Ep. 207 - Guest: Tressa Smallwood (Film Director and TV Producer)
The Jeff Brown Show with Cocoa BrownSeptember 06, 202300:43:2639.67 MB

Ep. 207 - Guest: Tressa Smallwood (Film Director and TV Producer)

Guest: Tressa Smallwood (Film Director and TV Producer)
This is the FCB Podcast Network. Oh, welcome to John Frown. What's going on, everybody? What's up? What's up? And we are back from an extended holiday vacation Labor Day weekend that honors all the hustlers, all those that grind and put in the time. We're back, and you know, I'm the host with the most Jeff Brown, and you know I got the introduced show, I got the lovely side of the show always with me. I call her the Smile none other than girl Coco Brown, Coca Brown. I can't call it. I gotta call it Coca because because we know, we know Coco is a stripper. Coco Brown is a stripper. Not Coco Coco Brown is a porn star, honey. Okay, but oh oh well, oh she's elevated, right, she's a porn star. Right, Yeah, I haven't seen none of her work. I probably need to go download some of her work and see if she's so funny Coca. How was your your vacation you extended Labor Day weekend? You know it started off Greade, I was in Tampa at the improv you know, incredible sold our shows, so much fun. And then on the station. Yeah, and then I have to come home. And we were doing in a state sale, telling our parents and our childhood home, which sucks, but what my mother wanted it was in the wheel. So yeah, we're getting So we had to do it a state sale this weekend. And I'm gonna tell you, honey, I love my people, but we some cheap mofos. Okay, Like the white folk came in and saw what the price was and was like cool, paid for it. Here come to black folk. Well, I'm saying, I ain't come with that much money. And then you're going there insult me something For five hundred dollars, you're gonna say when I got fifty, are you footless? Are you hot? They wanted to put it on a Leilway. I there's a three thousand dollars bedroom suit and I'm trying to get rid of for five hundred dollars. You're gonna offer me thirty dollars if you don't get your crack head tail out my face. Hey, they wanted to put it. They wanted to put it on on Coco's Leilway. Obviously brother, obviously putting that temp of sity. I'm trying to give me fifty dollars for a three thousand dollars you don't get out my face? Oh my god. You know that is a good question, you know, and I think we you the top of that question because you know, I got I got another question I gotta tackle, and I got two beautiful ladies on with me today, So I'm gonna start up some controversy today. I'm on some trash a little bit today as well. But before yeah, I'm also trash today. But fix you out out to our partner and crime of the hat, uh Deacon do Dirty Reverend Rong, but were calling uh the CEO, the king pinning himself Derby who he's out in about today, And so I'm doing his job engineering, stopping running the show, time clock, timekeeper and all that good stuff. So yeah, I'm on double duty. But I wanted to get into Agettable have footage every vible right right right, that's funny to be vible, yeah right, right right. I want to get into our guests. I want to introduce our lovely guest today, none other than truss Us Smallwood, film director and TV product a TV producer. I'm sorry about to take TV production, but she does do TV production, but she's a TV producer. Beautiful smile as well, just came on with all his lovely energy. First out, how were you doing? How was y'all holiday? And what did you get into? What's up? Yes, listen, holiday was good for me because I've been in Miami celebrating my twenty seventh wedding anniversary. Seven. Now, are you are you married to a black man? I'm married to a black man. Black love matters. You know, you have to ask that question now, Black love matters. Wow, So that's dope. So did any so? So, so, who did anybody barbecue for your anniversary? Did y'all have like a did y'all have an extravagant wedding anniversary? Or was it more like intimate like I'm at home chilling type? You know? So, you know what. Unfortunately, the life of a producer, you're always working. So I was on a distribution panel at a film festival here in Miami on Saturday, so, you know, we kind of just hung out. We we actually went on a yacht took some of our friends. Yeah, so you got a kind of multitask when you're in my world, and it makes it now. But my husband, he understands the assignment. He's an entrepreneur as well, so sometimes he's on the chopping block. Sometimes I am, and we just gotta make it work. I like the chopping block conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I put a lot of I put a lot of my my lady friends on the chopping block. Yeah, stay on there, Yeah yeah, I like it. So you know, how was the the uh the writers an after strike? Has that affected you? Have you? Have you been affected in any chaldaw? I mean Paul has this because this has been very intense. Oh for sure, for sure. I'll start with this just some background info so that you can see how it's affected me. I started out as a writer before I started producing movies. I wrote six novels myself, started producing other authors, and built this amazing empire for a book publishing company which is called Life Changing Books. In twenty fourteen, a bunch of network execs and producers production companies started coming at me trying to buy the rights