Ep. 257 - What’s the Deal With Gens?
Pillow Talk with Alii MichelleDecember 11, 202301:02:5557.47 MB

Ep. 257 - What’s the Deal With Gens?

GenZ has had a lot of criticism for GenX on social media lately. What is GenX good for? What do we need to do better? Kira explores the defining qualities of GenX and why they might be the last, best hope for sanity.
This is the FCNB podcast network. A prayers Masoda that we won't with math and then we won't to say, oh we got it does? No one can take that? Owenday this gonna be okay? A prayers that we won't with Maath, then we won't to say oh we got it does? No one can take that owayn May this don't be okay? Well, everybody, welcome back to another episode. Just listen to yourself with Kia Davis. I'm your host, Kara Davis, and I understand that I've kind of been in and out from podcasting lately. It's been a challenging few months, which is interesting because I did that podcast on Joy and remember you guys were listening to me talk about how I was feeling a bit euphoric and I wasn't sure what it was, and I was like, is the other shoe gonna drop? I think the other shoe dropped. But I'm really glad I did the podcast because I needed it and so I'm feeling equipped. So I'm glad. Thank you for bearing with me. I guess is what I'm really trying to say. I understand that I'm not getting you regular content right now, but just no, I'm not ending the podcast, nothing like that. I'm still dealing with the fallout from my father's estate as I try to settle his estate across the country, which is difficult. Of course, you guys may or may not know. I'm churning fifty and twenty twenty four, so I'm going through that, and I'm about to be an empty nester. A lot of things are changing for me, so I'm changing too, and as I cope with that or deal with that transition, I as you guys have probably noticed, I haven't necessarily been keeping up with work as I should. I want to also take the time to say I'm very grateful that I don't have to. I have an amazing crew at FCB who support me, and it's nothing but a word to say, hey, guys, I'm going through a little something right now, and just bear with me. And then, of course, I'm very blessed to be in a situation where if I don't work, the bills still get paid. So I'm feeling grateful. I'm still feeling joy, but I'm definitely feeling challenged, and you can probably hear that in my voice. I'm a bit fatigued lately. The other thing that's happened to me is I'm sober, one hundred days sober today as I record this. So I'm really proud of myself for that I'm not an alcoholic. I was worried, though, I actually did kind of ask myself that question, because after my father's death, I definitely was turning to the bottle a lot more than usual to cope. I probably have been doing that for a while, but it came to a head and I just over the summer had the realization, you know what, I don't think that this is helping me deal with issues I need to deal with upfront and face head on. So I made the decision to give up drinking because I felt like it was a crutch and I was a little concerned that maybe I was an alcoholic. Now that I have one hundred days, I can see that I'm not and I wasn't. But I definitely was a problematic drinker and it wasn't helping me cope. It was doing the opposite, right, So, one hundred days in, I feel a lot more clarity, but I definitely feel a lot more tired energy wise, and I think really that is just because when you don't have that distraction. For many of you out there, it might not be a distraction, but for me, that's what it was. When you don't have that distraction, Yeah, you have to face your issues. You have to look at them, and it's exhausting, it's tiring. So I do feel a little fatigue, but I'm very proud of myself for reaching one hundred days. They say your brain changes after three months of sobriety, it'll change again after six months, and it'll change again after twelve months. So I went to see my therapist, which I do off and on when I need a spot check, and so I was telling him what I was going through, and he was like, yeah, this is good what you're doing, but also I would like to caution you not to make any major decisions. For a while, it was like, your brain is changing, and you're actually not. Although you're feeling more clarity, you're not in a position to be making like changing decisions because you actually don't have all your faculties right now. So I'm working on getting all my faculties back. Everybody, thanks for your patience while I do that. But I feel much better than I have in years, much more clear, and this was originally only going to be a little break. I had challenged myself to a month, and I white knuckled it that first month. You know, I stayed sober by just not doing anything or going anywhere and sleeping a lot, and thought, when that month is up, i'll quit. But then the month was up, and like I thought to myself, I haven't really done anything. I don't feel like I've changed. I've just sort of been gripping the sides of my chair for a month, waiting for the day when I can take another drink. So I decided to do another month, and that month was significantly easier. So I decided to just do it through the holidays, and now that I'm at day one hundred, I think I'm going to push for a year. I don't have a problem being around people drinking. I can go to bars, I can go to parties, so that's not my issue. I don't see people drinking or even smell it and go, oh my gosh, I really want to drink. I'm so tempted. It's not like that at all, but I just want to see how my brain change. I'm so shocked by the significant changes in the way I've been thinking in just one hundred days. I really am curious, curious to see what happens at a year. So we'll we'll explore that, and I'm sure you'll hear me talking about this a lot more on the podcast. In fact, you guys may or may not know Bridget Petsy. She's a great, prolific podcaster. She's got a great podcast, walkins Welcome. I did her podcast a few years ago. It was the first time we had met in person, and it was a long discussion. But through the course of the discussion, at one point we talked about her sobriety. She's been in recovery for many years now, and I said, well, what do you do when you're stressed, when you feel emotions, because I take a drink, but you don't have that option. And she said, well, really, sobriety is about learning to sit in your discomfort and learning how to just feel those things. And I had no designs on sobriety at the time, and I didn't even think I had a problem at the time, but what she said really sat with me, really really sat with me, and it's always been on my heart and I think about it a lot, and it caused me, I