American ideals. You know what we were built on, how we became a successful country back the first president I got the pleasure to vote for was Ronald Reagan. And Ronald Reagan that shift in the country at the time was mass too. It was a lot like this wave, but the country was a lot different. The country was still very pro American for the most part. It was just how to make it successful. And we were coming out of the nineteen seventies, which was an absolute disaster with Jimmy Carter, and before that, you know, the economy was in chambers, Inflation was worse, interest rates were horrible. It was just Jimmy Carter gave the famous Malaise speech, in which he never said the words malaise, but that was what it was about, and that was a country you had a bad feeling. With Reagan, it was just you felt so freaking good. I haven't felt that good until last week. I mean, we did a live podcast. It was I think it was the biggest streamer in the country on Tuesday night and the biggest live stream and we were so exhausted because of all the work that we had done all week and leading up to that, that by Friday we were so wiped out, but still on such a hahai that it was like, I can't believe this is happening. I'm really sensing that we have an opportunity here to make some absolutely real and meaningful change, and I think it is absolutely going to happen. I believe it. I believe it's going to happen. I do too. I like the moves Trumps taking in this time around. He seems ready to get back down to business, like right away, hit the ground running because he's only gonna have four years, so we got stuff to do. Have you and Dan been in contact with the Trump team? Were you out there? I mean, I know you guys are broadcasters, so the communication has to be limited because. There's rules for all that kind of stuff. But have you guys been talking to anybody inside the Trump camp. Not inside the Trump campaign? No, not at all. We've talked to We've talked to people like secondary and tertiary to that, people like we've had Rick Scott on a couple of times, trying to push him since that's the guy need to be the Senate leader. It's like, is Rick Scott perfect? Not perfect? But out of the three people that are running, yes, definitely won him. All you have to do is look at the liberty scores from Conservative Review personally for me. Take it from me, John Cornyn. I'm in Texas. We'll never vote for that guy again. Can't believe I voted for him before. He's just completely let us out. That guy can be nowhere near leadership. But Rich Scott, I think will do it. He said he would. He said that he would advance the make America Great Again agenda. And I'm saying that. I want to say MAGA because they're making maga bad word. But MAGA is making America great again, and that is what's going to happen, and that's what needs to happen. I believe this is the agenda that will make it happen. I do so. No, we haven't necessarily talked to anybody inside. They're so busy right now. It's it's just really hard to get a hold of anybody. So yeah, but yeah, and obviously, but I do. That does make me think about the role that conservative I hate to even call it conservative media, but right of center media or non legacy media has played in this election. I was looking at. Of course, we know now Trump's showing up on the podcasters like Rogan and Theo Vaughn. That was huge. It's amazing. It's amazing to me. The Democrats own the industrial entertainment complex and they could not replicate that type of success. But it's also huge. I know you guys talked about this, and I know you've even been tweeting about it, Jim. But the ladies, the Harpy's. On the view coming out and talking about how we need to shut down social media. We need to, we need Elon needs. His toice taken away because they now we have this whole group of people who can just say whatever they want and go find the audience that they want and there's no one to stop them. And I really do think and I'm not just saying this because I'm biased because we love the Dan Bongino Show. Here a guilty why, but. I do think there is something really important to be said for the rise of conservative media and the role that big conservative broadcasters like Bongino and others who we will not name out of respect for for our chief Bongino. No, but but others, of course, I'm just being silly, but others they paid huge broadcasting. Has played a huge role in this victory. I believe. FCB faith is your rhythm and preystation. I listen. My mom listens pretty much the whole family. You love me, I don't, don't I know, Jill come trot know. Listen to FCB Faith on iHeartRadio Odyssey at fcbfaith dot com, or tell your smart speaker to play EPCB Faith on iHeartRadio. Right, I mean, we're not We're not the show. I mean of anybody I've ever worked with in the business who does like to protect like that, well, don't mention the other guy. Damn won't. He'll be happy the other guy because we're all we're all working together towards a common thing. But you said something really important. I think it was the non legacy media, and I think that's what it needs to be referred to as it is something big and it's something rising. Now we can do it and we're on the right, we'll admit that. But then you have like the podcasts that you had mentioned, Rogan, theo Vaughn, what it else to go, Lex