Ep. 277 - Listener Response 24
Pillow Talk with Alii MichelleMay 03, 202400:50:5346.48 MB

Ep. 277 - Listener Response 24

Kira catches up on listener thoughts - MLK and civil rights, the difference between the trucker convoy and Hamas protesters, raising families in the faith and more.

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[00:01:20] Well, I got an email recently from a regular listener, one of my favorites who writes

[00:01:25] in often.

[00:01:26] She's a faithful listener and it made me realize, oh, I haven't done a listener

[00:01:30] response episode in quite a while.

[00:01:32] So maybe I should go ahead and do that.

[00:01:34] I've had a lot of hot topics since the last one.

[00:01:38] People are chiming in.

[00:01:39] I know I did sort of a mini response.

[00:01:43] I went through some of the reactions to my article on Fonnie Willis and there was a lot

[00:01:49] of, there were a lot of passionate responses to that, but I haven't done a general listener

[00:01:54] response.

[00:01:55] So that's what we're going to do today casual, but just want to take this opportunity

[00:02:01] to chat with you guys as it were.

[00:02:04] This is one of my favorite parts of this podcast.

[00:02:07] So let's get started.

[00:02:08] We'll start with the email that reminded me it's time to do this from one of my favorite

[00:02:14] listeners, Deb.

[00:02:15] Deb, thank you so much for writing.

[00:02:17] I read all your emails even if they don't always make them into listener response.

[00:02:21] And I always appreciate that you catch me up on what you're thinking about in

[00:02:26] the podcast.

[00:02:27] I really do.

[00:02:28] I know you might think, oh, I'm sending Kira another long email, but I read every

[00:02:32] single email I get.

[00:02:33] I just don't always respond or respond in a timely manner.

[00:02:38] That's a personal issue, not necessarily a business issue.

[00:02:43] But Deb has been going through the catalog catching up on episodes that she may

[00:02:48] have missed and she had a few comments.

[00:02:50] So here she goes on episode 269, which is the Kira Davis is a race trader

[00:02:57] episode.

[00:02:57] That's the episode where I was responding to the Fonnie Willis stuff.

[00:03:02] Deb says, I cannot become involved in the comments regarding you being a race

[00:03:07] trader in general, calling out a person for their behavior or lack of

[00:03:10] professionalism should not have anything to do with race.

[00:03:14] I will never understand why many arguments have to circle around race.

[00:03:18] And I agree with you there, Deb, but just to be fair about the criticisms

[00:03:24] of that article, I was talking about race.

[00:03:28] So to be fair, but I do appreciate that defense.

[00:03:31] And I agree, you're right.

[00:03:33] And that's my problem with DEI in general, right?

[00:03:36] It focuses everything on race.

[00:03:38] She goes on as you might have picked up on, I was naive regarding what being

[00:03:42] black or a member of the black culture encompasses when I was much younger.

[00:03:46] One of the things I appreciate about your podcast is you without judgment

[00:03:52] communicate to me what you and others have had to go through due to

[00:03:55] bias preconceived notions and outright prejudice.

[00:03:58] I'm sorry to go through backlash, but I know your character is strong enough

[00:04:03] to handle it.

[00:04:04] He commented a few times that you see Ms.

[00:04:07] Willis's position as a result of DEI and that bothers you as a black person.

[00:04:11] I've heard others who are successful in their fields and are considered

[00:04:14] minorities say the same thing because of DEI and other similar programs.

[00:04:19] There is that preconceived notion that the only reason they or you got

[00:04:23] there is because of race and not merit.

[00:04:25] Such programs may seem to be a way of aiding the disadvantage, but ultimately

[00:04:30] they cause more bias.

[00:04:32] Yeah, Deb, a little sidebar here.

[00:04:34] My father was a business consultant in the 90s.

[00:04:40] I mean for a long time, but this story took place in the 90s.

[00:04:43] He's a business consultant on the East Coast in the 90s, black man, and

[00:04:47] felt that he had been denied promotion in a position because of race.

[00:04:53] And so he sued.

[00:04:55] Now my father also was very libertarian as he aged and he also hated affirmative action.

[00:05:03] I had many conversations with him over the years about affirmative action

[00:05:09] and how he felt it hurt him in the workplace.

[00:05:11] And I think that was also kind of one of the reasons why he was so upset

[00:05:16] about this particular incident because he felt that there was so much added prejudice.

[00:05:23] He felt that in my father was a wickedly intelligent man.

[00:05:26] He certainly earned any accolades he got, but he felt that people were suspicious

[00:05:31] of him because of his race and felt that he had to work twice as hard

[00:05:37] because people felt he was there as a as a diversity hire.

[00:05:42] And it really affected the way people treated him.

[00:05:44] And I think that's a very common experience.

[00:05:47] It's one of the reasons I don't care for affirmative action or these

[00:05:50] DEI policies, I have an episode on affirmative action and you can go listen

[00:05:55] to that if you haven't heard it and get more of my in depth thoughts on what

[00:06:00] I think is good about it.

[00:06:02] Because that's what we do on this show.

[00:06:03] We look at all sides that we can muster up and ultimately why I don't support it.

[00:06:10] All right.

[00:06:11] On episode, Deb says that on episode 270, which is my breakdown of the state

[00:06:15] of the union, she said, I just wanted to tell you, you had me laughing

[00:06:19] almost from the start with your critiques.

[00:06:21] We don't laugh about President Biden.

[00:06:24] We'll have to cry.

[00:06:26] And then she goes on to talk about one of the many episodes I do.

[00:06:31] I'm just saying a little bite-sized commentaries I do.

[00:06:36] I did one recently on California grooming.

[00:06:38] It was called California grooming and she says, and oh, by the way,

[00:06:42] just to break that down, it was about a sex ed lesson plan

[00:06:46] that parents uncovered in the state, which was horrible.

[00:06:50] She says there is so much I could say about this quote lesson plan.

[00:06:53] The writers were very cautious when referring to the quote safe person.

[00:06:59] At no time did it come up that a quote safe person could in fact be

[00:07:03] a wolf in sheep's clothing.

[00:07:06] It did not provide examples of who might be safe or how students

[00:07:10] could determine that.

[00:07:11] And as you pointed out, parents are completely out of the picture.

[00:07:14] A truly Marxist tactic.

[00:07:17] I remember back in the 1980s when we would teach sex ed, which was

[00:07:21] really about reproduction, we were required to get written

[00:07:24] approval from parents, making sure they knew what topics we were

[00:07:28] discussing and why it was being taught.

[00:07:30] We had to have the entire lesson plan available for parents.

[00:07:33] Times have definitely changed.

[00:07:36] And then she closes out saying thank you so much for what you do, Deb.

[00:07:40] Thanks, Deb.