think, to start noticing when I was reaching for a drink, and I connected the dots and realized, oh, I'm reaching for a drink when i'm when I'm really in distress. And so one day I just was right before Labor Day because I was like, well, I got to wait till after Labor Day. I'll wait till after Labor Day because we all have parties and drink on Labor Day. And then I thought, well, if I can't, there's gonna be no right time. If I can't do this now, then I can't do it later because after Labor Day comes Halloween, and after Halloween comes things giving, and then Christmas and the New Year's So I just pulled the trigger and did it. So glad I did it, And yeah, I'm going to push for a year and see how that goes. So thanks for all the encouragement and thanks for sticking with me, and I'm going to try to be lucid and alert. But as you can hear, probably I am very fatigued. I'm definitely feeling it, and it's definitely a mental fatigue and I'm for sure seeing it when I'm on TV or radio this day, these days. So one of the side effects of dealing with this is that I haven't been caring so much about what's been going on in pop culture and politics, which makes it hard to do this show right because that's what we do here. But I was feeling inspired today because I saw a Twitter video, Twitter, TikTok, social media, they're all the same these days. It was about gen xers, and the gen X thing is something I've been thinking about a lot lately too, the difference between our generations, what gen X is being required to do now or what we should or shouldn't be required to do now. But also there is this social media trend of gen zers accusing gen xers of messing up their lives, kind of like we do with the boomers. The only difference is that the boomers deserve it and we don't. And it's funny because I was flying out. I just got back from Omaha this week. I was visiting a good friend in Omaha and on the flight, I was sitting next to a lady. We got into a conversation. She was around my age. We started talking about gen X and the difference between gen X and gen Z, and she started to make some apologies for our generation. I said, no, absolutely not, do not do that. We're the only blameless generation. I know, I know that's not true. I was being facetious, but it did make me start thinking, what are some of the upsides of gen X? What are some of the downsides? And what is our responsibility as to the genesis or excuse me, to the evolution of American society as we move forward. But I haven't quite known how to frame it. So when I saw this video, I thought, oh, this is perfect. Being in my state of mind, I do not have the functionality to do a highly academic discussion right now, but I was pleasantly surprised to see some things are still provoking some kind of passion in response for me. So let's do this. You may have seen this video. It's kind of viral, and there's this guy on TikTok that he asked a question who let gen X off the hook? He's a gen zare gen zer a gen z a air. I keep thinking of Zendaya as gen Z and it's getting mixed up gen Zia. Anyway, he's being rude, he's being a little crap head, basically, like a lot of y'all gen zers out there, and he's like, who let gen X off the hook? So a bunch of gen xers stitched that. Now, if you don't know much about social media, a stitch is where you can take a piece of another commentary, show that, and then add your commentary to it. Here's what I'm gonna do. I am going to play this video. It's about four minutes long, but I'm going to stop it and I'm going to start comment I'm going to make commentary on what I think is being said, and I'm going to add my own color commentary because here's the question I asked myself, what is gen X good for? And what is gen X's responsibility moving forward? I think that's a valid question xer that we can ask ourselves because we are the leave me alone generation, but we're still Americans, so we actually still have a responsibility to shape and mold this society. And if we take that hands off approach, what are we doing? So let's get started. I want to apologize in advance. I'm sorry Darvy O. He's gonna have to do a lot of bleeping because there is some language in here. There it will be safe for your kids. To listen to because Darvo is gonna bleep this out. But just so you know that's there, let's go who let jet X off the hook? Why are we talking about those guys? Don't do that, sir. I don't know what game you're playing, but we do not invokeen X for a reason. They are the Lost generation because they want to be lost. We do not need to go find them. They're perfect where they are. You know how, Millennials, we've seen some shit and then we talk a lot about it all the time. Gen X has seen more, but they don't talk. They just stare. I love that. So when I was running our after school program and Gary get a lot of unruly kids in there, and it's difficult. I've talked about this on the show. I know before. It's very difficult to be in community service in communities where there aren't many dads or aren't many men, because not only is it a lot of the women doing the heavy lifting, but then what happens is, especially with young boys, you get them into your program and they're just surrounded by women. So this is really hard for them. To listen to more women. It's always a challenge, and so you have to approach it with an equal measure of tenderness and discipline. Now, we obviously never physically disciplined any of the kids in the program, and we didn't because we were an after school program and we didn't really have It's not the same as being at school, where you have ways to discipline a kid with detention or a drop in a grade or something like that. But I had a look. It was the look. I didn't need to threaten those kids. And that's the other thing. I didn't spend a lot of time threatening kids. And you don't have to do that when there's consequences. So you deliver one or two simple consequences, and then you need the look. And one day some of my boys were cutting up in our classroom and I had just had enough and I looked over there, I said, Willie, Caleb, and that's it. They looked at me, and I looked at them, and they stopped what they were doing, put down whatever nonsense they were messing with, went back to their desks, picked up their homework, and continued on. And my millennial assistant said to me, miss Kira, how do I do what you do? I was like, do what? And she said, Look, the look. How do I get the look? The look that says do what I tell you or else? How do you make them do that? Now? That's the gen X look. Girl, that's the stare. Don't start on, won't be none. So I love what that guy was dead on. We don't need the threats