Friedman, who else? Logan? There were sels. These are not right wing people, but what they do is they reach an audience. I can't remember which podcast it was that. I think it was THEO Vaughn's that JD Vance went on and they had put up a tweet with all the comments underneath. As the podcast is going on, and it's all these these lefties who were like, they kept telling me, this guy's weird. He's not weird. It's like one of the most normal dudes I've ever seen in my life. And it's like it was dawning. I mean that that's why it all worked, because the people actually got to see it instead of hearing. And that's why the legacy media is so pissed because they're absolutely loose. That's why they went the centers to implement the censorship industrial complex. It's because they're losing their power. Read one story today, CNN looks like they're going to be firing some of their major anchors just because there's no point in paying them anymore because or that much money anymore, because nobody's listening to them. Just saw the MSNBC ratings are down massively anywhere on each show, between thirty five and fifty percent down. People aren't there tuning out because they people have seen they've been being lied to, and they're not going to be lied to anymore. And not only are they not going to be lied to anymore, but they actually have places to go where they can actually get real, first hand proof. It's like, you don't even need somebody to tell you jd Vance said this. It's like you go watch him on the thing and say it, and watch the whole three hour long podcast and get it all in context. You don't need that anymore. You don't need them anymore. It's a threat handling candle. No, they can't handle it at all. This is another great change in the country. I love that, Queen. I love the point you just made, Jim about jd Vance because when I was watching the vice presidential debate last month, or when last year, last month, last decade, I don't know. I'm like, it's meaningless right now. I feel like we've been go through like. A ten year war. But my daughter, seventeen, somewhat interested in politics, about as interested in, you know, partisanship as any seventeen year old, walked in and she saw she saw jd Vance and Tim Wallas. She knew who they were because she sees them on TikTok and stuff like that. She sat and watched a couple of minutes of the debate with me before she headed out to do cooler things. With cooler people. And when she before she walked out the door, I said, what did you think about what you saw? And she said, well, I can't believe that that's the same guy that I watch all the TikTok people complain about. I thought he was supposed to be weird. She he seems pretty normal to me. Like that's that's what's the one comment she made before walking out the doors. I think you're absolutely right about that. These these types of media are also a conduit to normal people. Guess what, My daughter does not watch The View, My son does not watch the View. My twenty two year old son does not watch no Van Jones on CNN, but he watches THEO Vaughn. He shures how he watches. Rogan and they and they probably get a lot from TikTok and all these other platforms. I don't know if they're on Twitter X or you know, probably not Facebook. That's probably for old people like me, but that that's what they're on and that's where they're getting news from. Is are those types of platforms, and that's why it's changing. It's podcasts, it's live streams, it's it's this social media complex and not you know, like TikTok, I don't get it because of the whole Chinese spyware thing, but I probably should get on it because it's important to see what's going on on platforms like that, especially for what we do. We have to know exactly what people are saying. But these people are losing their grip. It's a wonderful thing to see. We had a fantastic week last week, and I just have high hopes for a bright future. I know the picks by President Trump are coming out now for who he's going to have in his cabinet and everything. I don't know even what to think about anything. Some of them haven't even been confirmed unless you see it on his truth social don't even take it as in the bank, because let him state it, don't let the media. The media is wrong all the time about it, and they're probably trying to influence the whole process anyway by pushing forward a candidate and it's like, no, that's not that, and then there's just going to be pressure to put that person. And I don't think he's going to bend to the pressure anymore, but he is going to be looking for loyal people to to be able to advance the agenda and to be able to do it quickly. So I think that's what's going on. But I'm not worried about it. It's like we say all the time on the radio show and on the podcast, it's like, you use these people like tools, not you know, in the sense of a Keith Oberman or you know, Jim Acosta. That not that kind of tool. The kind of tool is a useful thing to where it can help you build the where you want to go. And if the tool isn't working, you get rid of the tool and you get a new one, you get a different one. That's That's the way you have to look at these people. Don't put personalities into it. Don't listen to what they say. What they do, that's all that's important. And that's something to explain to a friend of mine who's