[00:07:41] Thank you for what you do listening and responding.

[00:07:44] I loved that last commentary.

[00:07:46] You're absolutely right.

[00:07:48] This was a lesson plan that was teaching kids in the sex ed program,

[00:07:52] how to identify quote safe adults to talk to you.

[00:07:54] You should really go listen to it.

[00:07:55] It's only a couple of minutes long.

[00:07:57] Super creepy.

[00:07:59] But this is why you cannot.

[00:08:03] Acquiesce to the slippery slope argument, right?

[00:08:07] That people ridicule you for saying that there is a slippery slope.

[00:08:11] And I think we all need to spend more time paying more attention

[00:08:14] to our instincts about things.

[00:08:16] And if we know something can tip over quickly, we need to have the courage

[00:08:21] to stand up and say no, because I can see where this is going.

[00:08:26] And this was always where the sex ed bite was going to lead.

[00:08:28] And that's where the sex ed proponents.

[00:08:30] That's where they wanted it to lead.

[00:08:32] It's the same way with abortion, right?

[00:08:34] The abortion activists do this very thing.

[00:08:37] There's such hypocrites about it.

[00:08:39] They complain about it.

[00:08:40] They're the type of people that complain about people like us talking

[00:08:45] about the slippery slope.

[00:08:46] Oh, you guys are being alarmist.

[00:08:47] It's not a big deal.

[00:08:48] But when a state enacts or wants to enact, let's say a 15 week abortion ban,

[00:08:55] which if you're if you're one of those people who doesn't believe

[00:08:59] that life starts at the very second of conception seems rather reasonable

[00:09:06] in a society where we have to make compromise on issues like this.

[00:09:11] I don't find it reasonable because I still believe it's killing an infant.

[00:09:14] I just want to be clear, but objectively speaking,

[00:09:18] that at least seems like a fairly reasonable compromise.

[00:09:22] But the pro abortion activists will say no, because this is a foot in the door.

[00:09:28] This is a slippery slope.

[00:09:29] What they want to do is make abortion illegal across the board.

[00:09:33] And this is a way in.

[00:09:34] So they understand the battle of increments.

[00:09:39] They know that, and I don't know that they're wrong, by the way.

[00:09:42] I don't think they're necessarily wrong.

[00:09:45] Someone could use a 15 week abortion ban to, you know, you creep that out.

[00:09:49] OK, maybe it's 14 weeks as science progresses.

[00:09:53] Of course, we can peek into life, the development of life

[00:09:57] earlier and earlier in that development.

[00:10:01] And as science catches up with humanity,

[00:10:04] yeah, it's probably going to be easier to push bands

[00:10:08] earlier and earlier.

[00:10:10] So they're not necessarily wrong, but this is the idea of increments.

[00:10:16] And so when you have that that club that's opening up in your school

[00:10:19] and you're thinking, I feel a little bit weird about this,

[00:10:22] I don't know, but it's not a big deal now.

[00:10:24] It will be a big deal.

[00:10:25] The big deal is the end game.

[00:10:28] And so I know you feel like, you know, cranky old people

[00:10:33] for having to hold the line on some of this stuff when it really doesn't seem so bad.

[00:10:38] It's incremental.

[00:10:39] It's purposeful.

[00:10:41] It's a slippery slope.

[00:10:42] The slippery slope is real.

[00:10:44] This was exactly what those who were protesting against

[00:10:51] sex ed curriculum measures in public schools way back in the day

[00:10:55] in the 70s and 80s.

[00:10:56] This is exactly what they were warning us about.

[00:11:00] Think about gay marriage, the gay marriage debate debate

[00:11:04] in and of itself on the surface.

[00:11:07] While I do not believe that two people of the same sex can be married

[00:11:11] in the sight of God, I just don't.

[00:11:13] I don't see biblical evidence for that.

[00:11:17] As far as us living in a society and having to compromise on issues

[00:11:22] and the rights you have.

[00:11:23] OK, fine.

[00:11:24] Supreme Court says it's not legal to prevent two people of the same sex

[00:11:29] for marrying. OK, fine.

[00:11:30] I can accept that.

[00:11:32] But I but I do know that it's a slippery slope.

[00:11:35] And that was the argument people like me were making.

[00:11:38] Not because I didn't love my gay friends or want them to be happy

[00:11:43] in the ways that they chose.

[00:11:45] But because I understood that while this might seem innocuous,

[00:11:49] what's the big deal?

[00:11:51] Once you destroy the definition of marriage,

[00:11:53] you have a slippery slope.

[00:11:56] And I don't need to explain to you all where we are right now.

[00:11:59] Let's take a break.

[00:12:00] And when we come back, we'll continue with our listener response.

[00:12:09] Hey, y'all. This is Ali Michelle.

[00:12:11] I'm a conservative social media influencer that has been censored by big tech.

[00:12:16] So I broke away from the restrictions and started a podcast

[00:12:20] called Pillow Talk with Ali Michelle.

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[00:12:45] I'll see you there.

[00:12:47] We're back.

[00:12:48] We're going over some listener letters.

[00:12:51] And this next letter is from someone who identifies

[00:12:54] himself as TM.

[00:12:56] So TM wanted to talk about the recent episode I did on the trucker convoy

[00:13:02] versus the Hamas rioters.

[00:13:04] I was saying that I had a little bit of an issue.

[00:13:08] I felt like a bit of a hypocrite judging the difference between those two.

[00:13:13] And so I laid down those thoughts and we thought through the issue.

[00:13:16] So he comments on this, he says, Kira, I just listened to that episode

[00:13:21] and you did a great job laying out those issues.

[00:13:23] And I heartily agree with you.

[00:13:25] One thing struck me.

[00:13:28] The civil rights protesters and the trucker convoy people were all

[00:13:31] willing to suffer loss from their protests, even if it lasted a while.

[00:13:36] You think of the civil rights Montgomery bus boycott

[00:13:39] and how long those people were willing to suffer hardship.

[00:13:42] I've always found it absurd that refusing to ride a bus could somehow be illegal.

[00:13:46] I'm a 68 year old white guy.

[00:13:48] So I lived through that in the South and was a very staunch supporter

[00:13:52] of the civil rights movement.

[00:13:54] What I noticed with the pro Hamas and BLM protesters is that they don't

[00:13:58] think they should suffer any consequences from their actions.

[00:14:01] They're not willing to give up or abandon their lifestyle

[00:14:03] in order to make a difference.

[00:14:05] They say they hate the American capitalist system, yet they have grown

[00:14:08] up in it and benefit from it all the time.

[00:14:11] And I have not seen any college students saying, well, I'm going to

[00:14:13] leave Columbia or Yale or Harvard or whatever university I'm in.

