Ep. 241 - JLTY Plus: What’s Missing In Modern Discourse (with influencer Alii Michelle)

No, this is the FCB Podcast Network. A brand soda day that we won't was said, and we won't say all we gotta Does no one get take thatt awade is gonna be okay? A day that we won't said, and we won't said all we gotta does no one get take that away? Don't said it is? Don't be okay? Well, hello, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Just Listen to Herself Plus. And I've got a very special guest today. I'm going in house. I've got a member of the FCB family with me. She's never been on the show before. This is our first time meeting. But Darbia has been talking about her all the time and she's so great, So I was like, I gotta have her on my show. I've got with me Ali Michelle. She's a mother, she's a social media content creator. She speaks out against the machine breaking for your censorship, and she calls out tyranny that's happening right here in our country. She does it all from mainly her TikTok account, a social media in general. Ali, welcome to the show. Hi, thank you for having me. Finally we get to meet. Yeah, so Darbiel raids about you, and I've kept up with you online and a lot of your work is just really sort of being a little funny and irreverent, but commenting on what's going on in society. So tell us a little bit about yourself. Where do you live, what's your life like, and how did you get started in political social media? Okay, So I'm from Ohio born and raised. I hate when people ask me to tell me about yourself because there's so many things you don't want to say you're saying. I was like, I'm talking about me. But I am a mother of one, but due to certain circumstances, I have now fostered in two. So I have a household of three kids now, which is so interesting. I'm learning so much about the state and everything I did not know and so many things I want to change so bad. But yeah, so we have that going on in my house and with the social media political end of it it started. I was never into politics. I was never into like anything like that. I was. I was actually a sheep and I just listened to what everybody said. And actually, when I worked in the hospital, I was a transporter and I would always see CNN blasting this man named Trump who happened to be our president, and I was like, oh yeah, oh no, he's terrible and just never really paid attention. But then the start of four years ago or so, um, he, I started to really just dive in. I was like, why why are we ridiculing a man who is taking care of our country? And I was like this, I have to just know more. Um. Thanks to my boyfriend, he actually educated me on a lot of um things that I just was totally oblivious to. And um, I just like I was. I was head first, and I was just in love with the whole world of politics and what it means, like what our country means, and um, what it means to be American and um and and throughout my political career, let's say I started to like flashback to like high school days and I grade who everything's now making sense, all the snaps are coming in and um. Yeah. So I just kind of um was messing around it during COVID and um because I was a blue collar girl and I would just be like I was a drywaller and yeah. So then when I got to stay home, I just started to dig into it and I just started like I started to. I started to recognize names like conservative Aunt, shout Out and all these other people that I was like, oh my gosh, I want to know this world. And I just started making videos and I made a joke and I went viral and here I am very good, very good. Well, you say in your bio that you fight censorship. When did you first notice that censorship was becoming a problem online? Like was there a light bulb moment? Because I know, for me, there's been a couple of issues. I think like they're with the trans issue. There was one moment where I was like, Okay, whoa, I've had absolutely enough. I'm done. It was there a moment where you were like, hang on, this is crazy. Yeah. So actually during election season I started to notice like I never got hit with community guidelines. I was just like, it was like I'm getting chills down my leg because they are trying to silence so many people. It was it was just about I can't remember the very first video that got taken down, but after that it was like video after video after video after video, and I was like, oh my gosh. Then so many creators were losing their account. I was actually knock on wood. I have not lost my original account, but I was close. It really just started. I started to really notice that during election season specifically, was when a lot of videos were baking like nope, can't say that, Nope, nope. And during the COVID shot era started to really they did not want you know, we started coding our words on our screens and started putting like little excess through little letters so like we could trick the algorithm. It was just that's when I started to notice we are fighting a different type of war. And I know social media is so new, it's a whole other let's just call it ecosystem that we're trying to like figure out and what's growing and what's not growing, and what's eating and what's not you know what I'm saying. So mainly COVID and the election season when I started to notice a huge change in social media. Yeah, and I think I think that probably goes for a lot of people. And now it's weird because it's all shifting with Elon and there's a lot of competing social media startups and