to those projects so that they could go and produce the movies. And that's when I said, you know what, I gotta learn this because you know, as a writer, I now need to learn production and become a producer. Most people didn't think I could do it, but did it really successfully, and so started into that world wanting to take the one hundred and sixty two plus books and turn some of those into movies. So obviously with doing that, I had to learn, you know, how to write screenplays, which pretty much put me into this world that we're talking about now. Why writers are striking because they don't really obviously get to earn they don't they don't get to participate. When movies do really really well or TV series do really really well, the participation is lacking, which is why it's strike. So for me, I support you know, WGA writers. I support the actors. There's a lot of them. Again, as we were talking about, before I hire them, they they become my friends. So I'm totally supporting that. The other side is that I am an independent producer, and so being an independent producer, you're not caught up in the world of Hollywood because Hollywood never really gives us a chance anyway, right, we have to make our own way. So, you know, out of respect for the strike, we do not we're not we're not filming right now. But it doesn't mean I can't because obviously I'm independent, so you know, we kind of we kind of make our own rules in the independent world. So it has affected me because I stand with them, hoping that there is some type of fair resolution so that everybody can get what they deserve. Right now, I'm really doing a lot of promoting of my independent films, which I have direct distribution, which sets me apart anyway, right, So I spent a lot of time from and teaching. Now I'm big on teaching the industry how to how to set themselves up for success so that you are not held by anybody's, you know, unfair ways of doing business. In order to to do something different, you gotta learn a little bit more. You gotta be knowledgeable about how to not be in this position where you're kind of just waiting for them to change the rules. Well, listen, I think that's a I think that's a phenomenal explanation of what or some nation I should say of what's happening, because we ask the consumers and those that are watching. You know, we just see entertainment, but we don't see what you know, is going on behind the scenes. We don't see the contract negotiations and how that far Gouy. Sometimes two sides are far apart. We don't see the work that you all are putting in. You know, you know Coco my co host, but you know, I love her and I respect her because I know, you know, personally, she's a single mom. She's doing this, she's running the house of she got multiple businesses. But then you know, I understand that she's also an actress, she's an author, she does all that stuff, and I know that's affecting her, you know what I'm saying. So it is and I see behind the scenes what most people don't get a chance to see. So it's like wow, you know, uh, you know, these are real people who who's working in their purpose in their career, and yet they are facing these challenges and you're talking about something that hasn't happened since the nineteen sixties. I'm thinking, I believe yeah, well, yeah, no, it should have happened a long time ago. I think it just came to a head and now you know, it's starting to happen because I think people are waking up. They're like, wait a minute. If we don't stop now and fight for what's right, when will we right? Absolutely right? Well, listen. I'm gonna take a break real quick. We'll be back. Trust you're gonna hang out with us a little bit longer. Absolutely. I love y'all. Y'all started out with prayer and then you flipt it on. Don't go strip, I mean I like y'all. Well, listen, don't go nowhere. We'll be right back. I'm asking everybody makes you guys right now, go subscribe on iHeart Radio, spial Fire, Apple Podcast where if you listen to your podcasts on your favorite listening device. We'll be right back with more up The Jeff Brown Show with Coco Brown. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Brown Show. And we're back, and we're back sitting here with film direct in TV producer, my home girl. Trust a small would now Trusting you're gonna be stopping by Cleveland. You'll be in my city, uh next week, uh Greater Cleveland Urban Film Festival. You're gonna be adding some great value there, workshop seminars, talking and panel discussions, you know, just talking about the industry and let's talk about that. So what are you going to particularly be focusing on when you come in town. I'm gonna be talking about distribution, which is where the real money resides. Right As a filmmaker, you know, people they love to say, oh, I have this idea, I want to go shoot this movie, and it's like all the excitement is there, you get your talent, you go shoot the movie. But then it's like then what we you know, just the just sit in your inbox? Does it sit on the horror drive? So I really talk about why distributions should be thought about in the very beginning. I'm gonna drop nuggets about how to make sure you can get the right funding so that your distribution pipeline is set up. I'm gonna talk about, you know, just me as a black woman actually having a distribution of pipeline and having access to a lot of