This is the FCB Podcast Network. This is Pillow Talk with Allie michellec podcast Network. Welcome back to another episode of pillow Talk with Allie Michelle. I am your host, Alie Michelle. That's with two Eyes. Today we have a very special guest too eye absolutely adore UM. Also, don't forget to follow me at TikTok Allie with two Eyes, Underscow Michelle Instagram Alie with two Eyes Undersco Michelle twelve And don't forget to subscribe to the podcast. Today we have a very special guest. I'm absolutely in love with her UM. She is a social media influencer slash military wife UM. But most importantly, she is a standing up for the rights of her children, Anne who teaches her children moral standard, traditional American values, and what it means to be the American woman. Here's Gina aka Deep Dive Life. How are you hi. I'm doing so good. How are you good? Thank you again for being on here, Thank you for asking me. I'm excited to talk with you. I'm excited. Okay, okay, So let's just let everybody know who you are. So I want to tell everybody a little bit about yourself. Well, I'm Gina I'm a navy wife. I have three children that I homeschool. I've been homeschooling the last three years, and I decided about two years into it that I couldn't just be a silent mom anymore. So I have an Instagram where I speak my mind so that if my children ever ask me one day, I can tell them I was not silent and they will know that I set up for them from the get go. I love that. Um And that's that's happening a lot lately. I think I just interviewed um Keisha King. She's also a huge advocate for homeschooling and moms for Freedom and all that kind of stuff. Um So we were just talking about your position or you allowed to stay that here or is that that you just accepted? Yes? Um So, just for op Seck, I probably won't tell you the command that I am that I have recently been asked to be the umbudsman for my husband's command, and that's a liaison between the families and the command. So I will be taking a knee issues that the family's need that you know, they want to be able to speak to the captain and kind of delivering those messages for him, or if anything happens, you know, they have a family emergency, I take it to the captain to let him know, like if they're gone or something, and then the captain gives me information that we can pass on to the family. Is so when they have movements and whatnot, they will know like when they're going to be gone, when they're coming home. And yeah, that's a that's such like a huge job, you know, um and so important because you know, all these women are waiting to hear from our house. It's more their husband's hearing from their wife and stuff. It's like, I mean, I think that's like a huge job. So congratulations for that. It's a little daunting, but I'm actually very excited for it. I love to be a helper and so that's just one of the things that just speaks to me is just to be a helper for others. So yeah, so let's get into like the homeschooling. I know you and I have had conversations and conversations about it, and you've been like the main I'm gonna like the main person to get me, so like I'm ready, I'm ready. Good news is his dad did say yes? So yeah, So we're gonna work on that, but I want you to explain, if you want to. How did you get so what was your final straw? Have they always been? Ah? No, you said three years? So yeah, how did you what was that final point? So COVID actually when my children were pushed to the distance learning so just kind of rewinded a little bit. I had always wanted to homeschool, but there was just so many naysayers who would just be like, oh, you know, all the things that you hear, just you couldn't handle it. You couldn't do that, You shouldn't do that, all of the you know, things that other people are projecting onto you because those are actually their fears. But when COVID shut everything down, we were in southern California at the time, and I just was sitting there with my daughter, who was in first grade at the time, and she and I would literally be driven to tears just all day every day from the moment we had to be on a zoom and I had an infant at the time, and you know, trying to keep an infant quiet so that a first grader could sit on a zoom all day was really hard. And just trying to figure out how to stay on their schedule at home with two kids, you know, balancing that in school and then having the baby. It just became miserable and I just felt like it really shouldn't be that way. There was no reason that school should be bringing her an eye to tears every single day, and it just wasn't doing anything for our relationship. You know, we didn't really we didn't want to spend actual time together because we were just like, oh, when we saw each other, we knew we had to go get out that you know, laptop and sit down and beyond a zoom. And it was just miserable. And I hated seeing her miserable because she used to really be excited to tell me about things that she learned, and then she was in tears and didn't like it, and I didn't want her to hate learning. So we finished up that year with disincarting and decided that it was not for us and we were not to ever go through that again. So I just started researching over the summer and decided to tack with it, like, let's just dive in, and we did, and honestly it was the best thing ever. Yeah, she was she hated math, and she comes by it. Honestly, I try not to say certain things because I am not the greatest step math, but I am learning with her, and I've learned that when you find the right program for them, they seen them light up when they get it is so amazing. And I think that's why most teachers probably went into teaching, because when you just see their little minds just click and it makes sense and they love it. It's just it's amazing to see that. But she is like, comes to me every day, Now show me my man, I got one hundred percent of my math. I got one hundred percent of my math. And that a thing when