Elon. I was just reading, you know the other day, Elan's like, this is going to be the one stop shop here on Twitter or x now kind of like push like vine status because I love making the videos, Like I think that's attracting more like the younger generation. I'm a millennial, and I just think the younger generations wants that video interaction, you know what I'm saying. Like, we can read words all day, but I think video and face you can you start to see who that person is, and you're in their home and you're in their life, and it just brings a better connection in my opinion. So I really hope TikTok gets the crap together and just puts it all on one because that would be awesome. Yeah, I think we're going that way. I mean, I can see Elon competing with substack, and substack is basically doing that right now. It's a one stop chop and they put up a Twitter even a Twitter like service within the substacks, so they have like a social media app inside the thing. And I can tell and obviously that's what Elon is doing. But I do find the whole social media phenomenon to be at once it's like it's amazing, it's it's a whole new world, and at the same time, it's like, oh, there's so much infectious about it. I think that's what I like about what you do is that we have kids, and I see my kids on tick talk and some of the stuff that they see and the opinions they digest. It really is like a virus. It really is like an infection. But a lot of people don't know that the reverse of that can be true. So a lot of people don't know. There's a lot of conservatives like you on TikTok that you know, and they're able to talk and get their point across. There is that content out there, and so in that respect, I don't think conservatives should be so down on social media. There are a lot of great content creators like you out there who are being seen. Yeah, And but also on the flip side, so many conservatives gave up on producing and promoting and creating because they were losing account And you have to, like some hope listeners understand that, like not necessarily me, but a lot of creators that's their job and they were starting to build a significant amount of income and for that to just be taken away, they were losing their jobs. And I think that's also what it was. How they were controlling people was Okay, Well, if you're not going to listen, we're gonna take away your income. And I think that's so like, that's where I started to start fighting against the machine is because you are now affecting people's livelihoods, and you are affecting single mothers, and you are like, that's the biggest thing for me is single moms were like being able to stay home but also having fun and paying their bills. But now it's now people are scared to say it even still. I mean, I have seen a few come out, come back out of their shout and start dabbling in the politics world again. But do lose a lot of content creators, but there are still some that are still speaking up and still fighting for the bigger picture. I am so sorry, but I did not mention the name of your podcast at the top of the episode, and it's here on FCB Radio. It's pillow Talk. What kind of things you talk about on pillow Talk, So it's it's a mix of everything. Um, I'm on a trend now where I want to I'm shout showing them what's the correct word the I don't know the dangers of child trafficking and that are being hidden and that's huge to me. That's something that I actually have a whole packet full of papers I want to read. And actually, there's so many weird things that are going on that I'm just gonna tip off a little bit. So the next about um, there's actually these called behavioral rooms in classrooms that are being now put into classrooms. Is actually illegal in Ohio, and but some cities are allowing these quote unquote padded behavioral rooms, and so many stories have been hidden of these children that were put in there almost the whole entire school day, days on end, coming out, going back, and coming outcome, and it's being I know, somebody who's actually building a room, and I'm so mad that they took that job. But yeah, so it's like things like that. So I'm a lot of my episodes are not focused on Ohio, but I do talk about fun things. I interview people and I just like to have fun, but I also like to bring in the seriousness of what needs to be talked about that I can't necessarily talk about on my platforms. Right now, well, let's talk for a second, and I'm going to put you in the hot seat with a couple of questions here in a minute. But let's talk for a second about the human trafficking issue, because a weird thing has happened with the discussion around human trafficking. Suddenly it has become a QAnon right wing thing. I'm not quite sure how that developed or why the left seems so angry about right wingers or anyone really talking about child trafficking, which is a real thing. It's not fake, like we have a whole we have multiple law enforcement departments that deal with child sex trafficking specifically their government agencies. So it's a real thing. What do you think is what's going on that it's right now? My stomach is all hot because it makes me so angry that you are a certain group. And I don't think it's necessarily everybody, because I do have liberals in my family who are you know, who are involved and want to stop child trafficking. I think everybody wants to. I think it's just really weird that there's these it stems from the top, and I'm totally convinced there's people who it's