[00:14:17] If they won't boycott and divest from Israel.

[00:14:20] So I'm quitting my studies at this university, even if I'm graduating in May.

[00:14:25] I will not accept that diploma or if they're still in the first two or three years.

[00:14:30] None of them are saying I'm leaving the school.

[00:14:33] I'm going somewhere else.

[00:14:35] None of them are willing to really take on a hardship the way

[00:14:38] the people in Montgomery were or even the truckers were willing to experience

[00:14:42] and suffer the hardships caused by their own protests.

[00:14:45] Thanks again for your podcast.

[00:14:46] I really appreciate your insights.

[00:14:48] That's a great point, T.M.

[00:14:52] What a great point that one group is willing to suffer the consequences

[00:14:56] because they believe in the principle of the protest.

[00:15:00] Right. And when you're battling for freedom, that is, I believe

[00:15:04] that's a very important hallmark of a freedom oriented protest,

[00:15:09] which is great, T.M.

[00:15:10] I hadn't I don't think I had really thought about it that way.

[00:15:13] But one thing is, yes, being willing to sacrifice personal comfort

[00:15:19] and the things that you need in order to regain your rights.

[00:15:24] So good.

[00:15:24] And it makes me think of the recent little protester girl at I think Columbia

[00:15:28] and she was giving a press conference and she was lambasting the university

[00:15:32] for not delivering food to the to the kids that taken over the administrative

[00:15:37] building and are currently in the process of vandalizing.

[00:15:41] I don't understand why you can't just sit in the building.

[00:15:44] You know what I mean?

[00:15:44] Occupy the building, but they have torn the place apart.

[00:15:48] They've torn it apart.

[00:15:49] They have spray painted it.

[00:15:51] If these are not serious people, but that doesn't mean they're not dangerous.

[00:15:56] So don't be tempted to just ridicule their behavior and and not make

[00:16:02] that connection between danger and their immature behavior

[00:16:07] because there are few things more dangerous than a passionate idiot.

[00:16:13] And so these kids, they they don't want to leave the building right there

[00:16:17] at one point on one campus.

[00:16:19] They were complaining because they had locked themselves in a room

[00:16:21] with no bathroom access and they needed to leave, but they couldn't

[00:16:26] because if they left, they'd be arrested because they're vandalizing

[00:16:29] and trespassing and they were so upset.

[00:16:32] And they were accusing the University of oppression and violence and aggression.

[00:16:38] It was like they're not even willing.

[00:16:41] Not only are they not willing to sacrifice their personal comfort

[00:16:45] for a cause they believe is very important, they weren't even willing to plan ahead.

[00:16:52] So yeah, I guess that's another sign that their protests are not legitimate.

[00:16:57] Thanks for that email, T.M.

[00:16:59] I appreciate it and I appreciate your listens.

[00:17:02] All right, let's move on.

[00:17:06] To G.L. G.L. had a comment on

[00:17:12] it wasn't an episode that I did, but a skit that I did.

[00:17:16] And I probably talked about it maybe on the Fonnie Willis stuff

[00:17:20] or the Martin Luther King stuff.

[00:17:21] But I did a sketch months ago, last year sometime now

[00:17:26] about being a black conservative and

[00:17:30] it was based on a true story.

[00:17:35] I was telling one of the Babylon B writers, sketch writers about running for office

[00:17:39] and how strange it was to be at these fundraising events

[00:17:42] and these these campaign events,

[00:17:47] really particularly political events, not necessarily the campaigning itself.

[00:17:51] And how Republicans were so keen to talk to me

[00:17:57] about my race right away, right off the bat.

[00:18:00] And I giggled about it.

[00:18:02] I mean, I wasn't saying in a way that was offensive.

[00:18:05] It was something that was funny to me.

[00:18:06] So that guy actually took that story and made a sketch about it.

[00:18:10] It was a funny irreverent sketch, sort of mocking ourselves as Republicans.

[00:18:14] It wasn't a big deal.

[00:18:16] But I got I got a lot of support for it.

[00:18:18] It was really funny.

[00:18:19] I thought it was hilarious.

[00:18:20] But I also got a lot of complaints about it.

[00:18:22] People felt that it was unfair.

[00:18:24] You shouldn't make fun of our fellow Republicans

[00:18:26] and conservatives that way.

[00:18:28] And so I probably mentioned it.

[00:18:31] So G.L. says.

[00:18:33] I don't have a lot of eloquent of eloquent stuff to say regarding your latest podcast.

[00:18:38] But I laughed at that skit for the polar opposite reason

[00:18:41] of why some other conservatives attacked you for it.

[00:18:46] As a cracker honky living in a city full of cracker honkeys,

[00:18:51] I absolutely saw myself in the characters being made fun of.

[00:18:54] I was being mocked and yet I was also being given a chance to be introspective

[00:18:59] and consider how to course correct.

[00:19:01] So thank you for making that skit.

[00:19:03] Well, you're welcome, G.L.

[00:19:05] And it was really funny.

[00:19:06] And I love I think my favorite part is at the end where my character sort of

[00:19:13] makes a comment to the bartender about him being gay.

[00:19:16] She just assumes he's gay and she wants to prove to him that she's ready

[00:19:21] to embrace him and he chastises her for it.

[00:19:25] And she looks sort of embarrassed and and and accused, you know,

[00:19:31] and I love that little button on the end of that sketch because

[00:19:35] it it makes it about all of us at the end.

[00:19:39] And that's what I like.

[00:19:40] This isn't about you, you know, it's not a sketch about you,

[00:19:44] you particular person out there.

[00:19:45] It's not a sketch about Republicans.

[00:19:47] It's a sketch about all of us.

[00:19:48] We're all goofy like this and it's fun to laugh at ourselves.

[00:19:52] So thank you.

[00:19:53] But then G.L.

[00:19:54] goes on to talk about the Christ is King stuff I had commented on,

[00:19:59] particularly Jeremy Boring from The Daily Wire,

[00:20:03] who was awkwardly trying to explain why Christ is king as a hashtag

[00:20:09] on Twitter is an aggression of sorts, a verbal aggression.

[00:20:15] And so I.

[00:20:18] Waited into the conversation a bit.

[00:20:19] So G.L. says also learning the origin of the Christ is King trend

[00:20:24] was really, really disturbing.

[00:20:27] Jeremy Boring's tweet about the phrase looking back

[00:20:30] was very poorly articulated.

[00:20:32] If you make the claim that the phrase Christ is King has been

[00:20:36] used in anti-Semitic ways, you'd better do a really good

[00:20:39] job explaining how if that's even possible.

[00:20:43] Or you'll come across as calling all disagreement with Judaism

[00:20:47] anti-Semitic.

[00:20:49] You did a good job explaining this.

