Ep. 15 - Chelsea Ravae talks about leaving the adult film industry, fighting for children's health and more

Listener discretion is advised. This is the FCB Podcast Network. This is pillow Talk with Ali Michelle podcast Network. Welcome back to another episode of pillow Talk with Ali Michelle. I am your host, Ali Michelle. I have a very special guest with me today, certified breastfeeding specialist, ex adult film star, conservative mom of three, Chelsea Ravey. How are you hi, I'm doing well. How are you good? Thank you? So, before we got started, we talked about your past. We talked about what you do now. I kind of want everybody to know who you are, why you're so cool and awesome, and what made you become a conservative from being a lifelong liberal. Yes, absolutely so. Yeah, so my past, well, currently, I am a mom of three. I'm a homeschooling, stay at home mom of three, and I am certified in lactation like you mentioned, So I helped moms normally on a volunteer basis because I am such a firm and strong believer in all of the amazing benefits of breastfeeding. And then, yeah, I used to be an adult film star almost a decade ago, and it was it was an interesting time. I smile and I laugh about it now because I feel like that's really the only way to get passed it is that you know, I am who I am because of it. And I'm actually really happy for that experience because it brought me closer towards God. It brought me closer towards conservatism, of course after I got out of it, So it's just a part of my story that that isn't going to go away no matter what, so I might as well embrace it. And I think that something that is really important to me is also helping to teach other women or encourage other women to get out of it as well. Yeah. Yeah, that's heavy, and I commend you for breaking free, finding your finding God, finding who you are, becoming an amazing mother. So you said you are a lactating specialist and you volunteer. So let's get a little controversial. How to feel towards the push slash movement of the transgenders taking all these hormones and what is it doing to our children? In your expertise? Like, can you break that down for everybody? Absolutely? So the first part of the question was how I feel about it, and so unprofessionally speaking, I think it's a horrific idea and professionally speaking, we do not have enough information I think, I mean, just speaking from a conservative perspective, I think we have already taken so many things from women, like us, let us be pregnant women, not pregnant people. Let us have our breastfeeding, not chest feeding like at some point, let us have our sports, our locker rooms or what you know. So how I feel about it is I get very very heated from a professional perspective when taking hormones to transition and then to induce lactation. I mean, we're looking at hormones that have their own side effects for the transgender individual. But then we also have dumb paradone, which it induces lactation. It is something that we give to moms, sometimes biological female moms who are struggling with lactation. But that's when we're looking at the really the risk versus benefit and when it comes to bonding with your baby and things of that nature. If breastfeeding is extremely important to the mother, the benefit might be worth it. What can happen is it can cause heart issues, it can cause loss of stability, several different things. And then we look at again the side effects of hormone therapy as well the combination. There are so many side effects, and so where I come from when I'm thinking about it is more so if we're looking at a risk versus benefit. When one of the studies that I read, the conclusion that it came to is that it is a great way to firm someone's gender identity as a mother. And no, I'm sorry, we're supposed to be focusing on the infant. We're supposed to be focusing on the breastfeeding experience experience. And so when the conclusion is it'll help affirm you, I'm sorry, get affirmation through other adults, not children. And the reality is that we do not have enough information. There are a total of four case studies as of April of this year, four only. And so while through those four studies they found things like, oh, well there were some macro nutrients and there might there might be some nutritional benefit, there's no long term study and so then we could get into the whole COVID talk. Then I mean, look at just in the last couple of years, how much has changed from the name narrative of oh this is going to be wonderful. You won't get it if you have it oh wait, now, you won't spread it if you have it all of these different things. And that's kind of how I look at this is we don't have the long term data, and infants should not be the ones that we tested on, right, I totally I said the same thing about, you know when when we're pushing adolescence to transition, and I swear up and down this is an experiment on our kids, and you said it perfectly like our infants aren't to be tested on. And that's what that's what essentially is happening, and we're and we are, we are affirming an adult. You can go to therapy for that, right, you can do, be who you are, be what you want, believe our kids the frick alone. Really so. But first, because I did not yet mention it on the podcast, but I told you the reason I'm sitting funny and I'm not up propped and professional is because this is called pillow talk. And so here we are on a giant pillow. Yes, thank you for pulminating that. I love love love. I think that's thet thing