a Republican. He's actually does he works in a Republican writing and producing Republican ads, and he was like, tell me why I should vote for Trump. Man. I mean, I'm going to vote for Trump, but man, I really don't want to. And that's exactly what I explained to him, saying, don't worry about what he says. It's what he does and a lot of things like people don't know about Donald Trump is he's one of the most generous, generous, loyal people that you could be around. I've never met the man personally, but from Dan's story, the one that he always tells over and over again is that when Dan got his cancer diagnosis, he's sitting there, you know, contemplating if he's going to live much longer, in a doctor's office, and his phone rings and it's Donald Trump. The only guy who called him and said, are you doing okay? Do you need anything? He didn't have to do that. I mean, he definitely was in a position where he didn't have to do that. That's the only guy that called him. That's the kind of guy Donald Trump is. Everything they tell you about him is just nonsense. A lot of it pretty much is just him being a New York guy, you know, in the public in the public eye. I think that's more than what it is. But definitely a big heart, definitely a good guy, and if you know, you're loyal to him. Another perfect example is when they did the podcast President Trump Did Dance Podcast just a few weeks ago. Donald Trump, when he walked in the room. The first thing he did was he went over to the team and introduced himself to the team, you know, Dan's podcast producers, and talked about them, asked their name, said hello, and then he went and sat down. It's just the kind of guy he is. It's little things like that when you can figure out a person's personality. Yeah, I don't know why I'm selling you on this. We already voted for him. I'll say this. I'll say this to hearing that story about Dan and Trump and the cancer diagnosis. Last year, my father passed away and they had to go out to the Boston area for the funeral. I was sitting there with my aunt and uncle. My dad's brother, who's a huge Dan Bongeno fan. They love Dan Bongino. It's like I've literally created two human beings. And the most important thing I've ever done in my life to them is guest hosts the Dan Bongino Show like they are they are, so they get so tickled by it. And so my uncle we were drinking. After the funeral. We're getting pretty toasted, and my uncle was, you know, saying how he had heard me on the Bongino Show recently, and he started talking about I love Dan, and you know, I think my brother would have really loved Dan if he if he had just my dad was kind of making his way over to the right before he died, and he's like, I. Think he would have he would have really loved Dan. And I was like yeah. I was like, yeah, he probably would have. And I was like, well, you know, let me just text. You in and let him know that you said you're a big fan, and maybe he can just send you a little shout out just to encourage you. I texted, Dance, Damn, my dad just died. I'm sitting here with my uncle. He's real broken up. He's a big fan. Would just text him a high gerald. He was like, I'll do better than that. I'm in a restaurant. I'm gonna get up and go outside. I'll call you. So he left his dinner table, oh wow, but outside and called my uncle to express his condolences and just to encourage him. That's the damn Bongino I know. So it doesn't. Surprive me that that's exactly who he is. He's one of the best people I know. He always, you know, says I'm not a good person. I'm like Yeah, you're You're one of the best people, So stop stop beating you, Jim. I don't want to pick up too much of your time. And this really isn't the damp Bongino like fan show. This is actually about Jim. He's written a book. By the way, let's talk. Let's bring that back up, the Dan Bongino show, Survival Guy, Crazy Stories, Hidden Meetings, and Golden Rules. Before I let you go, I want to gold this title, what's a crazy story from your time as a producer that you share in the in the in the book. So the Crazy Stories basically comes from the Goofy Glue Incidents chapter and Dan named him that after what was the what was the Kirk Cameron series Growing Pain? Apparently he had watched it a lot. I didn't watch it much, but they had something on there they referred to as from time to time as the Goofy Glue incident. They never describe what it was, but they all were like, oh, we can't ever talk about that. So our goofy glue incidents are basically technical meltdowns which we've had like a bunch and I go into a lot of detail into how they happened, but I don't know. Do we ever have a goofy glue, Kira. I don't think we ever did. I think we were. Yeah, we've been fine, but I've had them. First show you filled in for, I think you lost your feed. No, the first show he lost his feet and you had to. Just out of nowhere, get on the air and host the most listened to radio in America. That was like one of them. That was one of them. When he was in North Carolina and we're doing a show and then I'm listening in my headphones and I hear this crackling sound like something's burning, and then he's gone, and I'm like, Okay, well we have technical difficulties and we'll be right back and have to go to a break and find out what happens in the com Rex unit, which is a unit we used