been proven that high end, Like in my state, there has been superintendence that have been caught, there has been law enforcement people who have been caught. It's so it's so deep, and like America is the number one consumer of child trafficking, they they are the number one buyer. And I think one set is exposed and the whole can of worms, you know, comes out, it's gonna be bad. And actually I interviewed this girl named Jesse, who actually is really in the root of all that, and she told me some crazy things that there will be busts in Ohio with huge names. I don't know the names. She couldn't tell me the names, but it's it's it's a real thing, and I don't know. I just think that because we've had people in office for decades and I think that they're the ones trying to cover it up and hide it. And I think it's absolutely appalling, and for people to just follow suit and say it's a conspiracy is a huge step in the face of these kids that are suffering every single day and all these undocumented children are being bought and sold. And I got goosebumps because I'm just it's it's very creepy. It's a real thing. And I think when you don't talk about it, you don't here. It doesn't exist. And Now that it's being talked about, it's coming to a head, and people who are way up there who are let's just um, the sellers are going to be exposed, and I think they're definitely afraid, and so they're gonna everything everything is just call it a conspiracy. So if people stopped talking about called because people are afraid of being quote unquote called crazy, right, and we did that during COVID, Right, it's a conspiracy that the COVID vaccine doesn't prevent COVID transmission. If you said that, you are conspiracy theorist, and I understand, I think you're right. I do think and I don't even think this is a crazy thing to say, because hello, Epstein didn't kill himself. Like this is a joke. We all a liberal conservative left right. We've been making that joke for years now. The point of the joke is that obviously he was part of a larger system and someone shut him up. So obviously there are people at the top who don't want to be exposed, of course, and then but then I think as we trickle down to the bottom, for the average human being, the thought of what happens to a child in child sex trafficking situations is almost too much to bear. So I think people convince themselves that it's not happening or it's not pervasive, because to think about the truly horrific things that some human beings are doing to children, it's way too much for some people to handle emotionally. I think, yeah, just I think that's why they're hiding or not hiding. But calling the Sound of Freedom a QAnon tin Hatter movie. It's it's disgusting, it's for that movie took it took five years for that movie to even be put out, and it's dominating the box office. But but that's that's scaring the people that have hit it for so long and who continue to endorse it, and who continue to just close a blind eye, because then questions are going to be answered, and we know this administration does not like answering questions. So there's a lot of people at the top that I think are just saying it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. Let's push out alien stories because you know, years ago we call people crazy. You know, it's you know what I'm saying, it's there's so many, so many different things, and it happens, and it happens in Ohio. It happens in Texas, it happens in Florida, happens in Michigan. It happens in every single state in Ohio in the United States. And I don't I think people think it does it can't happen here. It can't. It happened in my town, which is a more conservative town and a more close, family knit town. There was teachers and neighbors who are getting busted. It happens everywhere. And it's also another thing with the Internet, it's so easy to access. Hey, y'all, this is Ali Michelle. I'm a conservative social media influencer that has been censored by big tech. So I broke away from the restrictions and started a podcast called pillow Talk with Ali Michelle. My show is a space to have real conversations about the issues that I'm packed our everyday live without the fear of being canceled by the big tech tyrants. Subscribe to pillow Talk with Ali Michelle and FCB podcast on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you getch podcasts. That's Ali Ali. Come check on my show. I'll see you there. It is pervasive and as a mom, I'm uncomfortable talking about it. But as a citizen who lives in a border state, you know, I we see the results of it all the time. And a lot of these kids are you see them every day, you walk past them, They're in your classrooms. Like it's really it's almost too much. I don't want to get too deep into it because we don't have a lot of time today, but I I like that you are focused on it and concerned about it. I think more people need to be talking about it. And I just think it's so weird that somehow the progressive left has turned it into a right wing issue just because right wingers are talking about it right, and it's that's the most mind boggling thing to me. And I do want to just point out one thing. So I don't know if I've ever seen it in a public airport, but my boyfriend, his dad is a pilot, and we go to like small airports. In every single stall in a woman's bathroom, there's a hotline number to call if you are being trafficked, if you are being Yep, it's real. I just got chills again. It's real. Yeah, I was just yeah, I