This is the FCNB podcast network. A press that we won't with Maath, then we won't to say, oh we got it? Does? No one can take that? Owen gonna be okay? Are that we won't with say then we won't to say oh we got it? Does? No one can take that? Owen, don't be okay? Hey, everyone, welcome to part two of my searing analysis of the article in the New York magazine about Republican women. But quick correction, I've been identifying the art article by the title I've been giving my podcast episodes, which is what is wrong with Republican Women? But the actual article is called a Republican Woman. Okay, So I just want to make sure that I clear that up. My bad. It's just misspeaking. But that is the name of the article, and I've been identifying it by the name I chose for my show. I apologize to Rebecca Tracer and New York Magazine and correction issued. Enjoy the show. Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Just Listen to Yourself with Kira Davis. I am your host, Kira Davis, and this is part two of our exploration into the fascinating article by New York Magazine writer Rebecca Tracer called What Is Wrong with Republican Women a seemingly innocuous title that doesn't give away the author's feelings at all about her ideological opposites. But I started just to recap quickly before we move forward with this. I began this article and I decided to read it in real time alongside you, so rather than read it ahead of time and prepare and and really think through it, which is what I'm always doing. As I was as I began reading it, I thought, Oh, wouldn't it be fun to just for the listeners to have my honest, raw reaction to this. So that's what I decided to do, and we had a lot of fun. But of course I'm long winded, and there was so much to pick apart in her article. And this is New York Magazine, this is long form journalism, this is long form opinion. So she's got thousands and thousands of words. It's a long article to get through. And so I thought, well, you know what, let's just have some fun and the audience can react to this the way I react to it with their first time observances. Obviously, I have a tendency to get long winded, and rather than make it a really long episode, I decided, Okay, I'm just gonna cut this off here and I'll do a part too. So hopefully this episode won't be as long as the previous episode. But y'all know how I do it here, and just listen to yourself. People are always saying, how do you talk for an hour to nobody? This is just you. You don't have anyone to bounce ideas off of. My problem is talking around an hour. My problem is condensing my comments to an hour. It's both a blessing and a curse. I suppose. Well let's get into it. Let's get into part two. So where we left off in part one are Our author also criticized she was being very hypocritical. I won't rehash it, obviously I shouldn't. I asked RBO to release these two shows as closely as he could for this reason, so that it's freshing your mind. But just to recap quickly, our author also had a problem with Republican women talking about the difference in genders and how women are the weaker sex, but then acting as strong women and taking on masculine qualities. So I broke all that down, and I broke down why her argument I thought was thoughtless and very immature. Not She's an excellent writer, which I would expect for someone writing for New York magazine. I'm thoroughly enjoying her structure and her cadence, and she's a great writer. But this, the logic of this article is bunk. It's it's ridiculous. She has not thought through anything. In the respect of the quality of writing, it's very good. The quality of thought, I don't know, Maybe it's just me. I find it to be extremely immature and amateur thinking. She has not thought through these ideas at all. This is headline thinking, and this is probably I don't know how old this person is, but this is probably how she was educated. But she probably went to an elite school or a coastal school. She's in her bubble. We talked about that last episode. She's probably been educated this way too. That I talked last episode about the clapped or people are educated in terms of applause lines, and that's what this seems to have a lot of applause lines. She's making the argument that she see it seems like she would be having at the afterwork drinks with her coworkers on a Friday evening. It's not thought through at all, I'm finding, and I'm surprised by that. So it's not been hard to pick apart, and it's been fun to pick apart. So let's continue on with this article by the Rebecca Tracter in New York Magazine, What's wrong with Republican Women? Yeah, just to as you recall, she's just written about seven paragraphs about the problem of Sarah Palin. So we continue. When the Republican Party of Palin first began to make way for the Republican Party of Trump, he was still best known as a reality television star. He was the owner of the Miss Universe pageant, a serial adulterer who had cheated on two of his wives, and was married to a woman who appeared to be his ideal. A similar crumb of every sculpted, shiny, glittery enhanced expectation of femininity US Welcome to the world of corporate business. Rebecca, I live in Orange County is pretty much described every rich man's wife. Here was a man who regarded women with wolf whistling lasciviousness, or dismiss him as pigs. And dogs. As a presidential candidate, he expressed revulsion for female bodies, claiming that debate hosts Megan Kelly had blood coming out of her wherever and calling Clinton's bathroom break during a debate disgusting. I don't remember that part he did. He called her because she had to go to the bathroom, it