or the gift giving or the begging. We have the look, hot topics, the news of the day, in depth interviews, and a whole lot more. This is the Outlaws Radio Show. Subscribe to the show on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts today. That's out Laws, The Outlaws Radio Show, n FCB podcast. Let's continue on with this next woman. Now, she is the daughter of gen xers and she's got a message. We all did. We did. We had a meeting. I'm not sure if you missed it. I don't even know if you're you have qualifications to be invited, But the millennials decided that we're just we're not gonna we're not going to open that can words. Let me tell you something about gen X. Both my parents are gen X. I'll make this real simple, real easy. No, because gen X kids were brought up, I mean they were the latch key kids. They were all right. I love what she says. She says more great stuff. We're going to continue, but she says, let me make this easy. No. And I do think that that is the word that can define gen X. If you listen to this show, you can hear me say no. Every show kind of is about no. I guess if we distilled all of my reasoning as to why I started this show, why I have these discussions, I think at one point, and this is certainly why I wrote my book drawing why conservatives don't begin to battle fiercely in the arena of ideas available wherever books are sold, because at some point you realize someone has to say no. Sometimes the answer is just no. Millennial parents, are you hearing me? Gen Zers? Are you hearing me? Sometimes the answer is no, and there's there need not be any discussion. I cannot tell you how much it irks me to see a parent get down on their knees, like in the middle of the store where their child has just done something horrific and sort of do this gentle parenting thing where you try to explain things and let me hear your feelings. And I'm not saying that that's always a bad thing, and there are certainly different styles of parenting, but sometimes you need a no, and your kid doesn't need the explanation. Gen Z, listen to me. You're not owed an explanation for everything. Sometimes it's just no. It's telling my friend. One day I was in Costco and I saw this five year old kid. He wanted something candy or a sample, probably a sample. The mother said no, which she had every right to do, and he kicked her, kicked her right in her leg and it was hard. Man. I'm sorry to be laughing, but oh, this is insane. He kicked her right her leg. Me, as a gen X parent, my response would have been and by the way, I want to tell you, there's only been one time in my whole career as a parent where a child of mine has done something like that in public, and you best believe it never happened again. But as a gen X parents, my response is, well, I think hood Kira would have just whooped my kid right there, because in the hood, nobody cares. I'm in California now people are gonna care. It's a different time. I get that people are gonna call CPS on you, but That is certainly a time for you to just drop everything and take your kid out and then carry on whatever your disciplinary disciplinary measures are later on. That is a time when you say no, this is not acceptable. I can already hear some of you with your butts. This is another thing I was expressing to my friend the other day, because when I tell this story, there's always somebody, Usually it's a millennial who says, well, maybe he was autistic. When didn't we start blaming autism for every misbehavior? It's no some most children, in fact, are just brats. And I'm sorry, but if you have autism, that also doesn't give you license to be a brat. Autism isn't something that prevents children from being behaved. It's a neurological issue. But I'm sorry forgive my language here, but autism is an excuse. Isn't an excuse to be an asshole, And it's not an excuse as a parent to raise an asshole. My friend, whose brother was mentally handicapped, and so her and her family spent their whole lives in that community. Her brother, in fact, was a gold medal winner in Special Olympics. Even she was saying no, that we never let those kids get away with that behavior, because that's treating them like they're not people, and they are people. Anyways, I'm going off in a tangent famous Davis cybar. But when I was looking at her and I was thinking, no, that's a time for a no. Not just because your kid's being a brat and you should discipline them, but because that child is gonna grow up and so he needs to know what no means, and he needs to know that there's consequences for kicking people because you don't get what you want. So gen X, yeah, sometimes we got to just say no, and we do very often. I'm going to talk about that a bit later on. I'm going to talk about the pros and the cons of that, because there are both. But I loved how she framed that. Uh, you know, let me make this real simple for you. It's no. I think we could just put that on a T shirt for gen X and it would perfectly describe us, the first real generation of latchkey kid. But like they also didn't really have the Internet, and if you wanted to hurt someone's feelings, you had to do it to their face. You had to do it to their face. Right. Gen X practically invented the saying I have time, like groan to find out how much time I have talk get hit. That's not my generation, that was gen X. You want to know why because they square. Oh man, if you find a gen X is not physibly violent, they don't hurt faces, they hurt feelings. I was raised by a pacifist because I don't hurt faces. I hurt feelings. Just don't. We don't need to wake up gen X. They're fine more. Yeah, leave us alone, because you don't. You f around and find out. And I'm gonna be honest with everybody. I think that's what's happening right now. I think that's what's happening. And I do want to tell gen X, my fellow gen xers, there's a time for no, and there's a time for that dismissal. I do it often every day. I'm sure you do too, where you see a meltdown happening with a gen Zer of some kind and you just sort of wave your hand and you're just like, I don't have time for it. But if you want to keep pushing me, if you want to keep pushing these buttons, okay, go ahead and f around, and yeah, find out, because you know what you'll think. Find out that thirty yards yard stare across the room from Miss Kira has a lot of rage and a lot of action behind it. And if you want to find out, don't be mad. Don't be mad about what happens afterwards. I dare say, since ultimately everything these days is about Trump, that this is how we got Trump. Okay, you guys want to be little jerks, You guys want to be little a holes. You guys wanna do your whole safe spaces and