networks, streamers, etc. You know. So it's gonna be fun but knowledgeable. Okay, so talk about distribution. Uh And you know, and Coco, I want you to weigh in on this too, because I know you all are in this in this industry. Cuff talk about distribution because distribution is so broad. You know, when you talk about you know, you know people thinking that, you know, I got a distribution deal, but what does that really look like? What is a successful distribution deal, look like, because anybody can get a distribution deal, right, But is it does it make sense? Is it creating wealth? Is it really helping get the product out there? So I mean, can y'all touch on that a little bit? Yeah, I mean, and that's such a good thing to talk about, because you you know, people love to say, oh, I have this kind of deal, I gotta I gotta first look deal, I got a distribution deal. Well, first of all, if you don't you don't have product, then what are you distributing? Right? Doesn't go anywhere right. So for me, for example, before I land at my very first distribution deal, I made the product and I learned the hard way that people will jerk you around. They'll promise you things that will never happen. They'll tell you they gonna get you a certain amount of dollars, and it by the time you get the contract, it's alive. So I was like, oh, I need to I need to learn this. I need to bet on myself. And so I ended up get having a relationship with a BT where they were taking a lot of my projects where there was no middleman, you know, contracts, it's just me in them. Where you already can see the fine print. And I got excited about it, and I said, Okay, I need to I need to duplicate this with some other entities. And so I did one of the distribution deals that I currently had that I'm really proud of because I feel like it's it's helping a lot of filmmakers. Is I have a TV distribution deal, which means that if you and Coco today did a movie together and it's complete, I literally can give you distributions straight to TV where there's no middleman. You know, we can make sure you get your money on time because you know, it's black people. We want our money to come on time. We don't want any any stuff, right, And so it's it's put me in a really good position because we've helped over forty film different filmmakers get distribution without having too big right and honestly, just through that pipeline. We obviously have it with other platforms as well. But I say to be be because that's the one platform right now that seems to be growing a lot because it's owned by Fox and so they obviously have access to marketability and so everybody, oh, you know, and people make jokes about to me all the time, because there are some on there that are pretty bad, but a large majority of those are great. It's just that, of course, we know how society is, they talk about the bad ones. Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I think to Be I think they got close to if I'm not mistaken, I think sixty uh what over sixty uh? I don't want to say sixty billion subscribers. I think it's sixty billion. It's I think I think the last I think the last stat it was like sixty billion subscribers, and they said that it was the fastest growing platform during the pandemic because a people were, you know, at home, and it's been growing ever since. So the fact that you are able to walk someone's project into two be, if it makes sense, you know, that is powerful like that, don't I go ahead? Coco, I don't know if he has something to add to that. I'm sorry, No, I was just saying, she's absolutely right. You know, I've watched to Be. Now, I am guilty. I have definitely posted some clips of movies that were questionable. But I'm a comedian. It's the necessary evil of my business. But but I've also come across some really great films and I've done I mean, my first movie that I executive produced ever is on to be right now, A family. Thanksgiven. Yes, I just promoted that because it was independent, Thank you. But I just, you know, I can promote that. I just came from the network stuff. I'm all but you know, I just feel like, you know, I just love the fact that two Be has given the into pendent filmmaker such a platform. And whether you're a novice, whether you're an amateur, whether you are a skilled well known director, as a person of color, you have a platform now to get your stories out there. There's no more gatekeepers in a sense of you having to go through this person that doesn't understand what you're talking about, doesn't understand your story. You can we can get our stories out there now so much easier. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. And I mean, there are a lot of networks that I have relationships with right now, and they understand. You know, I have a lot of executives that are like, okay, well, like we love what you're doing. You're giving writers opportunities, you know, you're given first time producers opportunities. I mean, we have really helped a lot of people, and so I'm I'm excited about that. I used to be a school teacher, so aside from producing comed Yeah, you know how it is, Coco. My love for teaching and opens at the center of everything. So yes, it's fine. I'm proud that I can make a movie, but I'm even more excited about the fact of helping somebody else, you know, not make the same mistakes that I had to make when I started. Wow when your class is because I need to take your class because my first TP gig, I lost my edges and I don't want that to happen again. I remember a lesson Coco. I remember saying, Lord, now you're telling me to do this. Now, I know you ain't gonna let me fail out here because this was it was crazy. It was just a world that I didn't understand. You know, the Hollywood industry is not for the faint at heart, period. And you know, it's kind of interesting y'all talking about this because Coco, you know this, and I've and I've shared it, you know, on my various platforms. So I shot a pilot for a TV talk show in December, and and so thank you on that. And I'm working with Howard Clay Films, who's also a black independent film company, and I definitely want to connect you and him as well. I'm learning the process of waiting. I'm learning about, you know, just the different aggregators and all these different people that are involved and how they want this and how they want that. And and I'm excited because I'm learning that when these people call, they have something lined up or they believe in your product. So we've gotten some calls here recently. And and and I'll share what you all you know on break you know what that looks like. I can't really come out and talk about it now on air, but I'm understand. I'm learning this process. So, like I said, I'm a rookie. I'm like a newborn in it. You know. I just know talk radio podcast and our host Vince. I'm a public speaker, but this TV, this is a whole different type of animals. Listen, I take my hat and my glasses off to you ladies and all the people that are that are in that industry. This is not you know, it's not for the fading heart. So because it's a it's a fifty fifty chance that the product that you put your heart into may not be for network. It may not be for it to be they may not pick it up. So and you just you guys, gotta roll with it. But you go back to the drawing board and get something together that makes sense. So I'm learning that right now that you have to be pacing and and work and work and continue to work and continue to do things that you gotta do. So you know, I'm loving this whole conversation. Listen, we're gonna take another break. We'll be right back for my girl. Trust us, she's dropping some ajor gems. She trying to put you'all own game. So y'all better get y'all movies together and so y'all can get him over the twov with my girl. So listen, we'll be right back with more of the Jeff Brown Show. This is the Jeff's Brown Show. Back back, Listen, we go get into some of our topics, but I also want to make sure that we get opportunity to promote my friend tress us new movie coming out, talking about First Lady, the First Lady, the First Lady of BMF. Out of here. I gotta go to the bank. I gotta go to the good Wheel. I got a gang of stuff, some dream move this stuf your way. How are you doing? Oh cool? You cool? What's up? We're back on my bad? Yeah we are. All we heard was good will. I'm sorry, honey. When you look, We'll do a whole episode on how you people need to understand that your parents are gonna get gonna die one day and you better be prepared to handle their estate. That's all I'm saying. We need to do a whole show on that. Okay, well, now we'll do it. Look, get it done. Uh So, like I said, let's talk about the first lady at BMF. Uh to Nissa Welch the story. You know that I believe La La plays that role, right am I am? I present? Yeah, La plays that one. Talk about that. Yeah, so you know, I'm really grateful that I got the call to uh produce Tanisa Welch's story. Tanissa Welch is well well known in the Detroit arena. She you know, everybody knows about Meach and Terry Flannery. You know, the leaders of BMF who you know were sentenced, you know, for so many years for running that organization. BMF and so Tanisa. If anybody doesn't know anything about Sanisa, I would definitely say go and at least watch on v ET plus the episode that she has on American Trap Queens. That's how I first watched it and found out about her, and I realized that she was the female who really taught them about the drug game. And so a lot of people are out there, you know, saying, oh, you know, she was just this female you know, doing no no no. Her man Terry, who was Meeta's brother, says it himself on this episode on American Trap Queens that she did teach him everything that he knew, and then of course their relationship started growing when he wanted his woman to get out of the business and so that he could you know, take over pretty much. So you know, you don't hear from me, go watch it for yourself. You know, at the Cleveland Film Festival, we are going to do a first look screening there, so it'll be the first time anybody sees the real story of Tanisa Welch, not anything that it's fictionalized. You know. First of all, just to be clear, I love watching being Met on Stars, but I also I come from the world of writing, and I know that it has to be fictionalized, and so I think for Tanisa sometimes when she watches it, you know, she gets in her feelings because you know, it changes the narrative and it's not necessarily true as it comes as it relates to her. La La plays Tanisa on the show, does a phenomenal job. Again, I like it. It's just that our version is Tanisa's true story. It is a biopic. Yeah, yeah, I always wonder what how you know those that are alive, like when you