was disgusting. I'm sure that's not what he said, but I don't even remember what this is referring to. I musn't miss that one. But of course the Megan Kelly thinking Trump is so weird sometimes, yeah, I thought, and I thought Megan Kelly handled that exactly how it should have been handled. She was pissed off about it, as she should have been. She gave as good as she got, so she had some smackdowns for him, But she also didn't let it affect her analysis of the politics surrounding all the issues. Right, So you can still hear Megan Kelly giving a logical, reasoned analysis of things that are going on with Trump on a day to day basis, and also she can hold the thought that she doesn't like this guy in her head at the same time, which is what intelligent women can do. But for women like Rebecca Tracter, it's every this is simplistic thinking. I think I've talked about this before. I've got to have him on the show. My good friend Evan say it. He's a comedian from la I think he escaped to Texas recently. They wrote this book years ago, after nine to eleven. It's called The Kindergarten of Good and Evil. I can't recommend it to you enough. You can go get it on Amazon right now, on Kindle The Kindergarten of Good and Evil. But he talks about every time you're looking at these liberal policies and you're going, gosh, why do they It seems like a bunch of kids made this. His argument is that's because liberalism, or we were saying liberalism after nine to eleven. I think what he was referring to he would call now progressivism. Progressivism is for children. It is childish thinking, childish magical thinking. So it boils every These are the people who want to talk, are who are just desperately committed to this idea of the of non binary. But they are the ones who are pushing a binary I discuss this a little bit in the last episode when I talked about the binary they try to make for definitions of gender expression. Right, if you wear pink, you're obviously sleep inside you're a girl. And if you want to play with trucks, and obviously inside you're a boy. They've created this binary and then pretended that it's not a binary. And it's the same way with all of their thinking. Every everything is a binary. You're either good or you're bad, and there's no in between. That's what cancel culture tells us. There's we've obviously on this show, we've discussed the endless examples of that. You're either oppressed or you're the oppressor. Go back and listen to my analysis on white fragility. I read through that whole book so you didn't have to, and I discussed it. Go look at that analysis. Same thing, this binary. You're either oppressed or oppressor. There's no in between, there's no room for nuanced, none of that. You're either feminine or you're masculine. Right, these people again who don't want to who don't want to admit that there is a binary. Oh, I'm non binary, but i'm fem I'm non binary mask which means masculine. They can't think outside the binary everything is reduced for them. It's very reductive thinking. And I just also think it's hilarious they that she uses the term serial adulterer as if as if she thinks that's some kind of insult, when literally every politician she's ever supported is a serial adulter almost I shouldn't use the word literally. Probably almost, And if we would look to I'm going to guess that she really is a big fan of Hillary and Bill Clinton, and he was a serial adulter adulterer, right, And Hillary Clinton not only did she stay married to him, she also ran his cover up campaigns. So again, more cognitive dissonance, more hypocrisy, the thing she's accusing everyone else of, That's what she's doing. This is projection. It's not surprising. It doesn't make me angry because I'm completely unsurprised by it. But it would be nice if some of these so called intellectuals exhibited even an ounce of self awareness from time to time. But the older I get, the more I'm coming to understand that most people are not very self aware. Self aware is one of the thing is the same self awareness is the same kind of gift that talking is, right, I say, my ability to talk ad nauseum and at length on any issue is a blessing, but it's also a curs particularly for the people around me. Self awareness is the same way. You can be too self aware can drive you crazy. But to have a healthy amount of self awareness as a gift, and sometimes it's a gift in certain situations. All right, I'll move on. See I'm already getting long winded. He said. When he became president. Oh my gosh, this the breathless, the breathless rage, outrage of this next sentence. When he became president, he stacked the Supreme Court with anti abortion zelos who proceeded to stripe down row zealous. You're you're not the zelot for thinking that killing babies is the way to a prosperous future. To people that that's not zealous. We see people literally foaming at the mouth and from the Supreme Court to protect the right to kill an infant in the womb. That's not zelotry. But standing and silent, silently praying outside the Supreme Court for unborn for the unborn is zelotry. Of course, this is biblical, right, it's upside down. We're living in the upside down. And then, of course there's always that question of Roe. I do believe this deserves the response every time that it's mentioned out loud, because now this media narrative. And I believe Rebecca Tracer believes this because in this article she has not exhibited enough curiosity or intelligence to make me believe she knows truth. But Roe, of course, being struck down doesn't change abortion anywhere for anyone. All it did was send it back to the states for the states to