was. There's a lax recently, in every single bathroom stall there's a number you can call if you're being trafficked. And at the train station there's signs everywhere. There's billboards in the LA area for it. So it is a dangerous type of ignorance that literally costs lives. And so I think the only way to control this situation at all is to talk about it a lot of And that's what abusers do, right. They depend on you being isolated, even in a domestic violence situation. Right, It's like an abuser gaslights you. An abuser isolates you from other people. An abuser tells you that everyone's going to think your story is crazy. And that's what the progressive left is doing. Uncomfortable conversation. To push that talk, you have to have that one person who's talking about the uncomfortable topics. All right, let's get uncomfortable. I got to ask you about a couple of things. Give your honest answers. What do you think about Andrew take I love him? You do, tell me, why? Tell me why. I'm so glad that you asked it, because nobody's ever like brought that up. And I was just telling my boyfriend about him. I was like, I think what is happening to him is unfair. I haven't seen any correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't seen any legitimate evidence that he was exploiting women in the way that they're making it out. I know a lot of I know. I've read his stuff, I've read his charities. I've read a lot of stuff. And I think, I mean, these women were willing to do this webcam business. It was a business. They knew that from the beginning. I think that he has become so powerful to young men that they want to shut him up, just like they did Trump. Why do you think he's so powerful to young men? What do you think it? Because I'll be honest with you, I find him very abrasive and I find him almost like a caricature of masculinity. But you're right, young men are very attracted to it. And I mean he's obviously I've listened to Andrew Tay. He espouses talking points that I certainly agree with. So that's not the issue. I'm just talking more of like a personality issue. But why do you think young men are are flocking to him? I think, and I actually think it's a lot of um millennial men and younger. I think, um, because we are even in the schools, we see books just being read about young girls being able to do this, or young girls being able to do that, or being a masculine man is bad and it's toxic, but it's not. We need these men that he is talking about to have a thriving quote unquote ecosystem. We need these men that are willing to get down into the sewers and where. We need these men who who who want that traditional life because a lot of we have a broken system with a lot of women and a lot of women are And I know it's I know it's weird because he had this webcam business, but at the same time, these women were eighteen, they knew what they were doing, they wanted the business, they were seeing dollar signs. But I also think that promoting masculinity is so frowned upon, and he is having those uncomfortable conversations going against the machine. You don't think he's a little arrogant though, You don't think or is that just the stick, that's just the act. Oh yeah, he has the biggest ego. But I think that's why men like him, because they want to be like that. But they are so afraid that people are going to judge them and be like, oh, you're disgusting, or but women flock to men like that. This is really interesting. Ali, Okay, so I think you have hit you have hit the nail on the head. This is in a different type of way. This is the attraction to men like Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro. And in this modern feminist neo feminist effort to feminize all the things and make men and get rid of toxic masculinity, we're upsetting a careful balance, and I believe we're creating more toxic masculinity because what happens is boys are so shut up, shut down, and they're not even allowed to be their natural selves, Like we're medicating them out of their natural selves in the classroom that when they that, they don't have an outlet, and so they do flock to men who offer a certain machismo. And some men go overboard right, some it's like, um, it's like an example I'll give is like when when I was a kid, if two guys were like hanging out and somebody be like, you guys are gay, it would drive them to be even more hostile and masculine right, like to say that didn't make them more sensitive, it drove them over the edge. And I feel like that's what we're doing. And I feel like Andrew is sort of a symptom of that. Again, I'm not sure if his whole thing is an act. I don't. I know, I don't like it, but I think you're dead on about why men do, particularly millennial and Gen's ears, are attracted to that. And I, frankly, I think it's our fault. I think it's lady's fault. A lot of women, and you know, um, I don't want to sound insensitive to women, but you know, we have become so I like independence, so I don't want to say independent, but we have become so naive to the fact that we don't need a man, or we don't, but we do. We actually do need men in our country and in our family base or wherever. Man in the home creates less crime. A man in the home, you know, um, provides stability in finance. You know. It's just so many things that we are now stripping away, and I see a lot of people waking up to it. Though I do see a lot of girls that I didn't think would be like more wanting to be traditional or having that traditional life. But I do see a lot of women. The funniest meme going around is like, whoever, what did I say? Was like whatever feminists fought for women's rights to work? Your mom's ah, you know hoe. I was like, like that is like people are waking up to it, you know. And and I just think men are are flocking to him because he does he is extreme, but he's making a point. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you, and I think you make you make a very good point as well. I will I'll say this that I think I always say this on my show. I know that I was raised by a boomer, and so I was raised by that ultimate feminists, and I get the whole like I don't need a man. I can do it on my own. And my response to ladies, and typically those are the ladies who are like, there's no good men out there. But my response is like what man wants to what person wants to be told they're not needed at the beginning of a relationship. No one wants to hear I don't need you. It's not the way to start out. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, one of them just because I was picking the wrong men. I was. I was. I grew up without my biological dad, and then I met somebody and I was like just absorbed in their life and I was abused. I was all that, you know, and twice my son's my son's father and my next boyfriend who was like seven years of just constant abuse. And we've you know, one if one man or two men do something, it's because you're picking the wrong men. You're picking these weak minded men my opinion from my experience, and it's something. Yeah, it has to do a lot. I mean, obviously there are predators out there and you can't be blamed for their behavior. But there's patterns, right, we have patterns, and if you keep ending up in the wrong kind of relationship or with the wrong person, that you have to look at the common denominator at some point. And but the good news is that you when you do that, then you can heal yourself. You can fix that, you can do something different, which you obviously did. Women don't want to go towards that. You know. It's funny because you know a lot of women are attracted to the bad boy type. But the bad boy type doesn't have a job, doesn't have a career, doesn't have a card, doesn't have you know, And because I think women are naturally quote fixers, and we, whether we want to admit it or not, like we think we can fix somebody or make somebody into something that they're not. And I think that's also what the feminists are trying to do. Is it's okay that you that's okay, you know, No, they need to be strong. And again that goes back to ander Tate's showing that masculinity is important. I love that. I'm going to use that that even feminism is trying to turn men into something they're not, and when you do that, you'll warp a person. All right, we've got it. Move along here. Have you seen the Barbie movie? I have not. Oh okay, do you have plans? What do your plans to see it? See? I'm like up in the air. I just I talked to somebody to day. She's like, it's not kid appropriate and I was going to take the girls, so that's not it. But I don't know if I want to see it now. I went to see it with my daughter last night. And in fact, this week's podcast is me and her talking about the movie. She's sixteen, and she was like, you gotta go see this movie, mom, You're gonna like it. And I'm like, oh, I don't think so. This is not at my alley. Plus has just been incessant advertising, and I don't want to like fall prey to that. I feel like I'm manipulated into one unching it. But we went last night, and I'll tell you what. It was really good. It was really good. It was dare I say, empowering in all the right ways. It was not a feminist diatribe, and it had a nice message. I thought about masculinity and about the value of it, and about how we can sort of be so caught up in like how our point of view of how the world should be, that we ignore the value of the people standing next to us. Now, I will reiterate, I will say what your friends said, which is this isn't actually a movie for children. It's not dirty or filthy or anything like that, but it has like mature themes that I don't think a kid would get. This is a gen X movie. This was aimed at people like me, So it's actually a movie for adults. But it's a spectacle. I mean, kids would have lots to look at, and there's nothing in there that you would be like, oh, I'm so uncomfortable for my kid to see this. There's like sort of undercover Joe, you know, like double entendre jokes here and there. But yeah, it's not for kids, no Ah. This creator called his name's Harry. Um, he's a liberal, but he was talking about the Barbie movie and um, I did you know grab that? And because he was like, oh, you know, conservatives are saying this was going to bomb the cho box offices and it's actually three million, and okay, but I but what I've pulled from like the commercials and the clips of what I've heard is I'm if there. I said, you know a lot of people are expecting that this. What did I say? It was something along line. It's like, oh, well, I'm glad that we are we are accepting that a woman can be beautiful in the way that she was meant to be beautiful. And because Barbie to me represents girly feminism, the beauty of a woman. And but I am glad that they did bring them bringing the masculinity part so I might go see the whole movie is about the beauty of a woman and why Barbie was created, and how even they address how the concept was one thing, but the world made in another and it