FCB Faith is your rhythm and prey station. I listen, my mom listens, pretty much the whole family. I cannot, I cannot. I canna said, don't, don't and no, don't. Listen to FCB Faith on iHeartRadio, Odyssey at faith dot com, or tell your smart speaker to play FCB Faith on iHeartRadio. The following is a presentation of FCB Faith. This is the Jeff Glory in Nickshow. Welcome to the Jeff Laurie and Nick Show. And we are in the midst of an election here in the state of Ohio, and there is an issue on the November ballot. It is Issue one, and today we have a great guest here to talk about Issue one and the reasons why we should vote no on this Issue one this November. Our guest this morning is Taiji Turner, and he is the founder of Collegiate Conservative Coalition and he's gonna tell us about what he's doing and why we should vote know and just moving forward, how detrimental this is to the state of Ohio and the electorate. Good morning, Taiji, How are you? Good morning? How you doing doing Just great? Taji, give us a little bit of your background. Tell us how you know. You're a young man and you've been involved out here, heard about you so much, and it's just a wonderful to have you as a guest hearer this morning. I know that you've done so much. Give us a little bit of your background. So I am a young man from East Cleveland, Ohio. I'm a Beechwood resident, and yeah, I'm a conservative. I'm here to stand on first principles and take this country back. That's awesome being a young man growing up in East Cleveland, Ohio. Just a great city, a lot of history there. Can you tell us about this vote? How did you get involved with this? And you might want to tell us a little bit about the collegiate Conservative coalition as well. Yeah, So to keep things short because it's a lot to unpact there Issue one voting. Know, for me, it's just it's just staying true to history, all right. So when we talk about Issue one to people as conservatives, we have to understand exactly what it is. It's a Redistrict and Commission. It's it's a well, it's an it's a policy that wants an amendment for a Redistrict and Commission of unelected bureaucrats that are not going to be accountable to us because we didn't elect them. They're appointed. And as far as what we do as Collegiate Conservative Coalition to CCC, we we always advocate for policy reform and policy literacy, so you have to be literate about this stuff. And we set up. Tables that say, ask you why I'm a concern, We talk about Issue one. We try to get people to understand the brevity of the situation, and yeah, we try to make stuff shape. We try to make it shape. I don't know if that answers your question, but I did the best I could there. No, it does. And you know, Issue one is on the ballot in Ohio. And the interesting thing is the reason we're voting no is because the current plan that is in place right now passed with more than seventy four percent approval by the voters of Ohio. So why are we going back to this issue? Why are we trying to re undo what the people voted for? Because people in power are very selfish, and this is a clear example of that, where our democratic process is being undermined and check on power is being lost. We we we we have a strict process. It's a fragile process, and we can see historically that whenever we have allowed people in power to dictate things behind closed doors, minorities are the ones that end up with the short end of the stick. That's a good point. I hadn't really thought about that, But yes, this is this does affect minority representation and could you speak to that. I'm aware of this, but can you speak to us, tell us, tell our audience, how does this affect uh black districts? District? So first of all, you have to understand we have three black congressmen, all right, and the Ohio in the state of Ohio. Yes, in the state of Ohio. And what we have to understand is whenever you read draw lines, when you read district things, the constituency changes, okay, And when that constituency changes, there's a chance that that black representation can be lost. So this is a tactic that was used in the Gimcro era of America, where black people were intentionally disenfranchised through the exact same means. So it's a pattern here and. I'm not gonna tell us to look at the color the people that have done this, and by color, I don't mean race, I mean party, you know. But but but there is a pattern here and there's something to be unpacked there as far as black people in our relationship to that color. Yeah, that's what very well said, and that I like the way you hammered that home. We have three black congressional disc well, three congressional districts that are represented by African Americans or blacks, and I think that with any changes, those fragile districts could easily be not represented by the current congressional representatives that they have, So any changes to that would kind of again, you know, prevent minority representation in the three districts we get end up. You know, African Americans could definitely end up losing a district or two or three. So voting no would prevent any changes. And again I think that's really that's another reason to definitely vote no. And you know, the current plan again was passed with almost seventy five percent approval. It was exactly seventy four and some change percent. You know, the funny thing is about this whole thing we talk about black representation being stripped away through bureaucratic process, I mean that is by definition systemic racism. And so we cry about the system, we cry about racism. We and we're right to do so because we do experiences experience a lot of tragedy and hardship. But then in the same token, we're not being educated and not being careful with how we're voting and what we're actually voting for. So this is sort of a call to any black listener to understand that a vote yes on Issue one is a vote for systemic racism. Absolutely. Issue one eliminates the anti jerrymandering restrictions that were mandated by voters back in twenty fifteen and twenty eighteen. So you know, voters again have voted on this. You know they don't want jerry mandering districts. So if this were to pass, if people were to vote yes on Issue one, we are basically voting for jerry mander districts that can look like snakes and include all kinds of