ever. I feel like I have to do it, and I'm sorry, I'm sy to see you know, we're both in Ohio and so with the weather, it's just up and down and here we go. So so back to the lactatian thing. I really what I think bothers me so much about it is that I have sat on the phone in person over message for hours and hours and hours with moms that are struggling and to see that and to help them overcome that, and then to hear like, oh, but a man can do it, justice like yeah, no, it's really bothersome because I also have sat with moms who like it took them so long to be able to figure it out and to get it. And what's really unfortunate is that there's so many options right now that you know, I think we've kind of lost where mothers and grandmothers passed down that information and it was just like a known skill and this is normal, and so we're not normalizing it for women, and where chastuising moms for breastfeeding in public, we're not normalizing breastfeeding where it should be normalized. But then we're expected to normalize it for a biological mail. That is what I cannot get past, right. I have a personal story, So I too, am a mom of one who's struggling with infertility and all that. But when my son, when I had him, I to my left side stopped producing milk period. So then you know, I was depending on my right side this my left side just would not work anymore. And it broke my heart. I was like shattered it. Like I was devastated because I did not want to do the whole I didn't want to do the formula. I wasn't as like I want to call it crunchy as I am now, but like I still had my like, oh you know, that's weird, you know. And then I was upset when like the nurses were pushing the formula as soon as he came out. Like there was a lot of things that happened during my labor that I just did not agree with or like, you know, as well as like the imanizations. I know, you speak up and speak out against that. And the more and more I dig into it, the more I've listened to podcasts and like other specialist doctors who are speaking up against specific you know, shots and vaccines, I'm like, oh my gosh, like I really just pumped that into my child, and the like the same thing with goes with like guard to sell for women. I've like researched maybe that's the reason I'm having all these issues as well. So I want to kind of get your your your opinion and advice on the vaccines for when moment of birth. Yes, oh absolutely so for vaccines. It's something that I am extremely passionate about. That I was passionate about before. It was something that I was, you know, I was a like pro pro vaccinate mom, like very liberal pro vaccine, pro like all these things that I am complete and total opposite of. Now, it wasn't until and I should have known when. So my first child is eleven, and when he got his one year vaccines, he broke out into an full like a full body rash, a bunch of it's had a one oh five fever. It was absolutely terrifying. And I was pretty much told like, you know, this is a reaction. It'll go away, but don't worry, it won't happen again. And back then I'm like, oh, well, we believe doctors, so that's right. So it was until my second child, eight years later, when he got his six month round of shots, he completely changed. He stopped babbling, he stopped making eye contact, he stopped doing all of the things that your baby does, you know, And so that is when I started to do a little bit of a deeper dive. And I will say that from the moment of birth, we're expected to give children a heppatitis fed vaccine within the first twenty four hours. That's based on very old information. So I think it's absolutely atrocious to put something into a brand new infant. Okay, and we'll be back after our break. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me Kira Davis on Just Listen to Yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas, and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kia Davis and FCB Radio podcast on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to pillow Talk with Ali Michelle. We have Chelsea Revey here you can continue perfect So I shared a little bit about my story and I'll go back to that, but just to answer your first question about it, as we give children this happetitis feed vaccine within the first twenty four hours of birth. It's based on very very old information. Unless the mother is actually infected with hepatitis B, it's atrocious to give an infant a vaccine. In my opinion. We give a vitamin K shot as well, which I don't see why there is not a liquid or oral or you know, if vitamin K is necessary, and it's not always necessary. It really just it depends on so many different factors. And so it's one of the biggest problems with childhood vaccines is that they're not They're not individualized, right, so they are looked at as like this blanket thing that every child needs, and every child needs the same ones, and they give so many at once. They give up to eight doses at one time, and I know before COVID was introduced, so we're sixty nine doses on the childhood schedule, which is just insane to me. But I also want to say, when you were saying, oh my gosh, what did I do? Did I do this to myself? We only know what we know when we know it. I mean, I would hate for you to think that you caused anything. It's something that I've been struggling with is that with my now three year old, so my second child, he has autism. And so that's another thing is that there are so many people who the moment you say vaccine and autism in the same sentence, a