[00:20:51] Jeremy did not.

[00:20:53] Thanks for another worthwhile listen.

[00:20:55] All right, thank you.

[00:20:56] Yeah, you're welcome.

[00:20:57] I think you're right.

[00:20:58] I again, not to rehash the whole thing, but yeah,

[00:21:03] I understand the phrase and agree with the phrase.

[00:21:06] Obviously the words is what they mean individually,

[00:21:10] but you can put words together and they mean things

[00:21:13] in an innocuous way.

[00:21:14] And then if a group adopts it as a slogan,

[00:21:16] it means something else.

[00:21:18] Black lives matter.

[00:21:19] You know?

[00:21:20] I obviously believe black lives matter,

[00:21:23] but when you slap that slogan on a t-shirt,

[00:21:25] it means something else.

[00:21:29] And we shouldn't pretend to be ignorant of that.

[00:21:31] I'm actually getting tired of us having to pretend

[00:21:35] that we don't know things after having been alive

[00:21:37] for so long on this earth.

[00:21:38] Like we don't know how to read people.

[00:21:40] We don't know how to read between the lines.

[00:21:42] We don't, that people don't have ulterior motives

[00:21:45] or hidden intentions and the things they say.

[00:21:48] That's just ridiculous to encourage people

[00:21:53] in that line of thinking.

[00:21:55] No, I'm almost 50 years old,

[00:21:57] so I've gained enough perspective in my life.

[00:21:59] I know when something's wrong.

[00:22:01] I know red flags when I see them.

[00:22:04] I'm intelligent enough to express that.

[00:22:07] Here's one short and sweet from Patricia.

[00:22:10] She says, I love listening to your podcasts.

[00:22:13] You make so much sense, so you're not crazy.

[00:22:16] People think they know it all in this day and time.

[00:22:19] I do have one question

[00:22:21] which has been bothering me for a long time.

[00:22:23] What are the lyrics to your theme song?

[00:22:26] I guess I'm just an old cauldron, but I can't parse.

[00:22:29] Is that the word I want?

[00:22:31] Yes, it is.

[00:22:32] Patricia, I can't parse it out.

[00:22:35] Thanks for everything you do

[00:22:36] and making normal people feel normal.

[00:22:40] Well, you're welcome.

[00:22:42] The name of the song is called Fate, Patricia, Fate.

[00:22:46] And it is by an FCB artist named Aaron Malik

[00:22:50] whom I have interviewed on this show.

[00:22:51] You can go back in.

[00:22:53] Aaron is a very impressive young man.

[00:22:56] He is the kind of young man you want out there.

[00:22:59] Do and stuff.

[00:23:00] He's not in an Ivy League college.

[00:23:02] Thank God.

[00:23:04] He's not doing all the things the elitists say

[00:23:06] need to be done in order to be a success.

[00:23:08] He's working hard.

[00:23:09] He's got a good head and shoulders.

[00:23:11] So definitely go listen to him, but the song is Fate.

[00:23:14] He is a Cleveland rap artist

[00:23:16] and the lyrics to the theme song are as follows.

[00:23:19] I pray the Lord my soul to take

[00:23:22] that we won't lose Fate, we won't lose Fate.

[00:23:24] All we got is us.

[00:23:25] No one can take that away.

[00:23:27] So don't lose Fate, don't lose Fate.

[00:23:30] I quite agree with you, Patricia.

[00:23:31] I also have a lot of trouble

[00:23:35] for understanding the lyrics to modern pop music.

[00:23:40] And I think that is just a consequence of getting older.

[00:23:43] And there's a science to it as well.

[00:23:45] You lose like receptacles, follicles, whatever in your...

[00:23:52] I said it, there's science

[00:23:53] and then I don't even know the terms,

[00:23:55] but I think you guys get it.

[00:23:56] You lose receptacles in your ears.

[00:24:02] And obviously they're very sensitive.

[00:24:03] So as you get older, they start to die out

[00:24:05] like your brain cells and you can't hear certain frequencies

[00:24:09] and certain things.

[00:24:10] So it's a joke that, yeah, we're so old,

[00:24:12] we can't understand this,

[00:24:13] but there's a science to it.

[00:24:15] We're not really able to understand some of the stuff.

[00:24:18] But that's it.

[00:24:19] And that's what I love about it.

[00:24:20] It really is...

[00:24:21] I think those lyrics encompass

[00:24:24] what the show is all about.

[00:24:26] So Aaron Malik, M-A-L-I-K.

[00:24:29] Even if that's not the type of music you listen to,

[00:24:32] I think it would be great to go give him a follow.

[00:24:34] You can find him on Spotify, YouTube, iTunes,

[00:24:38] whatever platforms.

[00:24:39] And here is the thing you can do to help artists

[00:24:42] even if you're never gonna listen to anything they do.

[00:24:45] You just hit that follow button on your Spotify app

[00:24:49] or you hit subscribe on YouTube.

[00:24:51] And then it costs you nothing.

[00:24:52] I mean, it might be annoying to see something in your feed

[00:24:54] that you're not gonna listen to,

[00:24:56] but you can delete anything.

[00:24:58] And other than that, it costs you nothing,

[00:25:01] but that is so helpful to his algorithms and the visibility.

[00:25:05] So support Aaron Malik.

[00:25:07] The song is Faith.

[00:25:09] And he's a great guy and he's been on the show as well.

[00:25:12] You can go look that up.

[00:25:13] Okay, let's take a break.

[00:25:15] And when we come back, we'll have more letters.

[00:25:21] Hey y'all, this is Allie Michelle.

[00:25:24] I'm a conservative social media influencer

[00:25:26] that has been censored by Big Tech.

[00:25:28] So I broke away from the restrictions

[00:25:31] and started a podcast called Pillow Talk with Allie Michelle.

[00:25:35] My show is a space to have real conversations

[00:25:37] about the issues that impact our everyday lives

[00:25:40] without the fear of being canceled by the Big Tech tyrants.

[00:25:44] Subscribe to Pillow Talk with Allie Michelle

[00:25:46] and FCB podcast on Apple, Spotify, iHeart

[00:25:51] or wherever you get your podcasts.

[00:25:53] That's Allie, A-L-I-I.

[00:25:56] Come check out my show.

[00:25:57] I'll see you there.

[00:25:59] All right, our next email comes from Marshall.

[00:26:02] Marshall says, Kira, I've been listening to you

[00:26:04] for years here and there.

[00:26:06] I first saw you through Steve Hilton.

[00:26:08] I was wondering what do you think about voter fraud

[00:26:11] in the 2020 presidential election?

[00:26:13] I think there were a lot of investigations

[00:26:15] that have been done

[00:26:16] that are hard to argue against now.