decide. So her issue with abortion should be with her state, not with the Supreme Court. And I'm going to assume she lives in New York, where she writes, which is an abortion sanctuary state, so she's clearly got nothing to worry about. But I don't think she knows any of that. Let's continue, for the women in his party who would want to gain any political authorities, submitting to him and conforming to his standards is the only path to survival, and womanly fealty to Trump can be vividly expressed by meeting the physical demands of his universe. For years, the right promoted a very particular version of conservative femininity via its Fox News arm live blonde couriers of white panic over Black Santa and Sharia were one of Roger Ills's innovations, and Kelly Gretchen Carlson Laura ingram Ands gained powerful public purchase in exchange for their okay, I have never heard this work in exchange for their chat chataranga, toned arms, shacharunga. Well, let me look this up. You got me chatarunga learning new stuff today. It's c h like chat u r a n g a shut arunga. Oh, it's a type of yoga. I don't no wonder, I don't know it. They're chatarunga, toned arms and poisonous propaganda. I love how this woman writes. And by the way, I love alliteration. I'm a huge fan of alliteration. So good on your Rebecca. I'm really enjoying your pros, even if your arguments are ridiculous. That many of them would eventually come forward to tell of the grotesque harassment and sexual abuse they experienced while working at Foxes perhaps the ultimate portrait in the miniature of the dynamic in which women on the right so often find themselves embroiled. None of them this is untrue. I want to point this out, but again, this is This is an issue of correlation, not causation. It's the job that causes those, not the political ideology. And we need to look no further, Rebecca than Matt Lower's rape button in his office. You remember that, or he had and he had a button installed under his desk that would close and lock his door whenever a female, well, whenever he chose, and typically he chose to do that when he was pressuring his underlings for sexual favors in return for their jobs. That Matt Lower is a Democrat, Bill Clinton is a rapist, right, he's one of your most hallowed presidents, Rebecca, rapist at the very least, sexual predator at the or womanizer right, any of those things would apply. I understand you might deny his connections to the rates, but again another thing, and we would look at to say, Gavin Newsome, same thing. Kamala Harris, the vice president. She's infamous among the left and the right in this state for working her way up the political ladder through sexual favors. That's an open secret in California politics. Everyone knows it, everyone talks about it. It's not even a partisan thing, you hear democrats. I was shocked when I first moved here to hear Democrats saying this about her. Now, I was like, you're not supposed to talk about one of your own people like that. So this is a this is an issue that is correlated to the job. Why do Why did Fox go with that skinny blonde stereotype which bothers me too, Right, They're never going to give a woman like me a show on Fox. They've got a couple, you know, they got Harris Faulkner on there. I think who is visually speaking, who has the look that they were prefer for a but the CONDI Rice look for a black woman on TV. But I get that, But again I also understand that that's optics, that that is what the consumer wants to see. So it's not about what Donald Trump wants to see. It's not about what Roger Ailes wants to see, even though he might like that. But the consumers respond, And I think the numbers speak for themselves because on any given night, Fox News, in a market that's dying, which is cable news, they're still pulling down millions more viewers at any given minute of the day than their liberal counterparts. So again, that's that's marketing. I don't know that that's political ideology, but she's got to pull her examples from somewhere I understand. And oh and by the way, yes, obviously there are predators in corporate America. And again we know for a fact that that is not an ideological problem. If you'll recall, I explained why liberal women, particularly in the media space, are so cruel and harsh towards conservative men because their men are horrible, and those are the men on their side, so how much and the yet right, those are the good guys supposedly, so how much worse must the bad guys be? So, Rebecca, I only have to point you to your side, Harvey Weinstein and all of Hollywood. So this is not an ideological problem, clearly. And I didn't even really have to think very hard about that argument. And I don't even I'm not trying to defend Donald Trump or Roger Ayls or Fox News or any other creepy predator who uses his position of authority to sexually pressure the women in his employee. I'm not defending any of that, and I'm not trying to both sides it. I'm logicing through this, and I didn't even have to do much work much effort to pull out those comparisons. But this is the other thing, and the reason why a person like Rebecca can't really think deeply through her arguments is because she has to use so much energy pushing away the logic, or she has to push away this example of Harvey White. See, she has to pretend it's not there in order to write this. That also does take some mental energy. All right, all right, let's move on, let's go. I'm never gonna finish. Hey, y'all, this is Ali Michelle. I'm a conservative social media influencer that has been censored by big tech. So I broke away from the restrictions and started a podcast called pillow Talk