scream or like it's been disproven, it actually hasn't been. And so that's I think one of the biggest takeaways that I could give anybody when researching at all is to look from a perspective, am I reading a biased piece of information or am I reading something factual? And a really good way to figure that out is to look at who funded be study, because a lot of times it goes back to the manufact sures also hidden very very well from the manufacturers himself all of the information. So read the vaccine inserts, read the studies of injuries that have happened, and so there are, like I said, sixty nine, probably way more now doses that are recommended. And my first child got pretty much all of his up until this point. My second son, who is three, got his up until six months or he got his six month shots, and then I noticed a change and he wasn't due to get anymore until a year. That's when. At that point, I was not associating his change in behavior with the shots at all. And fortunately, my mom, like the wonderful human she is, always like second guessing everything, asked me to please wait and to please just do some research. And it was in that moment that I had to transfer schools because I actually would not get the second COVID vaccine because I had I have a blood clotting disorder. There were so many different things, and I was in nursing school at the time, and my very first class that I had to take was an ethics class, and we watched documentary about vaccines and it was about the one year vaccines. So like all of these little sprinkles of like what I like to call god moments, happened where it brought me to disrealization, I cannot let him get another round. And so after that, I dove so much deeper and I started listening to the vaccine conversation. Candie Owens put out her her series A Shot in the Dark, and those are just amazing because both of them never tell you what to do. They simply give you information and let you decide for yourself. And so when I had my third child, he didn't get any and that was a really big thing for me. And it's also really hard to find a pediatrician that will take your child when they're not vaccinated. And let me just say, my one year old, he's one now, he has over thirty words, and he is one year and two months old. He's well or three months, he's fifteen months old. He is like astoundingly advanced. And of course it's going to look different for every kid. And I think that's that's where there are certain factors to look at. And I just, I really I implore all moms, dads, anyone who is caring for a child to actually research and not just take what the doctor says at face value. And now I'm going to tie it back to lactation, because two things that pediatricians are not educated on lactation and vaccines. And you would think that because a portion, probably a very large portion of their patients are infants, that they would be educated on those. Med school does not educate on either. Besides maybe like a little blip of like, oh, here's some stuff about lactation, here's some stuff about vaccines. And why you need to push them. Also, at the end of the year, most pediatricians get a bonus for having all of their kids on schedule, and so you will get kicked out of the office. So I found a lot of it's been very helpful for me to go and see integrated specialists or more homeopathic doctors. And I've also noticed the difference in just the way that they care for my children. It's a very not like, oh, we have to push you out in fifteen minutes, but hey, let's talk about everything. Let's talk about your other kids. And I might go there with one thing and the NOWS pops up and they're not charging me four times for four different conversations, and so it's just it's something to think about for sure. But something that I've really struggled with when it comes to breastfeeding and helping moms is that doctors do not get lactation education at all like they And that's one of the reasons why hospitals push formula. Doctors push formula. They're like, oh, well, your baby needs this. They don't actually know what the infant needs when it comes to lactation and just how much the milk changes depending on the baby and the circumstance. So right, I could I could go on probably we probably have a whole series on it. We can always have another episode. I love hearing this. So when so two things, is there a vaccine that you are like totally four? Because I know there's been ones that have been around for a hundred, like one hundred years, and during COVID the why I really started to like essentially panic. I didn't have a newborn, but I am totally like pro mom, a pro single mom, you know all that I'm very in tune with that. This formula shortage was insane. My cousin has a baby. She couldn't find formula anywhere and she wasn't breastfeeding, and it's like, at that moment, what do you do? You know? And then so yeah, my two questions are is there anything that you like? Are you for a specific vaccine, are you against all vaccines? Or yeah? So for my first question, I would say, at this moment, there is not one that I am a hard yes for at all, And I'm still doing my research. As far as the infant and child like early childhood schedule goes, I personally would not give any until at least three years old, and that was if I found that, I was like, yes, this definitely definitely should happen. And a big reason why is because they say, well, this has been eradicated or this has been eradicated, and that's actually not always the case. Sometimes it's just