language is violence thing. Okay, we'll go along to get along. For so long, we gave y'all Obama. We let that happen. Some of us were even very jazzed to vote for him, even the Conservatives and Republicans among us. There are many who could not resist the opportunity to elect the first black president. Well, we let y'all get away with that one. But you got cocky. You thought things had changed forever, and then you thought you were in charge. Y'all left around, and guess what in twenty sixteen you found out. Please do not make the mistake, or go ahead and make the mistake. Do what you want I'm a Gen X. Do whatever you want at this point. Don't make the mistake of thinking that twenty twenty was some kind of reset and suddenly all these people have gone away, and suddenly you know, Republicans are never going to win another election. We've fixed it, because when I look around, I see a bunch of people, particularly in Generation X, who have said, Okay, if around time is over, it's time to find out. So you're seeing more of a US file lawsuits right, use the avenues that are available, that are available to us, filing lawsuits against our school boards. You see more of us running for offices local and federal. You see more of us deciding not to be quiet. And that's what I'm seeing happening. And I can tell you that this is a real phenomenon because it's not something that's just exclusive to the right. Because I'm the right. Of course, people like me, you expect us to be the truth tellers. And yeah, of course we're out there. We're doing we're doing it. We're saying the things no one wants to say. But when you see that bleed into secular culture, that's significant. And I'm watching Gen X entertainers like Sarah Silverman, Dave Chappelle, various artists in the music genre, take your pick. I'm sure you can think of plenty of examples that you've seen on Twitter and elsewhere where. These are people who are they're liberals or Bill Maher might be. I guess we could. I guess Bill Marcy. Yeah, he's gen X, probably on the older end of gen X. But you what you're seeing is them saying, hey, I'm a liberal, and I'm still a liberal, but we may have gone a little bit too far. Once you start banning speech, once you start telling people what jokes you're allowed to make, once you start affecting my career, right my life. Now I'm seeing perhaps this has gone a little too far. That's significant to me. I think that is a significant change. I think that's a sign that this is not just a political thing. But gen X is beginning to enter their no era. That's what I'm saying. Let us continue, because sir, we will fuck you up. We fought in real life, not on the internet. We are the last generation of parom children. We didn't have safe spaces, we didn't have trigger warnings. No one was allergic to plutants. We mine are on the this we are older than Google, we are not the bigger person. Leave us alone. Of course, we were that first generation of real latchkey kids and no Internet, which I love that idea of the last woman said this too, but the idea we don't have the key. You know, the keyboards have really made a lot of people bold I was saying recently, and to be honest, me and DARVYO probably say this every other time we talk to each other on the phone. But there should be some kind of constitutional requirement to get punched in the fates. You know how Israelis require service, and other nations do, like South Korea does, but they require military service. I think you have to do one year or two years in Israel. I think America should require everyone to get punched in the fates once. Should be like what you have to do to get your high school diploma. And here's why, because when you when you get hit real good once for something that you did, but even not even still, you don't want to be hit again. That's the whole point of spanking, really, But it makes you a little more aware of how you're addressing people and talking to people, and even people who are jerks and deserve to be hit. You start to have a sense about how far you're going to push people and what exactly what exact consequences you're willing to pay. So there are many, many, many situations in our lives as gen xers where we've looked at it, made the calculations and said, you know what, Nah, I don't feel like getting a bloody nose today. So even though that lady does deserve to be told about herself, I'm gonna walk away because at the end of the day, I don't have time for it, Just like that lady said, I'll have time for this. That might be the problem with gen Z. Do they have too much? Y'all have too much time? Yeah, too much time on your hands. Idle hands are the devil's playground. Ooh, it's not just a cliche, people, but I love that idea that because we didn't have the internet, we had to say things to people's faces. That is why I think part of a big part of why I'm conservative and a Republican. When I tell my story and I tell people, and I've never really told the whole story because it's actually, to my mind unbelievable. The few times i've actually really told people what I've gone through as a child. They told me I was lying. I'm not sure if I'll ever be ready to share everything that I went through, but you guys have probably heard the most of it if you're a faithful listener to this show. And I think that's why I get asked a lot. People say, well, you went through all this, like real, horrible, genuine racism and racial abuse for you to come out on the other side with your pro American, pro constitutional values, how do you do that? Of course, ultimately and always the answer is Jesus, without a doubt. But I think another part of the answer is that because I did get hit in the face because the end word Kane simultaneously with a clenched fist, I have felt the physical ramifications of racism. And so if you want to call me a name, okay that I can deal with, please just don't injure my beautiful face. You start to realize, you because you know what real consequences are, and you know what real physical confrontation is. Everything's relative. You start to put things in perspective, and gen Z I believe, and please also my gen Z listeners, if you're not part of that gen Z weirdness, then I'm not talking to you. So just know I understand their exceptions to the rules, and thank you for being you, and please continue to influence your generation. So I'm not talking about you, but generally speaking, gen z ers think words are violence because they've never actually had to experience the consequences of their words. That's why in gen X world there are consequences. You say a nasty thing to somebody enough times, you're getting a black eye. In gen Z world, everything you