with Ali Michelle. My show is a space to have real conversations about the issues that impact our everyday lives without the fear of being canceled by the big tech tyrants. Subscribe to pillow Talk with Alian Michelle and FCB podcast on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get you podcasts. That's Ali ALII. Come check out my show. I'll see you there. I'll skip a couple of paragraphs where she's talking about well, okay, here's a paragraph, A little further down, she's just talking about hot conservative women or women who use their looks. Christy Nome, of course, Sarah Palin, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Laura Trump. Okay, but here's a paragraph that's interesting and deserves to be read. She says, generations of women of both parties have been caught in this finger trap. When your value is tied inextricably to sexualized standards contrived by white men, you will not be appreciated, sometimes not even seen unless you meet those standards. Yet if you do hit their often shifting aesthetic marks, you risk being degraded by those same men, not taken seriously as their peers, but rather understood as their ornament. That's probably the truth paragraph that I've read this whole thing. I think she's bang on about that, and that is again that this is not causation, this is correlation. This is what it means to be a woman. Go see the Barbie movie. I know a lot of people, a lot of conservatives are complaining about that raw raw what it means to be a Woman's speech by America Ferreira in the middle of that movie, which got her a bunch of awards and nominations. But if you can take your ideological hat off and listen to the speech, it's actually a really pointed and poignant speech about all of the contradictions of being a woman. And it's not easy. And I don't know why a conservative women found that speech so offensive or so woke. I found it to be truthful. I think you just had your woke filter on for the whole movie, and so that's the filter you saw the speech with. But I saw it to be true. There is this dichotomy that every woman must to struggle with because we do live in a man's world, and so men do, in many respects set the standards of beauty, and then we're left to figure out how beautiful is too beautiful, how you know what's too much, what you can tip over into suddenly being judged harshly or wrongly by your looks that you've been told are important getting ahead, and they are. The way we look at women in society is different than the way we look at men. We all again, Rebecca, that we only need to look to every institution around us that we all participate in Hollywood, right, the beauty pageants, circus media entertainment, so she's really I really actually think this is a great one of the first really bang on paragraphs in this piece. And she says, for Republican women less driven to cosmetic enhancement, there is another more traditional expressive model still available, that of the demure maternal presence. Yet working this angle. Yet those working this angle are also applying their cozy wears in a manner that jibes with the despotic nihilism this woman, the way she writes, in a manner that jibes with the despotic nihilism of Trump in America, producing messaging that can feel like an unnerving subversion of maternal tropes as much as a reinforcement of them. Katie Britt the Youngest is the youngest Republican woman ever elected to the Senate, a forty two year old mother married to a former NFL player, the pretty straight white woman. It's just so odd that these are all the ways she decides to define every person, every woman, or everybody by straight and white. It's just, you know, how if somebody says something over and over again, you know that's a sign of their obsession. Or if they mentioned something like the first time, you realize that your sister or your son was in love, like maybe your baby's sister. She just kept bringing this guy's name up casually. They go, oh, oh yeah, Bob loves those kinds of flowers. Oh oh yeah, you know what. I was talking to Bob about this the other day. And then you start to realize, oh, she is obsessed with this guy. This is not just some casual acquaintance. She must really be in love or she's developing some kind of obsession. It is clear to me that Rebecca Traster's obsession is straight white people. And usually where your obsession lies, that's where your perversion lies, right, And I don't mean sexual perversion, but just any kind of perverted way of thinking, disordered thinking. She's clearly got a straight white problem. Okay, Oh, let's see the The pretty white straight woman dating the football player was surely once one of the conservative universe's holy archetypes until gay friendly Taylor Swift and her vaccine loving boyfriend Travis Kelcey scrambled conservative brains and sent a right wing media into seething paroxysms of vilification in paranoia. I don't disagree with that paragraph either. People have really been obsessed with Taylor Swift and Travis Kelzy. Okay, after the Swift Kelsey meltdown came BRIT's rebuttal to the state of the Union, recorded in her home with a glinting cross around her neck. How underhanded. Here was the remnant of the delegate and devout figure the Right has long advertised as its heart and soul, the retro view of the comforting lady, unadorned by anything but her love for Jesus, ready to make you dinner while also working as a senator again again, this is okay, let's be fair to Rebecca. This is an opinion piece. This is not a journalistic piece. She's not writing a report. This is her opinion. But here is her point of view, completely laid bare here. And this is why