rebranded as another illness. And so one of the things I look at is the side effects of the illness versus the side effects of the vaccine, and so which one am I more likely to survive with, like going through this with my baby, and a lot of the illnesses that we vaccinate for were routine childhood illnesses before. So I am not a hard yess on any at the current moment, and that might change, you know. I'm still, like I said, of conducting my research, I because so much of the brain develops between birth and three years old. I think that I wouldn't even consider for my youngest. If there's one that I'm like, yeah, this actually is better, I wouldn't even do it until three Interesting. That's first of all, that's like brave because we've been so fear mongered into everything, So that's very interesting. I'm more and more women are having on the same train that you are on and I know with me considering, you know, when I have a baby, it's kind of hard to decide, you know, like what do I or do I not? That's why I that's why I definitely recommend looking to some of those resources that I mentioned, and just even those two alone, the Vaccine Conversation and a Shot in the Dark. Between the two of them, they go through pretty much every illness, every shot. They give you the risks and benefits of both, and it really allows you to make your own decision. So yeah, I would say I'm a hard no for right now, but I used to be a hard yes on everything. So you know, we grow, we learn more, and well, definitely, if you get pregnant again anytime soon, we'll go through them all together. Perfect. Yeah, and anybody who's listening to this, don't be afraid to reach out to Chelsea Revey on her social media accounts. We will plug those at the end. But you said you were a diehard liberal, so let's get into that topic. I know there's a lot of talk about like OnlyFans it's huge, you know, but on the conservative side they're fighting it. So you were a diehard liberal ex adult film star, So what made you do it? What made you leave everything in between? And yeah, yeah, so I I don't. So I never really followed politics for a long time. I was liberal, not because I voted that way, but because that's how I lived my life. And so oh I was very pro like pro transgender everything, pro drag shows, pro do whatever you want. And not that I'm anti be yourself as an adult now, but I mean that was just one very very small piece of the pie. And as you mentioned with my past, so what happened was I was in a not very good relationship when I got pregnant with my first son, and we were living about two hours away from my home or my family. And so I got pregnant and I was nineteen, and I was terrified and we moved that closer to my parents, and there was a lot of emotional, physical, verbal abuse in the relationship, and when he was born that was kind of and there was also, I mean, drug use, there were very there were things that definitely influenced that. And so when I got pregnant, I was like, Okay, I'm cleaning up my life, I'm going home, I'm going to have this baby. I'm going to make this work. And he ended up coming with me back home and we got our own apartment and it was I think within the first three months of my son being born that there was one fight, one time that he raised his hand to me one more time and he didn't get the chance, and it was in that moment we never got back together. And I will say we do have a great co parenting relationship now, So I'm not trying to drag or anything like that. He's grown a lot over the years. I've grown a lot over the years. Being young and on abstince ads and just not being good human definitely affecting. But so I was a single mom, and I was a single mom of a three month old, and at the time, I was working a full time sales job. I was sales later of the month, I was killing it. I went back to work after six weeks of having him, and so I was like, go, go, go. And it's something that hurt my soul because I would wake up and take him to daycare and go to work all day, sometimes have meetings after work, come home and we had enough time for a bedtime story and a bath and then it was bedtime again. So I can't relate to everything you're saying. Yeah, and so I didn't get to raise my baby, and it was something that was definitely a sore part of me, a sore point of me. So what happened was I was also at the time doing modeling and different things like that, which I had been doing for years. I started dance classes before I was two. I was the youngest at the studio. So I've always been a performer. I took acting classes, I'd written songs, I've done you know, the whole spectrum of performing arts. And so I was modeling at the time, and then I was dancing at night when I could over the weekend to make extra cash because I had literally just I was like maybe five hundred dollars over the poverty line. So I didn't qualify for food stamps. I didn't qualify I know that feeling, Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah, So I didn't qualify for anything at all, and so I was doing it all on my own at the time. Wasn't getting Giles sport. I still don't, but I'm literally living my story. I'm literally yeah, except I wasn't a dancer or anything, but keep going. Yeah, yeah, So it was really anything that I could do to ensure that we had our bills fade, and that is you know, that was working. And then that was sometimes picking up the night shift and saying good night, I love you, going to bed, and then ansider taking over or taking them somewhere, and that was rough. And