we first like started either, I mean even with her coming home from school, she'd be like, yeah, I didn't do good at math, and I was just like, oh, I'm sorry. But finding the program that worked for her, because I think that's another thing that drove me nuts with um public schools was they're all learning the exact same thing, but that doesn't mean they all learned the exact same way, right, yes, And being what worked best for her was so helpful because my son is so studious and so smart, and he like, is so good at math and my husband and him are kind of nerdying that together and they can just do math like off the top of their head. Just you tell them something and they're like boom, boom, boom, they got the answers. And when my daughter and are sit they're going, how did you get that? Yeah, the baby able to Taylor, homeschooling to each of them and just I mean we do some classes together, but then I also have like what they're interested in, or I have them choose their sciences that we go through, and it's just it's I mean, it's definitely not perfection. Don't think that ever, or it's not hard because we have days or I'm just going, oh my goodness, but they they love it. And the couple of times that my husband was like, well we moved, do you want to put him in school? Both of them no, no, no, we don't want to. So they like it. So it's like such it's such a comfortable, um successful environment for them, and they recognize that, Yeah, let's get into like this, Oh go ahead, No, no, I was just agreeing with you. Oh, so like let's like get like stereotypical. So most like some people are like, oh, you're kid, you know, like for me, there's been people saying like, oh, you know, he needs to be socialized, So how do you tackled with them being like, you know, in society. Um So, I think that's actually funny that people say that, because forced association is not socialization. And how many times have you heard your kid get told stop talking in class? We're not here socialized, done done, like I tell you. Yeah. Yeah. But so my kids have been involved in sports, very involved in church. And another thing is they go everywhere with me a lot of the time. I mean, I do get my time in, but they go to the grocery store and they know how to pick items out, they know how to pay, they know how to talk to everyone at the grocery store. And the other thing is we hang out with a lot of homeschool families as well. And the nice part about that is they're hanging out with kids of all ages, so they know how to interact with little ones very well, and not just their siblings, but they can also hang out with older kids. And also they have my grandpa that they hang out with, and it's really nice to see them able to walk up to people at church who are the older generations and they can hold a perfectly wonderful conversation with them, and they love to talk to them because they know that they have good stories because their papa has good stories, so that they've learned that just being able to chat with anybody is, you know, possible, and I know that. You know, sometimes people think, oh, homeschool kids are weird. Well, I guess it's weird when your kid can talk to anyone. They're not afraid to order their food. I was so afraid to order food when I was a kid too. You could not order food. I would be like whispering to my grandpa and have him order for me. And they're just like looking over their menu. They know exactly what you know they want and they tell them. And it's nice too when I can just send my son and be like, can you run into the grocery store. You know, he's thirteen, so I'm not too worried about but like he knows exactly what to do, and he can talk to the people in mine and I can you know the little ones asleep, I just sit in the car with her and wait for him. But they are so active and involved in social and they have so much fun, so I think it's just so funny when people say that, because it's not like just because we're home schooled. We're in our four walls all the time. We have we've had memberships to places everywhere that we've lived too. And I'm gonna tell you what, the zoo or the park during the middle of the day is so much nicer when you don't have fifty six thousand other people in there that you're dealing with. Yes, oh yes, I love that. I think that like uses a lot of people minds just gonna go that's like, oh okay, well maybe people you know like and like you said, it stems a lot from the classroom where it's like, can't talk, it's not social hours. We were here to learn. But then that like made me think when you were saying that in public, okay, so now they're they're proned or they're taught to not speak in public settings with a lot of people around you. So that could be where we you and I struggled with ordering in public or talking to somebody in public because we were so taught. We were taught in class like quiet but let's listen, you know, and we get we got nervous around our peers. Yeah, but with them, I think you're teaching them confidence and that is so amazing, Like, yeah, everybody want to Oh they find a buddy too, Like they can find someone that they'll end up hanging out with or playing and they're never just like sitting over because oh I don't know them, I don't know how to talk to them. No, they they talk to people, They interact. I have a great time. You know. We recently got plugged in our new church and I was a little bit nervous for my son because he's quieter like I am. And every time he just comes out with a big smile and as he say, yeah, I had so much fun. I had so much fun. If that was me at his age, I would literally not speak to us until I know who you are and I'm comfortable, Like no way. But like I just I do love that they do have a lot of confidence. But I definitely didn't have that when I was a kid. Yeah, and I think I think that what you're doing is teaching them what we lacked, which is good. You know. Um They sometimes they say you would grow up around you either become or you become opposite. So, um, I think that's great. But we are going to go to break and we will be right back. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me Kia Davis on Jeff Listen to yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas, and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kia Davis an FCB Radio podcasts on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back with Pillow Talk with Alia Michelle. We have Gina here aka Deep Guy Life. She is a mom who encourages fellow moms and families to make a change and find their voice. So welcome back. So we were talking about homeschooling and your relationship with kids. So let's kind of I want to kind of have I want to kind of know a little bit more about you. So how did you so you have a good following? What is your number of following on Instagram? I think I just hit over ninety five. Oh gosh, like yes, So how did you become who you are? Like what kind of like let's do this? Um. I think it was just really deciding that I didn't want to feel so alone in my stance. Living in southern California. A lot of my friends were a little bit more um just I guess just liberal and or liberal leaning. And I mean I still love them and we're all still good friends because I don't, you know, I don't ditch anyone for them having something different than they believe in. But I also found myself not really speaking up about where I stood on a situation, and I would just end up like listening. Um. And I've actually been pretty quiet my whole life. Passionate, but quiet until you know, I was either comfortable or knew what I wanted to say in the moment. So I decided when I made my Instagram that I didn't want to be quiet. I wanted to talk about the things that did matter to me and that I felt strongly about. That way, I had other people that I could talk to as well. I know that a lot of people that even I've talked to just meeting them through Instagram, they just felt really alone when the things started happening, and so like covid again, it's what kind of pushed me to making a social media presence and looking for other people to plug into and learn from and be friends with. So there was just so many things that weren't adding up, and then you know, some people just didn't want to acknowledge it, and I was just like, well, no one like immediately around to me wants to talk about this. Let let me find other people who do. And it just took off from there and I've made so many like good connections. I mean just I mean I found you. You cracked me up, and I love watching your reels, and then I was so excited when we started talking. I know, it's funny because I mean I kind of have a big following, but like, I still feel so honored and excited when like accounts that I like that, I'm like, oh my gosh, they're talking to me the same way. Yeah. It's like it's so crazy, just some of the connections that have come out of there, and it's so nice to know that, like there are so many people who do share the same beliefs for a lot of the core values that I have, I don't, like I said I don't. I don't need everybody to think and feel and speak the same way that I do. But like knowing that there's people out there who just aren't falling in line and lying with everything, because Okay, we all know, I don't like the government. You don't like That's true, that's true. It's and it's hard because especially being like a military family, you know, everyone's like, I mean, they have their opinions on that, but a lot of us are still very patriotic, whether they can speak out against, you know, certain things or not. We all have conservative values and don't agree with what's happening, and it kind of just stinks that they're stuck in contracts that they have to fill. But a lot of people also went into this, you know, I want I guess I'm going to speak just for my husband, partially because I can't speak for him fully, but you know, he grew up loving America and having like the desire to protect it, and that's I think what we all have. You know, we all want to instill these like values of being proud of where we came from. But these people are coming in and they're like screwing it up. So that's why yeah, and thank your husband for me for his service. We so totally appreciate it. I've had a couple of military members in my family, but thank you. So. I don't know his name, mister Gina so, but yes, thank you, m So. How did you feel about that balloon? You know? Honestly? So? I mean I put obviously put out like a little real on it. But for all of it, the thing that bothered me is the narrative. Obviously, you know it's a distraction. Everything's always distraction, But the fact that those are the words that you're putting out that's so insightful, Like how can you just put out, oh, it's okay, what's happening. We're just it like okay, I know that they're probably not telling us the full truth. But the fact that you're being like, number one, China's doing this and it's okay, that part is where I'm just sitting there going so you're saying that you're okay, if China actually was spying on us in that way, you're not gonna do anything about it. And whether you know it's the full truth or not what they're giving because we all know that they don't. There it's always smoking mirrors. But that's the narrative they put out. And when there's so many people hearing that, they're hearing China's spying and it's okay, that to me is super telling in and of itself, because why why would you even want that as an official narrative, right and you and you didn't even like the fact that he did not even condemn anything. So I'm kind of I'm kind of anxious for the state of the union and this one I might watch just to see what he has to say. I don't know, because I cringe every time he just opens out like I can't out yeah. Um, But I'm just kind of I'm curious to see what or will he talk about it? Will he talk about the real issues that is going on? You know, Oh, well, gash business are up, you