talk about documentaries or biopics, how do they interpret those those movies of someone portraying them if if the truth or the story is not accurate or it's not aligned with I always wonder, how how does that, you know, go well with them or go you know, go over with them. And you're saying that, no to your knowledge that even though it's a great show, it really doesn't tell the real story of Tania. Yeah, I can only speak on Tenisa because I don't know, you know, Meetch and Terry's true story. What I do know is and in TV you have to embellish, you have to change the narrative a little bit. So most times everything is not one true. That's just how it goes. I don't care whose project it is. And I think that for Tenisa, she's just excited because she gets her chance to tell her story period. And you know, there will be some people who watch it and they'll say, oh, well, I didn't think that that was true because I watched BMF on Stars and you know that everybody's gonna have something to say. But the reality is it's Tenisa's story. She knows what she knows, what happened in her life, and so that's the story that we're gonna tell. And it airs on b ET Plus in October and again you know Cleveland Film Festival. Yeah, I'm gonna be the first to get to see it. I'm definitely gonna beat the Film Festival making Uh. I'll be making some appearances there and just coming through and supporting Donna dabb And and and what the work she's doing over there, the work she's doing over there and and just you know, continuing that movement. So I'll be there, so hopefully i'll see you in person, connect with you there. Yeah, it's going down. Well, listen, I want to kind of uh lighten up lighting the lighting up the load here. I want to get into some hot topics. So I to Cocoa. You there, Coco still, she's still at the state. So I'm gonna talk to you. Then you'll you'll, you'll be talk. So Kanye West and his wife have been banned uh from the water boat ride in Italy Venice for what they call is uh I've seen nature. I guess she was performing a oral sexual pleasure to Kanye and it didn't go over well. It went viral. And the thing is, I've been watching this evolvement of Kanye. I don't know what God is doing in his life. That ain't my business. But I don't think I have a problem with him being banned for that if that's your wife, right right right. But I but I understand that, you know, I don't know for me, I get it. You know, he's in this space just to different to VV. You know, this guy that wants to, you know, say hey, this is my life. I'm hold I'm not holding back who I am. I get it. I mean, I mean, what do you think about that as a married you know you're married. I mean that is I mean, do you think that's a line that you or your husband would cross. I mean, I mean, I'm just saying it's kind of interesting. Yeah, I think one thing, we're talking about Kanye, right, and so to me, it's not even a big deal because it's Kanye. I mean, he does all kinds of things, right, So how is this any different? You know? So when it comes to Kanye, there's anything that he does, okay, whether it's with his wife, with his rants, I mean, his preaching, his shows, everything. Now, if this was anybody else, be first of all, if it was anybody else, I don't even think it would have gone viral. I don't even think they would have been banned. I think they're banned because it's Kanye. You know what. I agree with you on that because I was thinking the same thing, because you're not gonna tell me that Kanye and his wife is the only people that have done that. No, no, no, no, no, no out there. So I don't. I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't think that. Uh. But you know, I'm always looking for the next big story with Kanye and the next controversial moment, uh with Kanye. Yeah, yeah, Koko, we was weighing in on that Kanye piece. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was listening. I was listening. You know. It stripped me out because for country that's so free, there's topless beaches and nude beaches everywhere. I'm just, how are you going to ban him for him and his wife having an intimate moment and what they thought was privacy in the middle of the ocean. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy. We're first of all, the real MVP is who got the shot, you know, proper Rocksey be everywhere. That's why I'm so grateful. I tell people all the time, I am famous enough. I do not want all that extra fame that comes with that. When you get to a certain level, I can still go to. I don't need them problems. And you know, Papa Rosy was probably out there doing the backstroke catching and that's real talk. That's real talking. Like I just feel like, you know, you know, like you know, like Trust said, that's still the same way. I'm like, how are you gonna beardness? Man? You know for something that people do, whether they whether they are in that country, in our country, or everywhere. I mean, that's what people do. I'm may it's what they do. I mean, I don't get it. Hey he didn't. Hey he paid for the ride, so he should have got he should have got reward. I mean that's what I'm thinking. I don't have no problem with that. And then on another note, you know, as we get ready in the show, Beyonce just celebrated forty second birthday and as she was serenaded by the legendary and the iconic Diana Ross. So I think that's dope. The body of