if I wasn't twenty or twenty one at the time, like I don't think my body like today, my body could never ever, So what was that moment of like I gotta stop, like I gotta stop, you know, selling my body. I have to stop, like I have to just stop. Well, first I'll explain really quick, and I saw and going fine, Well, what happened and how I got into it is that I was doing that. I was modeling, and then I was at a ring girl competition for I don't know if you remember what was the name of the show it was, I don't even remember now, but there was a show and it was about the ring girls for like the Mayweather flight fights and stuff like that, like the MMA. Yeah. Yeah, So I was at an audition for it and I ended up finding out later that I actually made it and I would have been one of them, but that wasn't until after I a producer approached and was like, hey, have you ever thought about this? And at the time, I'm like, well, I'm, you know, super open about you know who I am. I love who I am. I was so confident, and he pretty much sold me. I'm like, you'll fly out to LA for one week and then the last the other three weeks of the month. You never have to leave, you never have to leave your baby, you never have to go to work. You will make all the money you need to in one week and come home and that can be your life. And at the time, I'm like, okay, sign me up. Like, of course, leaving him was horrible. This at this point, he was a year and a half old. I was twenty one, and it was hard to leave. But it was I think the really big point for me at the time, or the reason that it was so easy to get stucked into it, was because I was missing what I felt I needed as a mom, which was time with him, and this was my way to do that. And so that's what I did. Within a few weeks, I hopped on the flight and I was out in LA and I went in very very, very blind. And that is something that I think is a lot different now with like of and things like that, is that girls have a little bit more control. I know some are still under agents and managers, and of course they would take any chance to get girls on for that. But I so I have I think, across all platforms. And this isn't even considering DVDs or my appearances or my magazine sales or anything like that. But I have like thirty million views, and that like was a decade ago, you know. Yeah, and then I also did appearance that like the Avan Awards, and had my own booth at the Exotic Expo, and so it was, you know, it was a big deal at the time. And what made me get out of it because I was in it for a couple of years, Well, I would say several depends on what you include in that were a couple of things. And the first thing I'll mention is kind of what I was just saying is that I went in very, very blind, and so I didn't know that I would never see a royalty. I didn't know that I would never ever ever get paid long term for the stuff that I was doing. And so the pay in comparison to the loss right the loss of the world seeing my body, the laws of knowing that this is out there forever and that my children will inevitably find it, and my oldest did at one point completely not even looking at that, but looking up one of my songs, which we can even get into that story. But fortunately I've read some pretty incredible kids. So and it was also so long ago. But the main thing was, it wasn't at the end of the day looking at those two factors. One, it's not like I'm making a million dollar empire, which a lot of women are now on, not a lot the top one percent are on of and nothing like that was around back then when I was doing it. Yeah, the cost was not worth the loss at all. And I knew that if I didn't get out as soon as possible, that it was eventually going to come back up. And so I see this little amazing boy growing and I'm like, okay, I've done my time and it at that point I'm like, okay, I'm going to stop right now, and then he'll never find it and all will be well. And that was really it. It was just looking at him and realizing who I wanted him to be and who I wanted him to know. His mom as Yeah, and I didn't realize that it would blow up as quickly as it did. Like by the time I landed in Cleveland from LA, the first like mini clip was on one of the free sights and within one minute had one hundred thousand views. Within one day it had millions. And I was getting messages from people that I went to high school with and and it was just wild. But anyway, you weren't getting you weren't getting anything. We were getting paid any of that money. Oh my, that's no, that's wild to me. Yeah. It was these like producing disgusting men were like making money off of you. Oh they still are? That is discuss still are yep? I am so sorry, Like that is I can't even fathom it, you know, I cannot even fathom it because, like you said, like I mean, girls have more control, which actually I want to ask this question. You don't have to answer if you don't want to. But were you ever like harmed physically, like were you five men on in the industry or were they respectful? Like how so? I will say the one thing about the industry, at least when I was in it, it was very very professional. I think that we probably spent more time doing paperwork than we did filming. Oh, very very professional. Everybody gets tested. You have to see the other person's test, their idea, find it. You have to get tested every two weeks on the two week mark, and you can't even be an hour over or like a day over. It so physically harmed. No, however, like I said, as far as going and blind, they