say is behind a keyboard, and so you can seem really brave and seem really tough, and no one knows that you haven't been out of your house in seven months. You don't have the consequences. You don't know how to You don't know how to act right if you don't know what consequences are. So yeah, I think everybody in America should have to get hit in the phase one time. Real good because it gives you a respect for boundaries that gen Z does not seem to have. Hot topics, the news of the day, in depth interviews, and a whole lot more. It's The Outlaws Radio Show. Subscribe to the show on Apple, Spotify, iHeart or wherever you get your podcasts today, that's out Laws, the Outlaws radio show, NFCB podcast. Let us move on. Oh my, poor boy, nobody let us off the hook. They just don't want to smoke with us. We're still out here fighting the boomers, raising the millennials. Putting a roof over gen Z's head. Let me by the way, you're welcome, and you're welcome, he says, we're raising the millennials. My opinion, and this is just an opinion. It's really not based in science or data or anything anecdotal. My opinion is that millennials for much older Gen X, maybe at the almost boomer boundary. Yes, some of them have given birth to the millennial generation. But for the most part, I believe the millennials are the second families of boomers. So boomers did their hippie thing with my age range, with my range of Gen xers. Naturally, it was an utter disaster. Most of them divorced, for many of them divorced, became adults somewhere along the way finally and decided, okay, I want to try this again. I have some experience behind me. You get your second family, and yeah, you have a lot of guilt because you've abandoned that first family or broken up that first family, or even if you've done a good job, you can't experience breaking up a family without having some guilt. And so they've raised the millennials out of guilt. That's what That's what boomers did. They raised the millennials out of guilt, and those millennials became the participation trophy generation. And because the Boomers still weren't really raising those kids, they were just doing the lazy version of parenting, a lot of us gen xers ended up being the people who were raising younger siblings, or at least morally speaking, if that makes sense. And I know I've talked to a lot of gen xers who really feel like they were the ones raising their much younger siblings while their parents did whatever. So we're not responsible. I refuse to believe gen X is responsible for the Millennials. The millennials are partially responsible for gen Z, but gen X gen Z's on us. One percent believe that gen Z is on us. Gen Z has taken what the millennials have done because the millennials figured out some pretty powerful things that we did not figure out. Because we didn't care. So they had figured out some pretty powerful things about the Internet and its influence, and that's influenced gen Z. But I'm going to talk about this in a bit. We have really dropped the ball on our responsibility to counteract that influence. Let's let this, fine, gentlemen continue. We were raised different. We drank water from a garden holes. All our toys had led in them. If you wanted to play with your friends, we actually had to go outside and play. If we busted our ass, we shook it off. If we wanted to watch a movie, we had to program a thing called the VCR, and god forbid, you had to pause that movie and go somewhere. We had to remember exactly where it left off. I was talking to my friend the other day about X Files and how we would at one point it was on on Friday nights in the nineties, and how we would not go out on Friday nights so we could stay home and watch exiles, because that's what you had to do. If you wanted to catch your show on TV, you had to be there. You had to be there. And there are a lot of gen Zers now who are having what they think are authentic experiences without quote being there. They're having quote deep conversations on the Internet, but they're not there I can talk to. I just got back from a week long visit with my good friend Wendy. We had a wonderful time. We don't see each other very much. She's a military wife and so they bounce around and I live in California and it's hard to get out of here. We don't see each other very much, and we talk all the time, we text all the time, but there's still no replacement for being face to face and being able to talk face to face hours and hours on end. So even though we've known each other for years and consider ourselves as the closest to friends, to be their face to face was another step in our relationship, and it definitely strengthened and deepened that bond. But gen Z is under the mistaken assumption that you can be present without being present. You can live vicariously through your TikTok, you can live vicariously through Instagram, which causes all kinds of anxiety, right because you're looking at the influencers and you're saying, well, that's how they're living, that's how I should be living, but I'm not. What's wrong with me? Well, gen X got to see how y'all was really living inside your neighbor's home, because that's how we had to do it. We wanted to talk to somebody, we wanted to see somebody. We went over to their home. We played with them, we went out after work. We were in each other's homes, so we knew, darn well you didn't have a perfect home. We could see, we could open that one junk drawer where every all the mess just got piled into. Y'all weren't cleaning, you were just move and message. We get to see, we get to see each other in our flaws, and it was normal and it seemed normal. That give you gave you a greater appreciation for just the normality of people and what normal life looks like. Gen Z doesn't have that benefit. They don't even go to each other's houses Hardley anymore. Even gen X, you know, we're like this too. We've slipped into this is the downside of texting and immediate communication. We've slipped into this idea that dropping by people's homes is taboo, and we say it all the time too. Don't come over without texting me. Well, there's something to be said for living in a state of readiness for visitors. You may say, I'm so lazy. I don't clean my house, I don't do this, I don't do that, I don't decorate unless a week before Christmas, because you don't have that pressure of knowing that a visitor could stop buy at any moment. And I think there's some value to that. I think it does require us to keep a home that is hospitable because you don't know when you're going to be required to be hospitable. But now we've allowed ourselves to becolm this people where it's like, no, you're not welcome unless