[00:26:18] But I think it's significant

[00:26:19] the media ignored the eyewitness accounts

[00:26:21] of poll watchers who from different states

[00:26:25] said they witnessed ballots being thrown out

[00:26:27] and other horrible stories of ballot interference.

[00:26:29] The Laura Ingraham show has a lot of their stories

[00:26:33] and I'm sure you could look them up.

[00:26:34] I think these eyewitness testimonies

[00:26:37] show a profoundly different angle

[00:26:38] from the mainstream narrative of no fraud.

[00:26:41] I'm very curious about what you have to say.

[00:26:44] Oh, okay, Marshall.

[00:26:45] Well, what I have to say is I absolutely believe

[00:26:47] that there was fraud of some sort in the 2020 elections

[00:26:53] and I'm in a state where fraud is sort of the norm.

[00:27:00] And so I absolutely know it can happen

[00:27:02] and I know how it can happen.

[00:27:04] And the left frame the 2020 election

[00:27:06] as you can't rig an entire presidential election,

[00:27:10] but of course you can.

[00:27:11] And it has been done before

[00:27:13] in the history of the United States.

[00:27:15] We have an electoral college.

[00:27:17] You don't have to rig the entire nation.

[00:27:20] You only have to make sure that certain areas

[00:27:24] skew one way or the other.

[00:27:26] And so again, I talk a lot about not ignoring your red flags,

[00:27:32] not ignoring a patterns and I'm sorry,

[00:27:36] but if Atlanta is one of the most

[00:27:38] hotly contested counties in the country

[00:27:41] and a candidate needs that county to win

[00:27:45] and suddenly there is a pipe leak.

[00:27:50] The night they're counting as their preferred candidate,

[00:27:54] as the mainstream media's preferred candidate is losing

[00:27:57] and suddenly a pipe burst, pipe's been fine

[00:28:01] for the whole year, for the whole forever.

[00:28:04] Now I just don't know how anyone,

[00:28:08] forget about who you supported.

[00:28:09] I don't know how anyone can look at that and say,

[00:28:12] oh, that's just a coincidence.

[00:28:15] Again, the mail-in, the boxes, the ballot boxes

[00:28:19] where you can drop your mail-in ballots.

[00:28:22] I have a whole episode of how easily they can be defrauded

[00:28:26] and how it's not a crazy notion to think

[00:28:30] they're not that secure.

[00:28:31] You don't know the trajectory of those ballots

[00:28:35] at every second like you do when you go to the machine

[00:28:38] and scan the ballot in yourself

[00:28:40] or make the choices there yourself.

[00:28:42] Yeah, why are these eyewitness testimonies ignored?

[00:28:46] The conservative media is only so big.

[00:28:49] We only have so much influence

[00:28:51] and if the mainstream media decides

[00:28:53] that those accounts don't matter,

[00:28:55] then they don't really matter in the news cycle

[00:28:57] and that's what you saw and that's what you're seeing.

[00:29:00] Of course those eyewitness testimonies matter

[00:29:05] as a matter of fact to connect this

[00:29:07] to another issue on this show,

[00:29:10] Fani Willis said that herself on the stand,

[00:29:12] which I think was a huge mistake she'll regret at some point

[00:29:16] but she was trying to give an assertion

[00:29:20] of why she was innocent of a certain accusation,

[00:29:22] I think meeting up with her lover at one point or another

[00:29:24] and she said, well no, a witness said we weren't there

[00:29:27] and that's all you need.

[00:29:28] One witness said it didn't happen

[00:29:30] and so it didn't happen

[00:29:31] because that's all you need in the court of law

[00:29:34] witness testimony as king.

[00:29:37] She said it.

[00:29:39] So Democrats apparently believe

[00:29:42] that eyewitness testimony is enough

[00:29:44] the media doesn't believe that

[00:29:45] because they didn't wanna believe the narrative at all.

[00:29:47] So they already had their minds made up about this.

[00:29:51] So not only are now we looking at proving

[00:29:56] something that is a huge deal and very, very serious

[00:29:59] and could really upend our entire electoral system.

[00:30:02] Not only do we have that challenge

[00:30:04] but we also have the challenge of proving it

[00:30:06] to people who have already made up their mind.

[00:30:09] There's no curiosity about it.

[00:30:11] So yeah, I do think there was election fraud,

[00:30:16] blatant election fraud

[00:30:17] and then also just conspiratorial fraud

[00:30:19] like we saw in the Twitter files

[00:30:21] where we saw how Joe Biden

[00:30:24] and his connections in the government

[00:30:27] at the time of Trump's presidency,

[00:30:30] how they worked to censor people on social media

[00:30:33] and then after he won the election,

[00:30:35] they actually put government agents in social media offices

[00:30:40] to censor and guide conversations.

[00:30:43] So there's that as well.

[00:30:45] So yeah, I wish it were different.

[00:30:49] I definitely think there was fraud

[00:30:51] and I think the only way to move forward

[00:30:55] besides continuing the investigations

[00:30:57] is for the Republican party

[00:30:58] to really make an aggressive push

[00:31:01] to shore up election laws

[00:31:03] in each of these problematic states.

[00:31:05] And they've been doing that in some cases.

[00:31:07] It needs to continue.

[00:31:08] And the other thing that needs to happen

[00:31:10] is voter ID laws which is happening

[00:31:12] and purging voter rolls.

[00:31:13] Those are three fairly simple ways

[00:31:17] to combat the fraud

[00:31:20] that I think is just naturally gonna happen

[00:31:23] in a country of this size.

[00:31:25] But yeah, Marshall, that's what I think.

[00:31:29] I know it's not very popular to say

[00:31:31] even in the conservative crowd

[00:31:32] you kind of get trashed for thinking that

[00:31:34] for saying it out loud

[00:31:35] but I believe I'm looking at it logically.

[00:31:38] I'm not even just, oh, I'm so outraged at Trump lost.

[00:31:41] I believe I'm just looking at it logically.

[00:31:44] This next letter comes from Jacob

[00:31:47] and it is in regards to the Martin Luther King episode.

[00:31:51] He says, hi, Kara.

[00:31:52] I'm about 53 minutes into your podcast, episode 261,

[00:31:56] MLK and the assassination of a legacy.

[00:31:59] I really appreciate your commentary so far

[00:32:02] and this in particular.

[00:32:04] I love that you call out

[00:32:05] that conservative and patriotic values, principles, et cetera

[00:32:08] should elevate the prosperity for black Americans.

[00:32:11] I am a white conservative,

[00:32:12] not that it matters in my opinion

[00:32:14] but I enjoy you breaking down this topic

[00:32:17] especially with the comments

[00:32:18] from other conservative pundits

[00:32:20] who are basically pushing away black Americans

[00:32:22] with their messaging

[00:32:23] which is not what conservatives stand for

[00:32:25] and certainly not what they should be doing

[00:32:27] in a critical election in 2024 as you said.