to connect on a remote, like I'm here in Texas and he's wherever he is, we connect on that. Apparently it just completely burn up. And then they were trying to install another one and they couldn't get it installed. He had to do the rest of the show on a cell phone. And there was another, you know, another one. When he's up at the Fox Studios, in New York and we're doing a show and he's in the middle of a sentence and he disappears, and I'm having to scramble to figure out what to do, and we've got we've only got like four minutes to figure it out in a break, to figure out what to do next. And you know, on that one, it's like here he is at Fox they're setting up for the Patriot Awards. There's you know, it's a massive complex. They have tons of engineers and everything. But for some reason, this catering company came in and just decided to pull out a random plug which just happened to be that plugged in all our equipment. And it's like, you got to be kidding me. I describe it a lot better. It's a lot funnier in the book, but that that's an example of what some of those crazy stories are lots of or the incident I've like. I have, be it radio or TV. A lot of people have no idea the craziness like it's really a lot of it is held together just with with glue and tape prayer. It really is, especially well, especially now the way it's done, Like he in Florida, I'm in Texas. I have to connect through Denver to get the show to go out through the whole country. So all that technology, We're lucky it works every day. I mean, think about that. That's kind of amazing. It is kind of amazing, and I think another reason for the rise of conservative media. We don't have to be in the hubs anymore. We can be where we where we want to be, and it's good for us. What about hidden meanings Jim have? What are some I'm not sure, I mean, I don't want to spoil too much, but what are some hidden meanings that maybe you've discovered? No, so what I'm referring to as far as that are, like, we have a set of golden rules on the show and several of his theories, so like, as far as golden rules, will pick one. Like most Democrats on in Washington, d C. Are wait, most Republicans in Washington DC are Democrats, but no Democrats in Washington DC are Republicans, meaning they stick together no matter what. But people that are supposed to be on our side will just shift over to the other side once they get there because they get contaminated by whatever happens in the swamp and they just want to be, you know, part of the in crowd, part of the cool kids. You know. That's that's one. Another one is we think democrats are people with bad ideas. Democrats think we're bad people. You know. It's that's a big difference. So and then I go in and I kind of list reasons why those things happen as well. And then there's theories like the cannibalism theory about how the left will lead the left. And we're going to be seeing a lot more examples of the cannibalism theory coming up now in a new Trump administration, actually probably in the next couple of weeks, because they're going to be at each other's throats. They can't figure out what to do now. He got them on edge by already announcing all these policy proposals. They have no idea what to react to next. They don't even get it. They don't even get it. Jim, Like, I've been like watching the I know, I'm just preaching the choir, but I've been watching I have never watched this much CNN and MSNBC in my life, but I can't tear away. And but they they're having panel after panel after panel, U having these postmortems and what do we do, and every single conclusion is, well, America is just more racist than we thought. Like, they don't get it. It's like they've learned nothing. They're just misogynists. I mean, boy, we had no idea and they're and they're piling on and making it worse because man, we had no idea how misogynists and sexist those Hispanics were. It's like, Okay, that's really gonna go really far for you. Yeah, I can't. By the way, I think you should stop calling Latino and Hispanic voters the people who cook your food and clean your laundry. Like I've never heard a Democrat refer to a Hispanic voter as the people who heal the sick and teach our children and go to space. They don't describe any of them like that. Yeah, or you know, or building new gadgets to technologically make our country better. You know, the energy problem. People wipe your children's butts and cook your food. Oh, thank you so much, Scott. It's no wonder we voted against these people being. In charge, right, exactly right. It's uh, it's insane. It's insane that they say those words out of their mouth and they don't hear what it sounds like to normal people. That's why. And you look at them and you'll go. That's why this show. Just listen to yourself. Yes, yes, exactly. As a matter of fact, bring that up. That was one of the best moments of the whole cycle was when Martha Raddits told JD. Vance. He goes, it's not a big problem in Aurora, Colorado with all these gangs. It's it's just a couple of apartment companies. He said, would you just listen to yourself? That was one of the greatest lines of the entire campaign, too, was. Like, uh oh, yeah. So great as it was coming out of her mouth. She didn't understand exactly what she was saying. But they don't. That's the whole thing, isn't it. None of