we see everything through filters. And if you can recognize that you have a filter on, then you have a chance of being a reasonable person. If you can just you don't have to get rid of the filter, you just have to recognize that it's there. Yeah, you can either Trump. All of Trump's weirdness looks frightening to you if you view Trump through the lens of a horror movie. If you view Trump through the lens of a comedy movie. Then everything he says is hilarious, right, So it's the filter that you have on. She sees a woman sitting in a kitchen with a cross around her neck as some kind of dark representation of a time in feminine in the history of womanhood when women were women were required to be homemakers and demur and just Jesus loving little robots. Right, I, as a podcaster, a political analyst, and as a thinking human being and patriotic American see her sitting in her kitchen as a message to all of the families out there in America who do all their talking around the kitchen table, and who are who are scared about how they're going to put food on that kitchen table because of the rise and cost of inflation and crime, and there's crime and the border and all of that. I see the kitchen as a place of family feeding and nurturing and all of that goes with faith, of course. So that's what I see when I look at it, because I'm looking out at the world through the lens of Jesus, which is which is an enlightened lens, has it's bright, right. Her worldview is a lot darker. So that's what she saw. I think that's a fascinating example of how our filters change everything. I certainly don't believe that was Katie Britt's intention, as if there were some kind of cabal behind Katie Brit going, you know what we need to do. We'll put you in this kitchen and it'll be a throwback to the time when women are supposed to be quiet, and so we'll get that group of Trump people. No, I, even as somebody whose husband is in marketing, I know what that image is, and it's meant to recall all of these things about family and nurturing and feeding people and affording your home and coming together and anyway, fascinating breakdown of that how your filter can change everything. This is really interesting, she says. Then Britt began to talk, and out came a gruesome tale of how the American dream has turned into a nightmare for so many families. If it weren't for her eyes by lash Batting, the speech would have been a direct callback to Trump's inaugural twenty seventeen address about American carnage. Britt told the story of a woman she'd met who had been sex trafficked by the cartels starting at the age of twelve, and who shared with her. And she's quoting here not just that she was raped every day, but how many times a day she was raped. Freelance reporter Jonathan Katz would identify the woman as Carla Essentio Romero, an advocate who'd had this horrific experience between two thousand and four and two thousand and eight, when Republican George W. Bush was president, and not even in the United States, but grossly misrepresenting the experiences of a woman of color, Bye bye. Grossly Britt was working an age old reactionary script of white American womanhood being vulnerable to violent sexual incursions by black and brown people. Wow, that was a mouthful, Rebecca, and quite a stretch and disturbing. This is actually beginning to frighten me. How easily progressive dismiss brutality against women and children. It's shocking to me. So hey, let's start with this idea that Katie Bird's telling this story that's irrelevant because it happened between two thousand and four and two thousand and eight during the Bush administration. She didn't say that she was talking to a woman who had been raped last year. I'm guessing she probably met this woman at some kind of event. I would imagine this woman maybe as a speaker right now or an advocate right In fact, that's what Jonathan Katz found out, that this woman is an advocate. So probably what Katie Britt was saying is I met this woman at an event or we were both speaking at the same event. I met Yomi Parks, I've been on I was on a couple of Fox shows with her. Yomi Parks is this North Korean escapee who now travels the country talking about the brutality of communism. I met her, heard her story personally in the green room. We had a conversation, we chatted, She you know, shared some things with me before she went out on stage for the show. Now I can tell the story of how I once talked to a young woman who escaped North Korea and told me this harrowing tale of how she had to sell her body in order just to make it to China, which was a little, you know, less worse than North Korea, and then she had to keep telling her body till she could escape China. And it was harrowing, you know, But that it doesn't mean the story is not true or doesn't have any value because it happened to Yomi twenty years ago and I only met her in twenty twenty. That doesn't mean the story is not true or doesn't have value, Rebecca. So I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with that little remark. But the other thing is, what is she misrepresenting about this woman of color? I'm mean to guess that this woman of color doesn't care about the race of the people who are advocating to save young women from sexual slavery. I don't know why you do, or why the fact that it's Why shouldn't she be talking Why wouldn't you want this woman to be talking about child sex trafficking? Are you suggesting that it doesn't happen? But here's the thing again, this is why Katie, excuse me not Katie. Rebecca can write so eloquently but can't really make reasoned arguments because she has to spend a lot of her time