you give me a certain amount of notice. And I definitely believe that's been hugely damaging. And I'm just as guilty as anybody else, So I'm not making judgment. I'm just saying I can see that that's been damaging. But that's what gen Z has been raised in this mentality, then unless you're fully ready and fully presentable, the only thing for you to do is stay in your house. And the mentality also that experiencing something second or third hand is equal to experiencing it firsthand. Let's continue. We had a thing called dial up. If we were on the internet. If somebody use the phone, you got booted the fuck off. It's not that we're off the hook. We're just built different. Hello, fifty one year old gen X here, thank you for your questions and acknowledging the fact that we actually exist. To answer your initial question, if you saw a bear walking around the streets or in the woods mining its own business, would you keep on walking? Would you approach it to fuck around and find out my good sir? First, I'll get to this last guy in a moment. But yeah, don't bother us. That's what that guy said. Don't don't bother us. If you want to poke at it, Okay, you can holler at the boomers like that. And that's what they do on those college campuses, isn't it. They're hollering at those those boomers who are now the chancellors and the presidents, and the boomers are like, oh no, we don't want to seem like we're bad people. We're the progressives. We're the where the burn your braw people. Let's get the kids more of what they want. Because that's what we did, right. We marched and we whined, and we burned things down, we destroyed other people's property, and then we got what we wanted because the Greatest Generation was friggin tired from saving the world, didn't have any more energy to save the boomers from themselves, and they wanted the boomers to be comfortable. They never wanted to see another war again. They certainly didn't want to see it in their homes. And so that is something that the Greatest Generation has to deal with, or had to deal with their part in creating Boomers. Okay, gen X, we need to deal with our part in creating Gen zs because one thing we have to understand is they are not like us. For better or for worse. It may not be fair, it may may be lame, but that's just the way it is. And you all know I prefer to deal with the way the world is, not the way I wish it could be. Understanding that Gen Z is different from us, has had different input and different challenges than we have. We have to under we have to ask ourselves what do they need? Because how far does do we go with this leave me alone things? It's worked for some things, but for other things it has led to this absolute madhouse it is. We've said leave us alone, and then we watched everyone get in their sleds and barreled down the slippery slope to utter disaster. While we watched, Is said, well, I could have told you it was going to work out like that. Well why didn't you? You know, I think there's people out there saying why didn't you tell me? This is a pep peeve of mine. With my husband, he's gen X, so he's like, well, ef're out and find out do what you want to do, and then if it doesn't work out, I told you so. So sometimes I'll do something I don't know, make a decision or a conversation or get ornery with someone, and the consequences will be bad for me, which they often are, because I'm not always the most forward thinking person when it comes to my pet peeves. And then when it blows up in my face, he'll say, well, I knew that was gonna happen. Okay, Well why didn't you say something? Why didn't you tell me? Isn't this your job as my partner to cover me and sort of protect me from myself? At times? I could have at least used your input, maybe I would have told you to go f off. Maybe I would have told you I don't need your help, you know, probably, but at least say something, at least give me the option of hearing an alternative point of view of at least give me the option of hearing the truth, and then I can decide if I reject it. Don't tell me I told you so when you didn't even tell me in the first place, gen X. That's where we are. Yeah, there's good reason to stand back and say hang yourselves with that rope like I care. But sometimes, and I believe we are in this time, we have to marshal all of the power of no and stand up and say no, far enough. We have gone far enough. Gen Z has taken advantage of our silence. And I don't even think they they know that they've taken advantage of it. I think they think they're better than us. I think they think that we're just too we're just such idiots that we just don't have that much to say to them, or we can't compete with their amazing intellect because they're all hyper educated these days. And by hyper educated, I'm using that in quotes, but ye have we've never had access to more information and yet been dumber because we loosed the age of information on our children without teaching them discernment. So that just is a recipe for chaos. They do need us to stand up and say no, this whole gender ideology thing. You've listened to Gabrielle Clark, she's been on my show. You can go back and listen to her. But she's a mom that really got into it. She found out her school was transitioning her daughter secretly. And she's still got a lawsuit rolling through and this was Texas, folks, this was in Texas. She's still got a lawsuit rolling through Texas courts and now she's started a whole program to help other parents with their kids. But what she has found is that empathy actually is not the way to deal with the situation. And you can even read this in Abigail Schreyer's book Irreversible Damage. Of course, Abigail Shreier is an interesting topic because she was a liberal and was setting out to prove that all of this was on the up and up and legitimate, and then she found the opposite. She found that this actually wasn't and even she found a lot of evidence to say. What works best is the no is to simply say no, to not indulge it. And I think we're starting we're beginning to see more and more people do that. We're doing it at the ballot box. We're doing it in some ways. In some spaces, we're doing it by you know, closing inward, creating cloistered communities, homeschooling or private schooling, stuff like that. Not in a bad way, but in a good way. We're doing it in ways like this, getting out there more. When we get the platformed by gen Z, We're we're not taking it. We're saying no, We're going to go and do it our own way. I'm definitely starting to see but we let gen Z do that. We let gen Z get out of hand because we just really didn't care. That's somebody else's problem. I'm not raising my kids