them do because none of them have been challenged. So to face a guy like JD. Vance, Donald Trump's an easier prospect because they've just painted him as hitler and he talked. He speaks so awkwardly anyway, a lot of people can sort of dance around that. But JD's certainly a lot more well spoked than he's younger, he's a lot more sarcastic, and for them to come face to face with that that you know, that's what happened to Kamela right when she started running. It's the California attitude, which is I'm never challenged. No one ever asks me a question. I'm never asked to back up my ideas. I've never asked for any accountability. So when someone finally does push back, I'm literally speechless. And that's why that's a big reason why Kamala loss. I mean, we're gonna it's not because of racism everyone, It's because she was not battle tested. And I would like Jim, I would like to remind everybody right now. I'm going to make a video about this later, but stop blaming us for rejecting, rejecting Camela, because y'all did it first. You didn't even get her to Iowa, so she's your reject, not ours. No, we went just think about this on a dime. From one day, she's got to get off the ticket, she's dragging Biden down, she's got the lowest approval rating and vice presidential history. The next day, oh, she's a savior. I mean, you want to talk about gas Lottie, Wait, we're gonna we're gonna forget what you said yesterday. Give me a freaking break. That's just insane. And that's the way. And the other thing about her that she didn't like you said, she doesn't get it because she's never been challenged, and so many of these people are never challenged. You can only answer so many times, I come from a middle class family to every single question before you know, people are gonna catch on and go, wait a second. This woman knows nothing, does she. She doesn't have an answer to a question at all on anything, and you know, the or being unburdened by what what what are you even talking about? So there was no substance there whatsoever. And the only thing that she could come up with was Oh, yeah, we're gonna give you more free money for houses and we're gonna legalize weed. So wow, that's a real strong message. There a real great vision for America. That's yeah, I can tell you. I don't think you know, there were no black men in this household who were impressed with. Her her offer of free weed or of weed. Uh. And also Barack Obama was not impraving. Is that anybody? Yeah, it was a total turnoff. It was a total total turn off. I just it's it is. It is stunning. Again just to circle back, and we're going to close this out here, but it is again, this is why we need truth tellers in the media, because you said it, Jim. It's amazing that they expected us to forget from one day to literally the next day, twelve hours later. But you guys said Joe Biden was the smartest person in America. You guys said Kamala Harris was the most qualified woman in America, but yesterday she wasn't. And that's why they want That's why the ladies of the view want Elon's toys take in a way, because there's people out here like you and Dan and all the other me all the other broadcasters out there who don't need their permission to tell the truth, and they can't just keep lying blatantly, and they're just so used to it they don't know what to do with themselves. No, and don't keep calling it misinformation and disinformation. An opinion or a way of thinking that is different from yours is not misinformation or disinformation. It's just different than yours. That's what people have to learn. I don't think anybody can accept that anymore. People have become so indoctrinated and they've put so much into their belief system. This is the difference between them and us. Goes back to what you said just a few minutes ago. They've never been challenged, and we've been challenged all the time. We have to always have sharp arguments because we're always challenged. People are always coming at us. So we've had to work at this. We can rebut arguments because we have to. They can't do it. They can't do it. They have to either call you a racist or a misogynist or whatever, or say it's misinformation and disinformation, you know, and they'll and meanwhile they'll twist things around which become actual disinformation, like for example in uh, you know, for example, in Trump's a law fair against him. You know, that's one example that happened that I can think of today where they keep talking about, well, you know, he's had thirty four convictions. It's good, be okay, what are the thirty four convictions? First of all, and they can't it's one it's one count that they what are they called stacking that they stacked into thirty four. But it's one thing and that's all it was. And it was basically two misdemeanors that they Frankenstein into a phony felony that nobody's ever done before that to this day, nobody even knows what the crime is. That he was found guilty for the underlying predicate of the crime that he supposedly committed. And listening to some of the law the law experts today that I trust they're saying, and I'm sure you can look this up very easily. He's not even a convicted felon yet. You're not a convicted felon until you're sentenced. So I think there's law one A one. But you know, what do I know? So they ran on the convicted felon