pushing away the evidence right pushing away. She can't think about child sex trafficking. She can't because the reality of it is too brutal and too real and right on her doorstep, and it's connected to very inconvenient issues like immigration and the border, and child consent laws, sex consent laws in California. We're working to lower the age of consent. That's the concerted effort of one man. His name is Scott Wiener. He's also a sado masochist. In admit, I'm not I'm not making that up. He's an admitted proud Just go to his Instagram fee that's right there. I'm not being salacious or accusatory that it's right there. He posts. He posts his bondage bondages pit, his bondage picks right there. And he serves in the in the California Center, working hard to lower the age of consent. We've compromised at fifteen. He's trying to get it to twelve. I wish I was making that up, but fully verifiable. Uh, that's a lot for a person like Rebecca to have to consider. So she's got to spend a lot of energy pushing that area of the logic away and then the and the result is, ironically, that the plight of young black and brown women that she claims to care about being ignored because it doesn't fit her in to her political bubble, which makes me deeply sad, deeply deeply sad. Then she goes on to talk about BRIT's quote contradictory views on abortion, because of course, how can you be a woman and not support abortion, because that is clearly the only point of view you're allowed to have as a woman, as a woman on abortion. And I'm not going to read the next let me go one, two, three four white mother figure is used a few times in here. Yes, it's mostly abortion, it's all about Nancy Mayds. So this is this really makes me think, one, Okay, I'm not going to read all of it. This is far too much, and I think it's unnecessary for the context of this analysis because what she's saying in these next paragraphs are basically, uh, just more of the same thing that we've already analyzed. But I'm going to count up this amount of paragraphs on Nancy Mace one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, ten paragraphs on Nancy may So this makes me think that Nancy Mace really is on that shortlist for Trump's VP list, because I've seen a number of people coming for Nancy may Slately. I've seen Nancy mays, cozying up to Trump, and I've heard Trump saying a couple of nice things about her. Yeah, I think she's on this shortlist. I really do, for better or for worse, she says. Rebecca says, there is surely a perverse pride in emerging victorious near the top of a power structure built to exclude you. These are the dynamics that have long rewarded white women for acting as foot soldiers within a white patriarchy. I looked up Rebecca. I think she's white, but I guess so. She's a white New York limousine liberal. I really do think the white savior complex kind of goes hand in hand. I'm not saying all of them are that way, but having analyze, having spent three episodes of the show analyzing white fragility, yeah, she definitely is working really hard to show you that she is not a bad white person. There's a difference between the status granted those willing to do whatever unhinged thing it takes to get ahead a contemporary right wing politics and the political autonomy these women might yearn for just as much as the classical feminists they wage war against. When Valentina Gomez agreed to respond to my email questions. I noted she'd use Maga to describe her politics and wondered whether she saw a distinction between MAGA and the Republican Party. I think that's a good question. By the way, Rebcca, it exhibits a level of curiosity I've not seen from you so far in this article. Okay, well, what the gomet says? Goma says, I did not use Maga, Gomez corrected me. I am Maga the future of the Republican Party. Gomez told me she developed her political ideas while swimming Division IE and graduating from college at nineteen, earning an NBA twenty one, and building a real estate empire with her family, all achievements enabled by the feminist movement. That is Rebecca's commentary, not Vanessa's. I think, honestly, if I was in a room with Rebcca, I would say the feminist movement has done more to harm those efforts than aid them. But again, these are opinions, right, so this is just my opinion versus hers. But she said feminism is exactly like the trans movement. They're both doomed. Mace two turned certain tools of feminist argument okay, this is paragraph paragraph eleven, paragraph twelve, Okay, so that two more paragraphs. I will read this one. It's worth reading now that I read through it. Mace also cried misogyny. She cried misogyny when ABC news is George Stephanopolis asked her during an interview, how as a rape survivor she could support Trump, and while it is true, this question should be addressed to all supporters of Trump, not just those who have experienced sexual assault. Mace deflected the challenge question the challenging question by claiming Stephanopolis was rape shaming her. Now, if the roles were reverse, Rebecca, I have absolutely no doubt that you would agree with Nancy makes And also, I again I would ask that question of someone who would support Hillary Clinton who has remained married to a rapist, and someone who has been on the Epstein Epstein Island documented, not just flown on the plane, which I think a lot of people have done and maybe not necessarily engaged in activities with Epstein, but been on Epstein islands, buddies with Epstein. Lots of rape accusations against the Kennedy family, right and proof even and we won't even talk about the assassinations throughout political history that have