are very very good at manipulating. And I didn't realize that I had any room, you know, to wiggle to me at a nineteen year old or I was team when I got pregnant, twenty when I had him, twenty one when I started, and so to a single mom who's literally freshly twenty like in her twenties, hearing that I can make ten grand in a week was like, yes, I'll do it, you know, And so I didn't think long term about it. And I also, like I said, when I first went out, did not realize that it would get as big as it did. And I wasn't even in it for that long, so I was not physically armed. Not to say that that does not happen to people. I was afterwards by someone who had completely nothing to do with it, but that was used against me. It was like, well, I know that this is what you want because I saw it. Oh my gosh. And so there's obviously been tons of trauma to work through, which is why I'm able to talk about it today. And I think it's really important to shine a light on it because women need to know, like, if you're going into this, don't just don't don't go in. That's what I was going to say. Next, do you have any advice for women that are considering it, especially it's so easy for young single moms to fall into that quick money, but you're paying for your entire life. Yeah, go ahead, No, go ahead? What reason? No? Go ahead? Yeah? Literally forever. And I was very, very fortunate to find a man who I had my other two children with, who gives me a phenomenal life. Like I said, I'm a stay at home, home schooling mom. He always considers my first his first because he taught him how to be a dad before he had children of his own. So we have an amazing family, and we have a beautiful home, and we have a beautiful life. And so I recognize that my sitchuation is not the norm when people get out, So yeah, I would say, my biggest advice would be to look long term and what are you willing to give up in the future for the benefit right now, Because the benefit right now might beem like everything, and it's not. It's always going to be there. And I was thoroughly convinced that it would never ever ever come up years later, like, oh, I'll be so long gone by then there will be so many new people out no one's going to find it, no one's going to care. It has not stopped haunting me since, and so that's when I really started to take like my own power over it, like, Okay, if people are going to always bring this up, well I'm going to share my story and I'm going to help people love it so so that I would say that's really the biggest thing. Is the decision that you're making right now going to benefit you in the short term the long term neither or both. And I can say the most likely thing is that you will not be beneficial in the long term, and that go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say. That fits both in with the lactation experiments, you know, young women and adults, and so I can like we're totally strangers. We've never met each other, but we've followed each other I think since I was like sixteen. I think I remember seeing yeah Facebook and I was like, she's so beautiful, But I know I'm probably just you and I love that, like we've always been there but not there. Yeah, So I really like appreciate you coming on with an open mind and having so much insight on both subjects that our is really relevant in today with both subject so I think you have a lot to share and I hope I get to help with your journey in anything you need. But let people know where they can follow you, how they can contact you, and thank you so much for coming on. I definitely want to plan another show because I have so much stuff to talk about with like motherhood and stuff, and I love to have a conversation and going back and forth with like traumatic stories and ex boyfriends and you know all that stuff. So if that, if that's something you're interested, I will definitely email you. Yeah, I would love to. I think we should definitely do a part two because I like this whole time we were just kind of talking about so much and I didn't even get to share like how I became conservative. Yeah, yeah, got out that we're going to have to do a part two, and I mean this might be a five part series by so on Facebook, which is my largest following right now, it's Chelsea Ravey Manion and the spelling. I'm sure you're going to post it and link and then TikTok. I'm just getting warmed up. I'm just getting started, but definitely follow me because I will be posting more. Yeah, all lowercase chelthy X mom, and the X stands for multiplied like time's fine. Need I need to change it is what I need, oh dear. And then Instagram is just Chelse revet I need to have like a I should probably just kind of combine all of them. And then on YouTube it's chealthy underscore mom. So those are the ways you can find me, and they're all different. So hopefully you caught all of every single name. I'll plug your name everywhere and I'll make it more universal in the future. You got it, But thank you so much for coming on. I really really really appreciate it. Thank you for It's been wonderful and I've been looking forward to more conversation. Yes me too. Thank you for joining this episode of pillow Talk with Ali Michelle again. I am your host, Ali Michelle. Please follow me at at Ali Underscore, Michelle on TikTok at Ali Underscore Michelle twelve on Instagram, and don't forget to subscribe to the show. Send it to your friends, send it to your haters, send it to everybody that you know. 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