thing. That was misinformation because he was not yet and he's still not actually, So there you go. And I think I saw somewhere where there was a state law that no convicted felon could run for president. Well there's a reason he could, because he wasn't a freaking convicted felain. They were hoping, they were hoping that he was. It was going to get there before I write. I don't know if you guys saw this, but I watched Morning Joe So the day after the election, I I. That was just but. He actually said with his mouth that it was an unfair advantage that Donald Trump had. Because he had the. Cameras trained on him exclusively for three weeks over the summer while he sat in a New York City courtroom, and so that was really an unfair advantage. Yeah, that was completely unfair. I mean they're putting, they're trying to put him in yail, and it's unfair. You put him there, what you didn't have to do, and all the cameras you put him there, he had nothing else to do. You literally made him a sitting target. These people deserve everything that's about to happen to. Them, absolutely absolutely, and you know, honestly, nothing bad is going to happen to them. They all think they're going to prison or some type of goolog and everything that that's not happening. Now, if somebody broke the law, maybe they should be prosecuted. Absolutely, do it. These are the rules. Now, you break the law, you go to jail. Sorry, that's just the way it is. But if nobody broke the law, then no, these people have nothing to worry about. They're just going to be mocked in ridicule. That's going to be their sentence. Yeah, that's going to be That's going to be what. They can't handle. That's really been the message of this whole election. If you ask me, what they can't handle is that America. And we've seen this on the right too, haven't We We've shed quite a few big thinkers on the right who used to be advocates for our values but turned on us when we turned towards Trump and then but it's this whole idea of these people don't listen to us anymore, and we're the thinkers, we're the important people. We know what's going on, and they don't listen to us, and that makes us not important. And you can't do anything worse to some of these people, you know, the Manhattan penthouse class. You can't do anything worse to them than to make them irrelevant. And that's what's about to happen. Yeah. And they just can't get past the fact that you know, his their moral principles allegedly. You know what's so principled about your stand I don't understand it. I'm talking about your Lincoln Project types, your Bill Crystal types, guys who come out in support who supposedly were conservative all these years, but yet come out in support of one of the most liberal people with some of the most dangerous policies that would destroy the country. And we're just and we're supposed to take you seriously because your feelings were hurt because Donald Trump hurt your feelings. Really, that's it. Get over your feelings. You know, those are the people I have no use for either. I can't stand those people. It's like, I, okay, you know, he wasn't my cup of tea in twenty sixteen, but I knew what I was getting with Hillary, so I voted for him, and you know what, I got one of the best presidencies in my lifetime. Well, we'll leave it there. Jim's book is called The Dan Bongina Show Survival Guide, Crazy Stories, Hidden Messages and Golden Rules. You can follow you are you Jay Verdi on Twitter? Ats at jj Verdi. Jj Verdi on Twitter X. Definitely go buy this book. There's a kindle version and a paperback. But there's lots of great stories, and I mean, it's just there's so much to learn from a huge show like that and a great guy like Dan, Jim, what else you want to leave the listeners with, where else they can find you, where they can hear you, all that good stuff. You've been filling in for Dan when he's not around. What else is going on? I'll be filling in this week for Dan again, probably around the holidays some more, and you know, just Twitter and truth same handle at j Day Verdie if you're interested. I appreciate you having me on. We've been talking about this for quite a while, but you know, things were bananas, so let's uh. I always appreciate you. You're great to work with. I love You're easy to work with, especially on the show, and I love working with you, so you're very much appreciated. I'd say we'd have a whiskey, but I don't know if you're you know, doing that anymore. But occasionally, yeah, but definitely. One one and. I get listen. Listen. It's a great time in America. So if if we are together soon enough, we will celebrate. Maybe I'll see you in the new Year for some of the events that conservatives have going on in. The I certainly hope, so that would be awesome. Yeah, No, Jim, I love you, guys. Wish you the best on the show this week. Thank you so much for stopping by God bless you. We are freaking back. He sign everybody, O Braiders all Mossolda Day, that we won't with bathe, then we won't to say, oh we gott it does. No one can take that owen. It gonna be okay? O Braiders all Mossolda, that. We won't with bathe, then we won't to say, oh we gott it does. No one can take that away. Don't made it, don't be okay. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network, where real Talk lifts visitors online at fcbpodcast dot com.