come at the hands of democratic dynasties. So again the cognitive dissonance, like, of course he shouldn't be being raped. There are women who were raped by Harvey Weinstein who vote for the same people Harvey Weinstein votes for. Right, I just there are women who have been raped who support Harvey Weinstein. So again, I just this isn't a logical argument. This is just this is what I'm a fine result, and I just don't think it's fair that this woman thinks like this. There's no absolutely no self awareness here. That's what stunning to me about this, not the arguments she's making, because again she's a limousine liberal. Of course I would expect her to think this way. But I'm just the cognitive dissonance. It's just the ideas that you have to squelch. And it's just such an unsophisticated type of argument she's making here. Hey, y'all, this is Ali Michelle. I'm a conservative social media influencer that has been censored by big tech. So I broke away from the restrictions and started a podcast called pillow Talk with Ali Michelle. My show is a space to have real conversations about the issues that impact our everyday lives without the fear of being canceled by the big tech tyrants. Subscribe to Pillow Talk with Ali Michelle and FCB podcast on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you getch podcasts. That's Ali, Ali. Come check out my show. I'll see you there. A little bit about Schlaffley here and Roe v Wade. All right, she talks about Gretchen with Whitmer, mixing Barbie looks with you know, sort of tough guy persona. This doesn't really matter what she says here. It's all certainly performed in its own way. But for the first time, it's the Democratic women who can articulate the mix of football and Barbie and healthcare and labor without tripping over themselves, who seem more comfortable in their own bodies. The women on the right appear in perpetual confusion and find themselves like some negative image of Clinton twisting into something unrecognizable. I don't know if that's true, but that's clearly how Rebecca sees that there's nothing inherently wrong with wearing pink and making testical jokes, though shooting dogs is not nice. And giving hand jobs during beetlejuice is rude. They are part of a range of impulses of free society should be open to avaualuating on their own merits, regardless of the gender of the person engaging in them. If you could separate it from the regressive politics, there might be something exhilarating about Marjorie Taylor Greene's willingness to throw weights around and toss off suffocating norms of feminized civility in the workplace. It's very interesting observation from Rebecca there. It's like she's almost there. It's like she's almost kind of getting to it right, that women could be nuanced. But again, it's the ideology she can't get past. She can't see past her ideological the walls of her bubble, and that's hard to do. We have talked about paradigm shifts on this show, and they're rare and they don't happen to everyone. And if you do experience a paradigm shift, you are blessed. So yeah, it's interesting that she's that she's almost there with the idea, but not quite. It's like she can tell she can see, like, yeah, there is some value why can't a woman do all this, that and the other, which is what conservative women have been saying for ages, like if I want to be a stay at home mom who lives waights, why should I be ashamed of that? She goes onto the trance stuff. There's no way to understand these varied approaches to gender expression outside the context of their own political aims. These are politicians who regularly refer to gender affirming healthcare as castration and mutilation. But those what that is what they are, Rebecca. If you remove a man's penis, that's literally the medical term for that is called castration. Mutilation perhaps is a more opinionated term to use for that, but I still think it's a valid term. Again, it depends on what your filter is. If you have a darkened filter and that has caused you to, you know, be anti science and anti biology, then yeah, you might feel like the word mutilation is not good and that this is gender affirming. But if you have a realistic filter on, I think mutilation, well whatever. Anyways, she's the one who and then she refers to the turf the turf move trans exclusionary radical feminists, which is basically just a rude term for women who think that women are women and men are men. I won't read the rest of this. It doesn't matter. This was so interested in that little sentence. There. We've made it to the end. Here, these are the final three paragraphs. Here we go. I shall read them all. Yet these women express themselves via a disneying mashup of gendered conventions. They augment their smiles, be dazzled their pantsuits, and broadcast their bench presses in their fevered performances of hyper femininity and hyper masculinity. There's another binary for you, Rebecca, giving you a binary. So many of the GOP's most VISI women are themselves engaging in a form of drag. Okay, this is really far stretch. But again, Rebecca, it's been stretching really far this whole time. Soon, of course, drag and its queer context, offers the chance to slip from and send up the constricting bounds of gender norms, to encourage empathy and celebrate diverse forms of identity. The show these Republican politicians are putting on is it's cold, opposite, asphyxiated, distended, nasty. Theirs is surely Drag's gothic inverse I love that sentence. It's absolutely, absolutely a ridiculous thought, Rebecca. But what pros still it is possible to catch a glimpse of pathos beneath the performances, because the show