like that. Just leave me alone, which, of course another hallmark of the generation. But again, I think what that resulted in was not properly teaching. Gen Z had a problem solved. We grew up very independently and assumed that our children were going to do the same. But the world is so connected today that it's almost impossible to be completely independent. It's almost impossible. I hate the idea that there's nowhere where I can't be reached these days, I don't like that. Used to be, you'd have to wait if you called someone's house and they weren't home. If you hadn't if they had an answering machine, you could leave a message. Otherwise you had to wait, you had to be patient, you had to hold on to what you had to say and call back. There's no delayed gratification among gen Z because they don't need it. They're so connected. They're so they're connected with people across the world. And in many ways that's great because it exposes you to different cultures and points of view. But in many ways that's been terrible because there's been no need for independence to go find that stuff independently. Think about even how you got information, You had to go to the library, You had to leave your home, go into another building where there were other people. Typically you had to ask other people for help. Now we have quote help at our fingertips on the computer, but we have no one to help us be discerning. Because I could go to the library, look in the card catalog, gen Z just google it. Look in the card catalog for whatever book I was looking for. But sometimes the library and would be there to tell you, oh, you know what, this is a book actually that most people check out, or this is the book that seems to be more popular, or this is a book that was written by so and so and such and such, but you might want to check this out. Sometimes that libraryan was there to help you be discerning about your research. That's something that's missing too, and I do think that that's a failure of gen X. We have not taught gen Z. We have not insisted that gen Z be discerning hot topics, the news of the day, in depth interviews, and a whole lot more. This is the Outlaws Radio Show. Subscribe to the show on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts today. That's out Laws, the Outlaws Radio Show, n FCB podcasts. We've also told them deal with it, because that's what we did. You deal with it. But you know, you left the house. You left the house in the morning, especially in the summertime, whenever, whenever after breakfast, you left the house in the morning, messed around all day in your neighborhood or at your friend's house and came home. Your parents didn't know what was going on. If you fell, if you hurt yourself, if there was a fight, if someone hurt your feelings, you had to deal with it. You know. I wasn't running two miles home to tell my mommy that someone hurt my feelings. When I was playing tag, I was just like, Okay, well, I guess I gotta figure out. Either we dealt with it. Either we got into a fight. And I've had my fair shriff fights. I don't know if I could throw a punch anymore. Probably not. I'm almost fifty, but I've had my fair shriff fights. You dealt with it, and that's what we've been expecting gen Z to do. Deal with it. But they can't deal with it. They don't know how. I would definitely say, although I'm blame most of that on millennials and boomers, I would definitely say we've contributed to that. A lot of us, and I would include myself in this category, have left our children to quote just deal with it, imagining that they had the same coping skills that we had, but we had to develop those coping skills and they haven't had to. So we have to be mindful of that. We retreated from a lot of things, which I think is the natural gen X response. And also again is good because sometimes people just need to know it's okay to just not care it really is. It's really okay for you just to say I don't have the energy for this again like that one woman said I don't have the time. That's perfectly fine. But in our retreat, what gen Z did, which is the look at me generation, I would say what the Zoomers did is they feel that space we retreated, they filled it, and then they felt like they belonged there. We made the space right, we built it, and then they just and then we left it because we didn't like the company, and they moved in and we never asked them to clean up behind themselves. We just said, oh, well, you know, if they want to sit in their own filth, that's fine. Problem is the filth that's spilling out into other rooms and other spaces. So that's something we did that maybe we didn't need to do. We felt if we gave if we give people enough rope, they'll hang themselves. And to reiterate, I'm starting to think that's right where we are the trap doors are starting to open under some people tied to those ropes. Is that going to be a good thing? Is that going to be a bad thing? Not sure. I'm feeling more positive than the alternative. I see that. I don't know. Do you see that? Do you do you agree? I'm not saying that we're in for this huge societal shift and suddenly we're gonna move to the right and every everything's going to be I have no idea what it's going to look like, but I do think it's not for nothing that we got Trump at twenty sixteen, and it's not for nothing that twenty twenty happened, and it's not for nothing that we've got an election coming up at twenty four and it's probably going to be another very stressful situation. Gen X. Is that fair that that gentleman said, are you gonna walk by? Are you gonna poke them? I'm thinking gen X has been officially poked, So we'll see, But you let me know what you think. I would especially like to hear from any of you who are gen Z. Write to me j Lty at proton mail dot com. Jlt Y at ProtonMail dot com and let me know what you think of what I'm saying. What's unfair about what I'm saying? I might get my daughter. I'm gonna have an interview with my daughter because she's not an insane gen Z. She's she's pretty expressive, so maybe I'll ask her some hard questions. So don't be afraid to say the hard thing to me. I want to hear it. If you think that I'm being unfair, let me know and give me your case. Make your case, and gen xers, let me know. Am I crazy? And am I Am I on to something here? I want to close out with this one guy. He's a bearded white guy, kind of looks like a Viking. It's a little soft, so I'll try to turn it up, but he will end with him almost. Let me say thank you for acknowledging the existence of gen X. You see, we, of course are the forgotten generation, and for the most part, everyone ignores that we exist or they just want to leave