created insecurities. And I cried twice during the movie. It's actually good. I love a movie. Yeah, I recommend it. I don't think conservatives have any reason to be concerned about this movie. I mean, obviously it's not a conservative movie. I mean, don't get me wrong. Obviously the directors and creators personal views bleed into it a little bit, but it's not there's nothing you're gonna be going I'm so offended by that, not at all. In fact, I think it's safe to say that the reason it is at three hundred million at the box office, it's probably because of its conservative themes, whether or not those were deliberate. It's definitely a more universal movie. It's it's built to appeal to a wide audience, and it does. And I think you will find some commentary value and it. I encourage you to go see. It'll be good content for you. That's my same for my birthdays Barbie theme. So I have to see it. Now, you have to see it, and then when you see it, come back on the show and let's talk about it. Definitely. Yeah, okay, one last one, last question. Elections are coming up, We're moving into the heat of election season, and the women's vote is always a big one. It's it's one that particularly Democrats go after. And I find that a lot of women vote with their hearts and don't really think about what they're voting for. So what's the word of advice. You might have two particularly younger women out there who may be voting for the first time or roommate, actually be voting with consideration for the first time instead of just pulling the lever automatically. Yeah. So I actually voted for the first time for Trump. That was my first vote ever in my life. So I was what twenty five, maybe five, twenty six, um, twenty six, and UM, I just I think but it you know, I did do my research. So I recommend women, um researching your um whether it be your state, whether it be presidential election. I think you should really research and that just go to one source. UM. I really stress that one source. Don't listen to others, like you know what I'm say. You can listen to all this around you, but don't make that your your your vote. You know, um, because a lot of things that I agree with the liberal side. I do agree with some liberal stuff. Um, but I would never, I could never. There's a bigger level, like there's um a heavier scale of the conservative that I that I value more than the liberal. But um, yeah, definitely do your research. Don't feel ashamed for your vote. Don't. You don't even have to talk about your vote. I know a lot of like a lot of my friends aren't political and they don't like talking politics. You don't have to talk politics. You you're a liberal. When you want to sneaky sneak that Trump, well do it. You don't have to tell anybody your vote unless you want to. Yeah, we have private voting for a reason. Yeah, so I think, Um, do your research, you don't have to talk about it, don't feel ashamed, and just do it with confidence. You know, this is our home. Our America is our home, and we have to protect it in which way you think is is fit. We can't let you know, in my opinion, our economy to keep falling. But consider your money, your your grandmothers and the young mothers that are doing it alone. H I know that goes with your heart. But you know, sometimes we have to dabble. I hear you, and I think sometimes I think that's half the problem, because there's a lot of women out there who are voting for a husband in government instead of doing it the normal way. All right, Well, Ali, help people where they can find you online. Don't forget she's a part of the FCP radio family, so you can listen to her podcast, pillow Talk, right here on the FCB network. Tell everybody where else they can find you. Allie, I am on TikTok Allie Underscore Michelle. That's with two Eyes. My Instagram is Alie Underscore twelve again two Eyes. Twitter is Alie Underscore Michelle twelve two Eyes and pillow Talk with Alie Michelle on FCB Radio. And we'll have all the links to her social media in the show notes, so just check below if you're interested, go check out her TikTok. Though it's really cute she does, and it's and she's got a lot of followers, and she's got a lot I mean, I laughed, I laugh all the time her stuff. So I think you're great, Alie. Thank you so much for coming on the show today. Thank you for having me my pleasure. All right, everybody, don't forget get that subscribe button, share this podcast, go subscribe to all of Ali's stuff, leave a view in rating if you would for both of us, for pillow Talk and for j L. T. Y Um. Follow me on Twitter at real Kia Davis. Just listen to yourself on Instagram, UM and Facebook, and don't forget to subscribe to my substack Jess Kara Davis dot substack dot com. And I've got a review of the Barbie movie on there, and also uh my podcast with my daughter which will be released today as I'm recording with Ali, So by the time you hear this, UM, you can go and listen to my sixteen year old daughter tell you what she thought from her point of view of the movie Barbie. And I think you'll be surprised at what an intelligent review it was. I know I was, Alie, bless you catch on the flip side, thank you that we won't say and we won't say all we got it? Does no one get tatto? Okay, brad lore my sort of day that we won't say and we won't say all we got it? Does no want to take that away? Don't say it's gonna be okay. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network, where real talk lifts. Visit us online at FCB podcasts dot com.