[00:32:30] I always admire and appreciate your calm nature

[00:32:33] logically discussing hot topics

[00:32:35] without letting your emotions get the best of you.

[00:32:37] I do support you and will continue to support you

[00:32:40] and your show.

[00:32:40] Thank you for speaking up.

[00:32:42] Please don't stop Jacob.

[00:32:44] Well, thank you Jacob for that.

[00:32:46] I appreciate it.

[00:32:47] I'm glad that you enjoyed it.

[00:32:50] I did get a lot of responses from that episode

[00:32:53] and I'm glad.

[00:32:54] I'm so glad because at least people are thinking about it.

[00:32:57] Charlie's still out there talking about doing away

[00:33:01] with the Civil Rights Act

[00:33:03] and so I won't relitigate that.

[00:33:05] Just go and listen to that episode

[00:33:07] but I think there are some really interesting things

[00:33:09] to think about in the discussion.

[00:33:13] And then another one about that episode,

[00:33:14] this one from Liz, she says,

[00:33:16] first off I wanna thank you.

[00:33:17] I'm grateful to have your voice in my life.

[00:33:19] When I thought the world was too loud

[00:33:21] and hard to navigate in 2020,

[00:33:22] I happened to find your podcast.

[00:33:24] I stumbled upon a Dan Bongino podcast

[00:33:26] where you were the guest.

[00:33:29] That was a great show.

[00:33:30] That launched a lot for me.

[00:33:31] We had a great talk.

[00:33:32] You were a breath of fresh perspective

[00:33:34] and I have thoroughly enjoyed listening

[00:33:36] and learning from you.

[00:33:37] I'm so tired of the narrative of judging people of old

[00:33:40] by today's standards.

[00:33:42] I'm tired of throwing the baby out with the bathwater

[00:33:45] and I am tired of rewriting people's character

[00:33:47] when they are dead

[00:33:48] and can no longer speak for themselves.

[00:33:51] Martin Luther King is a national treasure

[00:33:53] and I'm grateful for his contribution to America.

[00:33:55] I love his inspiring, I have a dream speech

[00:33:58] and I loved his cleverness with making him

[00:34:00] and people he stood for heard.

[00:34:03] He had his flaws

[00:34:04] and we don't always agree on everything

[00:34:06] but why should either of those things

[00:34:07] outweigh his benefaction on the civil rights movement

[00:34:11] and America moving forward?

[00:34:12] Everyone is looking for this prophetic infallibility

[00:34:15] and they won't find it.

[00:34:16] You and I know the one man who can carry that weight.

[00:34:19] You are spot on with conservatives

[00:34:21] needing to think about the outcome

[00:34:23] of these negative words.

[00:34:24] Man, I hope Matt Walsh

[00:34:25] and the other guy you spoke about listen to this show.

[00:34:28] I love this episode.

[00:34:29] I hope it goes down as one of your most listened to.

[00:34:32] Keep heart Liz.

[00:34:33] Thank you, Liz so much.

[00:34:36] And I think this is a great time to read,

[00:34:38] to follow up on that with this other letter

[00:34:42] that wasn't really disagreeable but slightly.

[00:34:45] This one's from Cora

[00:34:47] and Cora says, Kira, first of all, I love you.

[00:34:50] Your perspective opens my eyes to a lot

[00:34:52] I don't know or see in the black community.

[00:34:54] I'm writing because I feel I may have a unique take

[00:34:57] on the two episodes you did

[00:34:58] on the recent criticism of MLK

[00:35:01] and the Civil Rights Act by popular hosts on the right.

[00:35:04] Believe it or not, I faithfully listened to both you

[00:35:08] and Charlie Kirk and I love both of you.

[00:35:10] Well, Cora, I'll say I do believe that.

[00:35:12] There's a lot of overlap there

[00:35:13] so that's not a weird thing at all.

[00:35:16] And by the way, you like who you like.

[00:35:18] You don't even if I,

[00:35:19] if you're in somebody that I've talked about

[00:35:21] on this show and I don't like them,

[00:35:23] you like who you like and you get

[00:35:25] whatever you need to out of it, no judgment ever.

[00:35:29] I promise.

[00:35:30] Okay.

[00:35:32] Since I'm kind of an insider,

[00:35:34] I truly think you both believe the same thing

[00:35:37] with some nuance.

[00:35:39] Let me explain.

[00:35:40] As a devout follower of Jesus,

[00:35:42] Charlie believes in being authentic

[00:35:44] and following the truth regardless of the consequences.

[00:35:48] This is why he felt it necessary

[00:35:50] to expose the truth about MLK

[00:35:51] and his prolific, adulterous relationships,

[00:35:54] especially since his popularity

[00:35:56] is even higher than Jesus himself.

[00:35:58] Well, I beg to differ on that.

[00:36:01] Probably global statistics would say otherwise,

[00:36:04] but I take your point, Cora.

[00:36:06] However, she says, you also believe in following the truth

[00:36:09] and doing what is right irrespective of consequences

[00:36:12] as you illustrated was speaking

[00:36:14] of the overturning of Roe.

[00:36:17] Who cares if it was strategic?

[00:36:18] It was the right thing to do.

[00:36:20] Secondly, when Charlie has spoken negatively

[00:36:23] of the Civil Rights Act

[00:36:24] it's because it has been weaponized in ways

[00:36:26] it was obviously never meant to be used to support.

[00:36:30] You also believe this

[00:36:31] and think we just need to use it for our side.

[00:36:33] Now, I only say all this

[00:36:35] because I believe we are really on the same side

[00:36:37] and I hate to see him fighting

[00:36:39] like watching your parents, you love RQ.

[00:36:42] Okay, I'm gonna stop right here Cora.

[00:36:44] I'm gonna read the rest of this letter

[00:36:45] because it's very good.

[00:36:46] But this is actually a point of annoyance for me

[00:36:50] and this is not a personal insult directed at you.

[00:36:54] But let it be said,

[00:36:57] I dislike when I receive responses like this from people

[00:37:01] when I'm criticizing other conservatives.

[00:37:03] People say, I don't like the infighting

[00:37:05] and I just want you to know it's not infighting.

[00:37:08] I'm not fighting with Charlie.

[00:37:10] I know Charlie personally.

[00:37:12] He knows my name.

[00:37:13] I know his name.

[00:37:15] We have been in many situations together,

[00:37:18] had many conversations.

[00:37:19] So I do know him personally.

[00:37:22] I'm not just talking about somebody I don't know.

[00:37:24] And we're not fighting.

[00:37:26] We're disagreeing and that's really important.