know, no, whatever that happens he he wants to say. I he just drives me bandanas. I think I cannot. I so agree. I can't. And it's interesting because you know a lot of people think, oh, military families knows what's going on, but you don't necessarily know. You're not allowed to know. So I think that's another thing that people need to understand. These moms don't know what's going on, all right, you don't. We definitely do not. And what we do know is usually just like, oh, my husband has duty today or he doesn't and that's yeah. So um, we're gonna get in one more conspiracy if you don't mind. What about that laptop? You think it's gonna ever be true at this point? You know, it's kind of just sitting there with that little black book list in my Yeah, and I just I hope I will hold my breath, but I have hope because you know, the truth does. The truth comes out one way or another. It's point the truth comes out, and I just hope it sooner than later. Yeah. Do you think do you think Biden's gonna announce his like presidential campaign like tonight? I I'm born on it because half the time I'm just like, I'm just waiting for him to like resign so that yes, the other one can be woman president. I hope Harry Lake friends, I love her, I love her. I hope she wents um good. Oh um. Yeah, I don't know. I just I feel like some of the time they are pushing for him to be bousted for incompetence, but then just like you're just going to continue the shrade like oh gosh, I just like I have a I have a thing for this is my this is my new signature for him. Yeah, I don't. I just think it's honestly, like coming back, like let's like step away from him being president, like as a wife or as a daughter like anything. If I've seen my dad or my husband or my grandpa even on like declining like that publicly, like that's cruel to you. That is like elderly abuse. I am no, I really is. I don't think that man's innocence of anything. But at the same time, like yeah, you like you see someone's brain declining and you're just using them at that point. It's just like making appearances at the Grammy Like what is that? Like why I can't stand her me either? And I just oh my gosh, I literally connect. So um, talk a little bit about your super pro life. So it's all so serious. So um, what's what state is it? I think, well, California for one. You so you don't live in California anymore? Right, No, we got stationed elsewhere. Okay. Yeah, they what they are doing and what they're pushing is scary and as a mom, as as a mom of free for you and a military mom, Like, do you have any advice for like young women who are struggling with that? Um? Ill, But yeah, babies are a blessing and maybe it's not your blessing, but there's so many options. Um, I'm actually, uh, my mom was a teen mom, very young. She was fifteen when she got pregnant with me. I think about that. There there's a really big probability that like she not that we have a British relationship, but if there's one thing that she gave me was life. Yeah, and um, if she hadn't, it wouldn't have the beautiful children that I have today. And I just I think that people don't realize how much blessing that children can be to you, because there's a narrative of children being um a burden or a leech or a parasite of some kind, and they just magnify your life. And I think that that's that's not celebrated enough. Just how wonderful it is to have a child and just the love that children gave you, that is pure love, pure absolute love, and you just you've never experienced pure love until your little one looks at you and just tells you're the most beautiful person that that you know, I love you know. I was laying with my son asked me to come downstairs last night because he had affiliate but um, he's had he's had a g issues at school. Another reason where he asked me. He actually asked about homeschooling last night. I was like, I'm working on it, um, but you know, you're laying there and my sons eleven and he, you know, just laying there and I literally had this thought last night, like I will never like this may be the very last moment. He's like, Mom, can you lay with me? So to like, you know, kids are exhausting, of course, but like little moments like that when they're just like, Mom, can you come, like lay with me for a minute. That eleven, he's becoming a teenager, he's becoming a young man. So to have that moment and to just I know, as a teen mom, like I didn't appreciate it enough as I think I should have. And it's hard to say that but because I was still growing. I was seventeen, but I just wish I could go back in time and just hug everything, just every moment. I wish I could just have with him more. But like you have to under like people need to realize like this could be your last moment, as like mother and son to just lay with them until they're like too cool for you. You know. Yeah, my son is thirteen and he gives me dry by hugs and I take time because I meant he's you know, he doesn't want me to snuggle him the way that the girls do because they're really younger. But like I still I love. He's taller than me now and he's still want to sticking me a hug and I just love. I love that. So. Um, we're about out of time, but I want everybody to know where to find you. Um, So if you want to drop your name, where they find jack Um, it's Underscore Deep Dive Life Underscore on Instagram. All right, Well you got it here. You heard it from her. Um. I thank you so much for coming on here and taking the time to talk with me and chatting it up. Well, thank you for in finding me. I had a great time. Thank you. Thank you for listening to another episode of pillow Talk with Alie Michelle that is Alie with two Eyes. And don't forget to follow me at TikTok Alie, Michelle A l I I Underscore Michelle Instagram, m A l I Underscore Michelle twelve and don't forget to subscribe to the podcast. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network, where real talk lifts. Visit us online at FCB podcasts dot com.