us alone and not mess with us at all. Now, to answer your question, who lets jen X off the hook? Well, I don't exactly see it the same way as you. I don't think we're off the hook at all. I think that no one wants to mess with us, And there are two main reasons for that. Number one, as you're all dependent on us, and one way or the other, the boomers, as they get older, get ready to retire, probably transition to Valhalla soon. They become more and more dependent on us as the days go by. They also know in great detail what kind of a monster they created, and they are not ready to stick their hand in that bear trap. The younger ones, well, you never become independent from us, relying on us for everything from your cell phone bills to your insurance or even sometimes the roof over your head. And why would you bite the hand that feeds you? Now? The second part, and probably the scarier part, is what we gen X are. We are the most rabid and feral generation ever. You see the way that we were raised, forced into this place called the outside. We were left for our own vices to learn how to survive. And because of that we've become inventive and creative in all aspects of our lives, as far as our methodologies, some of them probably don't align with that at the Geneva convention, and yes, we did want to live our lives, just like William Wallace was to be a farmer, to be left alone in some far place. But of course, if you invite us into a battle, we will come. We will probably obliterate you in methods that you don't want to experience. So I think that answers most of your question, and I do appreciate you thinking about this, but I also appreciate you leaving us alone as well. Bravo, bravo. Absolutely, I think he encapsulates it all. We want to be left alone, but if you're going to force us into the battle, then watch out, because we were the last generation that got to live in the real world, that got to go into that place called outside. When sticks and stones may break my bones really meant something because we knew stick and stones can break your bones. But gen z don't know sticks and stones can break their bones because they don't go outside and they haven't experienced consequences. Again that whole like everybody needs to be punched into the face once they haven't experienced consequences. Have you ever wondered why the biggest guys are the last ones to the fight. My husband is a big guy in an imposing presence until he opens his mouth, and then you realize He's actually one of the nicest people you've ever met. But he's an imposing presence, and I don't think we're coming up on twenty six years of marriage. I don't think I have ever seen him get violent with anybody. I've seen him be challenged, but almost though, as he's diffused the situation with good humor or kindness or graciousness, or simply walking away as any good gen Xer would. And that's because he grew up in the ghetto where there were consequences for your words. You did you like that? One lady said you you did? Have to give it to somebody, right to their fates. And because of that, he's not eager to get into a physical battle. He knows that can have consequences for him too. So you weigh the pros and the cons. Okay, do I want do I feel like a trip to the hospital? Do I want blood on this shirt that I paid eighty dollars for? Do I want to hurt somebody else? You make those calculations. Big guys know that there are consequences, so they're usually the last people to be rush in to fight. So on with this, Yes, gen Z, absolutely, you be careful with us, because once we square up, we're not gonna be like the Boomers because we don't care about your feelings. The Boomers care about your feelings. You can't hurt my feelings because I don't know you, but I can hurt yours because you think that words are violence. So apparently my words can really wound you. So if you think my words can wound you, wait till you find out that I actually know how to fight physically. And I'm armed, not too worried about gen z is rebellion. But oh, this is the other thing I wanted to say. I'm sorry. I was just looking at my notes and I realized I didn't bring up this point. Gen Z cannot match our mental prowess. And I don't mean that we're smarter, but just everything that we've been saying over the last hour or so, they can't really match our experience maybe that's a better way to say it, and the tools that experience has given us. They can't match our work ethic. That's become upsettingly clear in recent years. And because we don't think like them and follow their script, and we're not like the whiny ass Boomers who are running their universities because they cannot confront us face to face. Their response to gen X has been to ban us from the conversation space, to ban free speech, to silence your accounts, to police our language. Their form of war is to make it so you can't be heard. We don't care about our feelings getting hurt or hurting your feelings, which is a very hard attitude to combat if you're a whiny baby, because nothing makes a whiny baby whinier or more babyish than ignoring them. So they can't beat us in that space. So the way that they beat us is to ban us. And that's why I'm saying, I think it's time for us to really get into aggressive mode, to get into no mode. We can go back to not caring once we take care of business. But I think we've been poked and and there. We haven't recognized it as a form of warfare because it's so frigging lame, but it's actually been quite effective. We've just left it alone. We've let them push us out of these spaces. And that you have to understand that is their sword is silencing. So if we let them do that, then yeah, we will have lost. And it won't matter if we don't care, and I don't think that that will be a quality we'll be able to be proud of as we age, and these people are gonna have to be the ones taking care of us. So it's time for us to put our foot down, I think everybody, and then we can go back to not caring all right again. You let me know jlty at ProtonMail dot com. Jlt Y at ProtonMail dot com. A Very Merry Podcast is back. We're in the heat of Christmas season, so come and enjoy everything that the Hallmark Christmas season has to offer us. We love watching movies from what we call the Christmas Universe now Christmas Land, so join Amelia Hamilton and I over at a Very Merry Podcast. Of course, please like and subscribe to this and don't forget to go buy my book Drawing Lines why conservatives need to begin to battle fiercely in the arena of ideas. I will talk to you later. Until then, don't forget. Every once in a while, just stop and listen to yourself. 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