[00:37:30] And so let's not infantilize intelligent

[00:37:34] and well thought out disagreement.

[00:37:36] And I do believe that Charlie

[00:37:38] has thought out his position at length.

[00:37:41] I mean, he talks every day for a living.

[00:37:43] So he thinks about these issues all the time.

[00:37:45] He's highly educated and he's very intelligent.

[00:37:48] So his arguments are thought out

[00:37:50] and I'm responding to those.

[00:37:52] It's not infighting.

[00:37:53] And I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear

[00:37:56] on my criticisms of him.

[00:37:58] But if we can't criticize our own side,

[00:38:00] what are we doing?

[00:38:01] I'm asking the left to do that,

[00:38:04] to be introspective.

[00:38:05] And so I'm definitely doing this on the right.

[00:38:07] So again, that's not directed at you

[00:38:10] but this is something that I get a lot.

[00:38:12] And I just want everyone to know

[00:38:13] you don't have to panic.

[00:38:14] You don't have to panic when I am criticizing

[00:38:17] other conservative commentators and podcasters.

[00:38:22] It's just criticism, it's not infighting.

[00:38:25] All right, she goes on to say,

[00:38:29] unlike the left, we don't fall in lockstep

[00:38:31] with our thoughts and beliefs coming from the top.

[00:38:33] So I think it's healthy, we can disagree

[00:38:35] as long as we realize this often only nuance.

[00:38:38] That said, I personally come down

[00:38:39] on both of these issues more on your perspective.

[00:38:42] I believe it's fine in the truth of MLK

[00:38:44] that the truth of MLK is known,

[00:38:46] but just because all men are flawed

[00:38:48] doesn't mean they're not capable of greatness.

[00:38:50] And as you noted, that's how the right

[00:38:52] views the founding fathers

[00:38:54] and that's how we should see the Reverend Martin Luther King.

[00:38:56] And I agree that even if you wanted to move

[00:38:59] the Overton window by getting out the truth on MLK

[00:39:02] now is strategically not the best time.

[00:39:05] As for the Civil Rights Act,

[00:39:06] clearly it was extremely necessary

[00:39:08] and finally gave rights to dispossessed groups

[00:39:11] that even though rightfully granted

[00:39:13] under the Constitution blacks weren't getting.

[00:39:16] Plus it's supposed to give protections

[00:39:17] to us Christians constantly being discriminated against.

[00:39:21] So we need to use it in the courtroom too.

[00:39:23] Well, Kira, I don't wanna write you a book.

[00:39:25] I just didn't want you to wrongly assume

[00:39:27] Charlie is some clickbait grifter

[00:39:30] trying to get more popular.

[00:39:32] I believe he is genuine just like I know you are.

[00:39:34] We all see things a little differently at times.

[00:39:37] Keep pushing us to think, love you.

[00:39:40] Thank you for that very thoughtful

[00:39:42] and well thought out email, Kora.

[00:39:45] And again, I want to reiterate,

[00:39:46] I do know Charlie personally.

[00:39:48] So I'm not talking about somebody that I don't know.

[00:39:50] So yeah, and I know things about Charlie.

[00:39:55] I know things about how he's living his life

[00:39:57] and what he's doing.

[00:39:58] So I definitely feel confident to

[00:40:03] render a bit of judgment

[00:40:04] and I don't think my judgment was harsh.

[00:40:06] And you're not saying it was by the way

[00:40:09] your letter is perfect.

[00:40:10] You have laid out your plans perfectly

[00:40:12] and now I'm just responding to that imaginary viewer

[00:40:16] who may have been more upset with me criticizing Charlie.

[00:40:19] But yeah, and I think I went to Great Pains

[00:40:21] in that podcast too to make sure

[00:40:23] that everyone knew I don't think Charlie's a racist

[00:40:25] and never have.

[00:40:27] And I encourage him to keep talking.

[00:40:30] That's what we do.

[00:40:31] That's what we're supposed to do

[00:40:33] and good ideas, bad ideas.

[00:40:35] There is an overlap with us.

[00:40:36] And again, if you like Charlie,

[00:40:38] you should continue to enjoy him.

[00:40:41] And he says a lot of things that are right

[00:40:44] and good and make good sense.

[00:40:46] And frankly, I've been to TPUSA conferences.

[00:40:50] I love what they're doing over there.

[00:40:52] I'm a bit old for it now.

[00:40:56] Cause they have like DJs and smoke machines.

[00:40:58] It's just not the typical Republican conferences I go to.

[00:41:01] But it's really great.

[00:41:03] Well, I, Korra, thank you so much for listening.

[00:41:05] And I really appreciate your thoughtfulness

[00:41:07] about that particular topic.

[00:41:10] And as you said, I think I agree with you most of all,

[00:41:15] but there are nuances.

[00:41:17] I have the best listeners.

[00:41:19] I have such thoughtful listeners.

[00:41:23] The emails I get are,

[00:41:27] they're never ridiculous, even the mean ones.

[00:41:29] They're never well,

[00:41:30] I may have gotten one or two ridiculous ones,

[00:41:32] but mostly it's people thinking through the topic

[00:41:36] and what I said.

[00:41:37] And to me, that's the ultimate compliment.

[00:41:45] Hey y'all, this is Allie Michelle.

[00:41:47] I'm a conservative social media influencer

[00:41:50] that has been censored by Big Tech.

[00:41:52] So I broke away from the restrictions

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[00:42:23] Okay, we'll end with this.

[00:42:25] It's a bit of a long letter,

[00:42:26] but this is a long time listener,

[00:42:30] someone who's been a huge support of mine

[00:42:32] and we often communicate about

[00:42:35] faith issues and education issues.

[00:42:38] And she actually wrote to me

[00:42:41] and I don't think she's ever written me a letter before

[00:42:45] in regards to one of my episodes

[00:42:47] and it was really good.

[00:42:48] So I'm gonna read this.

[00:42:50] This was about raising your kids in faith.

[00:42:54] This is from Rachel.

[00:42:55] Rachel says, this might be my first listener response email

[00:43:01] and not because the subject matter

[00:43:02] may be super happy or super upset,

[00:43:05] but mainly just because I have a lot of thoughts

[00:43:07] on parents raising their children in the faith.

[00:43:11] My brother and I were both raised in the faith

[00:43:13] and we both have grown into people

[00:43:16] who independently follow Jesus,

[00:43:18] married other Christians

[00:43:19] and raise our own kids in the faith.