covers for something awful and real. The identities of those women are no more valued or recognized by the party for which they labor than gay or trans or feminist identity. These are women fundamentally cannot lead a party that wants to oppress women. They cannot, in fact, even be fully human within it. I might agree with that thought, actually, Rebecca, this is why I think it's very dangerous that you're letting men decide what women are, which is what you're doing. This is the whole thing with the whole movement, the whole tRNS movement. I don't want to say it too much because the show will get censored, but that's the whole thing, right, You're letting men tell you what a woman is, and in fact, you're letting men tell you we can't even use the word women in some circumstances because it's discriminatory. They don't tell you it's discriminatory to use the term man, but they let they You let them tell you where they're allowed to be and what they're supposed to do and what a woman should like should look like. You do that with drag queens too, right, you let these are men dressing as women, which is the whole art of drag, that is, they're not transgender. I think I don't know why the drag community has gone along with this because it's a perversion of this art form. Right, it's not trans' it's an art form. And but again, yeah, we're adopting all of these beauty standards from drag culture. You're adopting it, right. Where do you think these big lips and eyelashes and contouring, all that stuff comes from that community. So Rebecca herself has been the victim of adopting all of these male standards for female beauty. And so what I see in this article is her projecting out and of course at the end, what I take from all of this absolutely is she does not understand the complexities of womanhood. And again, I'm going to go back to that Barbie speech where there are all of the in fact, you know what, let me play it for you. I'm going to close out with the speech. And before you turn up your nose, because I know I have a lot of conservative listeners, and you hated the movie and you thought it was a gender driven Go back and listen to mine and my daughter's review of it. But re listen to it. It's only a minute or two. Re Listen to it, but without the filter of this is a woke speech. Listen to it with the conservative filter. Listen to it with the filter with my filter. If you can, you can imagine that, listen to it through the filter of this episode. Look at the Barbie speech through the lens of Women are complex and we deal with these complexities every day, and then we're plopped down into a world where we're supposed to be this binary, right, We're plopped down into this liberal, progressive created world where they tell us that they don't believe in the binary, but then all they offer us is the binary, and they do not allow room for all of the things that a woman can and should be. That's what I took away from that Barbie speech. So I'm going to end with that to tell you to write. So I'm going to play it, but let's take care of the housekeeping here. Jlt Y at ProtonMail dot com. J lt Y at ProtonMail dot com. I also just want to say really quickly, when you see here from our advertisers on the show, advertisers like Factor Meals, I want to encourage you to go ahead and try those things out, and don't forget to use my code because it helps so much with getting future sponsorships. And then I don't have to be an ideological slave like people like Rebecca are right, I don't have to write to a certain ideology in order to get my clicks or my paycheck. So it's stuff like that that helps. And I do try all of the products that we advertise on the show, and I will turn down I have and I don't make a lot of money from sponsorships. I have turned down products that I don't believe in. So I just want you guys to know that I'm not just selling you stuff, although I am selling you stuff, so if you want to give them, I would try. No, I've tried it first, and please do use my code. Help so much. Okay with that before we leave, don't forget. And this is a message to Rebecca too. I ended last episode with it. It's really important to stop every once in a while and listen to yourself and listen to the things you're saying and pick it apart, critique it. That's what critical thinking is. It's not a political term. Thinking critically simply means critiquing your own ideas. Right, Okay, don't leave just yet. Stick around for the Barbie speech and then write in let me know what you think with these new filters. Here we go, America, Ferrara and Barbie. It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. Like you have to be thin but not too thin, and you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman, but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane. But if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much, or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful, but never forget that the system is raped, so find a way to acknowledge that, but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard, it's too contradictory, and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you, and it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for adll just representing at then I don't even know O braiders all mesoda that we won't with say then we won't to say oh we gott it does no one can take that owen, it's gonna be okay. O Braiders, all mesoda that we won't with say then we won't to say, oh we gott it does No one can take that owen. Don't. It's gonna be okay. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network, where Real Talk lives. Visitors online at fcbpodcasts dot com.