areas that have districts that just don't make sense when you look at it geographically. So we're encouraging our listeners and our audience to vote no. It's a it's again we've already voted to stop jerry manderin so what we have in place now has again been approved by voters. It needs to stay, so vote no. And Taji, you might want to address some other issues. Of this, yeah, I mean so with the CCC, we're trying to really push it big on the college campuses here in northeast Ohio, specifically at Cleveland State University. Whenever we do voter registration again, we're going to be attacking ballot issues as well. This is one of those things that hit hard for me because when you look at what the Jimcrow era of America did, they did it through these sort of redistrict and commissions. It's the exact same thing. And so as long as that pattern exists for me and I can spot it out, I'm understanding that they want to use us like chess pieces on the chessboard. They want to use us like pawns on the chess board. And doctor Thomas Soul actually calls that the chess piece of fallacy. He explains it way better than I'm doing right now. But we just have to be careful with this stuff and educate our friends, educate our neighbors, love our neighbors so that we can make sure that we're not institute reinstituting is something that was already already you know, detrimental to black people. Tazi, there's another issue aside to this, what about accountability. You know, that's very important. We keep talking about accountability transparency, but issue one would remove accountability from Ohio's redistricting process. Can you talk about that a little bit. Well, I think that's part of the problem in American government as a whole, accountability. And when you look at the poor, poor, ast black cities, the ones with the most crime, a lot of the leaders have been in leadership for a very long time. And so I think to willingly. Vote for somebody to be able to sit in power and get rich and have success and scam the people, I think that that is just a weird thing to do. I like to be able to hold my politicians accountable. I like to be able to tell them when they're wrong. I like to be able to vote them out. My ancestors fought hard for our right to vote. So the fact that I'm not going to be able to vote these members of this redistricting commission out, that is a problem for me. Is undemocratic and quite frankly, and may even be unconstitutional. Absolutely right now, we elect members to represent us by voting yes. If people voted yes, they're basically given away their right for fair representation. So it's imperative that you vote no so that you can hold your elected officials who you vote for, accountable to drawing district lines. Again, accountability is incredibly important in all of this, and the decision makers would all be unelected officials. So this is not what we need in government and doesn't serve our best interests. I mean, and I just would like to oppose a question, what reason do we have to trust the government to do the right thing behind closed doors? Even if you want to go far back to the Civil Rights Act in nineteen sixty four and Lenda B. Johnson's rationale for signing it. What he said was he said that he would have those in words voting one way for the foreseeable future as a phrase. But I just want to be very clear on that. The reason why I'm bringing that up is because we don't really have a and to trust these politicians and what they do behind closed doors. So we need to be able to scrutinize them and push them out. And so when we talk about accountability, that's a hard it's a hard pill to swallow that people may be voting for a group of unelected bureaucrats with no accountability. A commission, yeah, commission, And we don't need another commission set up. We need our elected officials to do their job like we voted back in twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen, and the plate, the current system that passed with seventy four again, seventy four percent approval of the voters in Ohio needs to stay in place. Just get them to do their job. We don't need a commission set up with no accountability. And that commission would actually force the map makers to jerrymander because they would have to include people with different interests across the state into one group, and it would make them remove compact dis districts like we have now with voters with all similar interests. So we've got to vote no, and it's in the best interest. There's no accountable accountability. It's a not elected, it's a non elected, non elected commission, and it's not fair. So we need to vote no in November on Issue one. Closing words, Taji Turner, We're glad to have you here, and I think you've unpacked quite a bit. What are some other thoughts final thoughts on why we should vote no on Issue one. Hey man, big government is big racism. That's just how it is. We don't need no redistrict and commission. We need the government to get out of the way the stability. Stability does not come from people being mandated to j mander, which is always hurt black people since the beginning of time. If you don't believe me, just go read, just go do the history. Just type in gim pro laws and really and really do a comparative analysis on what's what. Thank you so much, ty as you turned. This was very important, very it's a critical issue for Ohioan's that it's imperative that we vote no this November on Issue one. Vote no on Issue one prevent theft the minority representation in our elections and drawing maps. So this is so important, redistricting, drawing the maps, our representation is all at stake right now. So we've got we cannot remove accountability to the voters of Ohio. We've the voters in Ohio spoke overwhelmingly in twenty fifteen and twenty eighteen with the current plan for the current plan of redistricting. So again to our voters, to our audience, I want to ask you to just do the right thing. Vote, know what issue won. So glad to have you this morning, Tizi Turner, keep fighting the good fight for our audience. Remember, let's all do better and thank you God bless you all. Remember vote, take someone else out to vote, know what issue want. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network, where Real Talk lives. Visitors online at fcbpodcasts dot com.