[00:43:22] And wanting my kids to independently follow after Christ,

[00:43:26] I know it's not independent of the Holy Spirit, ha,

[00:43:29] just not under compulsion from me

[00:43:31] is very important to me,

[00:43:33] especially since we have moved in the past 10 years

[00:43:35] from what Aaron Wren called neutral world,

[00:43:39] the world Gen X grew up in

[00:43:41] where the secular worldview viewed Christianity

[00:43:44] with a take it or leave it attitude

[00:43:45] to a negative world where the secular world now scorns

[00:43:49] openly hates and mocks people with a biblical worldview.

[00:43:53] Many so-called Christians are still operating

[00:43:55] as if we are in a neutral world

[00:43:58] or further back in positive world

[00:43:59] where the world would really love Christians

[00:44:02] if we just knew how to show Jesus in the right way.

[00:44:05] So knowing that my kids will have serious pushback

[00:44:07] from the world, they say things like men can't be women

[00:44:10] and there are only two genders

[00:44:12] and Jesus calls us to holiness,

[00:44:14] you aren't perfect the way you are.

[00:44:17] I wanna know that they will stand firm in the faith

[00:44:19] because they truly love Jesus

[00:44:21] and love his word and his bride.

[00:44:23] And for those non-Christians,

[00:44:25] bride is how the Bible refers to the church,

[00:44:28] the bride of Christ.

[00:44:30] I grew up in a great church

[00:44:31] with the fantastic children's and youth ministry.

[00:44:33] Both my brother and I love church

[00:44:36] and where they are every time the doors open

[00:44:38] because my mom played the piano and dad was in the choir.

[00:44:41] We did Sunday school, church, children's choir,

[00:44:44] youth trips, mission trips,

[00:44:45] but we had friends who were right there with us

[00:44:48] doing all the same activities

[00:44:49] with parents just as dedicated to church attendance

[00:44:53] and who are now atheists.

[00:44:55] Why?

[00:44:55] I think two reasons.

[00:44:57] I have no real statistics other than broad observation

[00:45:01] and the interwebs.

[00:45:02] So one, and she says this is strictly

[00:45:05] because I am reformed and believed in election.

[00:45:08] Again, to my non-Christian Christian listeners,

[00:45:14] I don't know what to tell you,

[00:45:14] just look up the difference between Calvinists

[00:45:17] and non-Calvinist election

[00:45:22] and the non-elected, all right.

[00:45:24] But she believes in election,

[00:45:26] being appointed ahead of time by the Holy Spirit.

[00:45:28] Okay.

[00:45:29] The Holy Spirit drew me and didn't draw them.

[00:45:32] They played all the games.

[00:45:33] They hug out with the sheep in the sheep pen

[00:45:36] and they had a great time, but they were goats.

[00:45:38] And she refers to Matthew 25.

[00:45:40] And two, and she says this does put some

[00:45:43] of the onus on us as Christian parents,

[00:45:46] we have a duty to raise our children

[00:45:48] in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

[00:45:51] But I believe they have to believe

[00:45:53] that we really love Jesus ourselves.

[00:45:55] We don't just raise them to do it because it's what's done.

[00:45:59] It goes all the way down to the identity level.

[00:46:01] A sheep is always a sheep,

[00:46:04] maybe lost one day found and brought into the fold,

[00:46:07] but a sheep nonetheless.

[00:46:09] We go to church because we are in a family,

[00:46:11] the family of God, it's who we are.

[00:46:14] And two A, she says we also have to teach them

[00:46:17] how to make their faith their own.

[00:46:19] Encourage them to go on all the trips

[00:46:20] and do all the activities.

[00:46:22] Encourage them to do missions.

[00:46:23] Youth group is where I learned to have a quiet time

[00:46:25] and take hold of my own walk with the Lord.

[00:46:28] If church doesn't do children

[00:46:30] and youth activities missions, do it as a family.

[00:46:33] Be an example by serving as well in your local church.

[00:46:37] I'm not saying overdo it

[00:46:38] so you're at church all the time

[00:46:40] and don't have family time,

[00:46:41] but my parents served and loved it.

[00:46:43] I served and still serve and love it.

[00:46:46] My eldest daughter is now singing the youth worship

[00:46:48] in the youth worship band

[00:46:50] and helping the K-1 class once a month.

[00:46:53] I'm not saying rule two is foolproof.

[00:46:55] Rule one still applies,

[00:46:57] but rule two is good to keep in mind,

[00:46:59] to be obedient to the Lord as Christian parents.

[00:47:03] And I think that is an excellent email to end on.

[00:47:09] Good advice from a listener

[00:47:11] on raising your children in the faith.

[00:47:12] And I will say I feel the same way.

[00:47:14] And in fact, this is one of the reasons why we left,

[00:47:18] our previous church, our pre-COVID church.

[00:47:22] I wasn't happy with how they handled COVID,

[00:47:24] but also I wasn't happy with what I thought

[00:47:27] was the fluffiness of the youth ministry

[00:47:30] and they weren't really presenting hard topics

[00:47:34] for our kids to deal with.

[00:47:35] And as a result, I was watching them go away to college

[00:47:37] and deconstruct.

[00:47:38] The church I'm in now actually has

[00:47:41] a college bound ministry,

[00:47:44] particularly for juniors and seniors in high school.

[00:47:47] And it's a six month program.

[00:47:49] And it is dedicated to solidifying kids in their faith,

[00:47:55] to a lodging through topics that they're going to face

[00:47:59] when they get to college

[00:48:01] and helping them become more solid

[00:48:04] in a biblical response to those issues and topics.

[00:48:07] I think that's excellent.

[00:48:08] I think it's wonderful.

[00:48:09] And I'm really pleased to be in this type of church.

[00:48:13] And then of course, I always encourage my children

[00:48:15] as well.

[00:48:16] This is our faith.

[00:48:18] My husband was raised in a Christian family, right?

[00:48:20] Just like Rachel was.

[00:48:21] And so he had all the mechanics of it down,

[00:48:24] but I had a conversion experience.

[00:48:27] And while that might seem like an advantage

[00:48:29] because I might be more passionate or motivated

[00:48:32] than maybe someone who was raised in the faith,

[00:48:36] I see it as a disadvantage

[00:48:38] because I wasn't raised in the faith.

[00:48:41] And so I had to do a lot of guessing

[00:48:44] about how to establish a faith-based household.

[00:48:48] And also I'm raising kids who aren't gonna have

[00:48:51] that necessary, that very stark conversion experience

[00:48:55] where you have this really exciting thing happen to you.

[00:48:59] And it changes your life completely.

[00:49:02] They're not gonna have that

[00:49:03] because they at least have the surface level idea

[00:49:06] of what a Christian home is.

[00:49:07] So I think in a way it's been a disadvantage.

[00:49:11] And so Rachel, thank you for that advice.

[00:49:13] I will continue to take this advice

[00:49:16] as I move forward with my children and my family.

[00:49:19] All right, well, let me know what you think.

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