work that Beyonce has been able to do since nineteen ninety seven, I think is you know what, it should be rewarded. It should be acknowledged. She has really been through some through a journey and I love what she's doing, you know, And so no big shout out to to her and all the work she's doing. Birthday and a happy happy birthday to me, to her, to her, and so you know, I mean, you know, that's pretty much what I got today for hot topics. Uh, now you know, Coco, they were saying that Steve Harvey wife it cheated on them, but they came out they said I was They said that was a that was just a terrible line. Rumor. Yeah, did you I didn't know if we were gonna talk about the young lady who apparently denied the guy's advances and he hit her with a brick. I saw that that was terrible. That was those guys, that nobody would stand up for her. Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. When I looked at her face, I said, that ain't the same woman. Yeah. Yeah. And then they tried to show some video where she was doing a skit with different dudes on a different block, saying there was a skit, No, that was a different day. Yeah, that's just to me. Uh, you know, I just felt like any man that puts his hand on a woman, you know, he's just a punk ass mother such or such a you know, that's just how I feel about it. My mom didn't raise me to be a woman. Woman either a woman beat her. She said, you put your hand on a man, you don't ever put your hand on a woman. And I think this, this this thing about being a gangster or you are all. I think that to me is just like sucker type mentality, like why would you put your hand on someone that's weaker than you? You know, and you know, a God created man and female, and you know, the Bible says that she is the weaker vessel. Not saying that she's weak mighted. You know, physically, she can't do what a man does, and a man can't overpower a woman. So my thing for me is, I just I don't. I don't celebrate it. I think it's awful that she went through that, and I just think that you know, us, as being in our community, we have to step up and protect our women batter you got mothers and sisters, grandmothers, unts, cousin friends, you know, not on my watch anyway. I don't. I ain't let none of my female friends. I ain't let no joker put their hand on none of my female friends. Just I got bill. I got bail money, so just bail me out. That's what I'm talking about. I got bail money, so I'm good, I'm straight. I hustle, I hustle hard, so you know, I just be damned. It's someone that I love my family and friends, I let another man just hurt them like that. I just don't get that, you know, I don't. I don't know, but you know, go ahead, I'm weighing on that. Yeah, it's I just it's it's honestly, I can't say it on the So I'm sorry for the doorbell, honey, but but it's it's the it's it's the how do I say it without saying it? I am so tired of these sassy men. It's like what And they claimed they're outfit. No where are the masculine men, the men who are gentlemen in their spirits, who were raised right to understand that you may not want to get involved, but the man in you, it's not gonna let a woman be abused in your presence. They just don't make these men anymore. And and and I'm not gonna lie, I'm gonna blame they're Kevin Samuels. I'm gonna blame all these TikTok and Instagram gurules that telling men how to treat women and beat with women and dogging women because y'all can't make up your own mind. We have such a society of followers now that these men can now think for themselves, feel like this is some guru to tell them how to be a man, because your mammy and your daddy didn't do it. And I'm just like, it's just it's we have lost this a fundamental sense of responsibility and masculinity. True masculinity is going down the dream. These men are safety, honey. I mean, like seriously, it's like and that's why, you know, I tell people I'm so adamant with my son. You're a man, you'se a man. I might be a woman, but I know what I'm not. But I can tell you what not to do. I can tell you don't be out here being sassy. Yes you may cry if you feel the need to, but understand them pears need to have a purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's real. I'm I don't know you you you want to ask something to that trust. I mean, I just I'll just add this. I mean, even for the man who was out there watching, if if you were afraid, if you didn't know what to do, there were too many of y'all. You could have just got together. There was too many Like this wasn't even there was one man who needed to face off against one other man, and then there were a lot of them. So it just it was a sad thing for me to see. I prayed for the sister, and we gotta just continue to pray for for our community. And somebody's got to step in to teach. You need the ogs to step up. Yeah, come from a community, then are lost. We need come from a community. The dudes with names like Walter Leon. We need y'all to step up. What was the name, Walter Leon? Okay, Marvin Okay, a ratio. I need you brothers to step up and know you know what, Coco, we need Big Red to throw them off a balcony. If you don't res if you don't respect our women, that's what I'm gonna do to you, big redhead, that joy, big redhead that affected his bottom. I come from. I come from. I come from a culture where hey, if my friend fighting, we all fight. Listen, Hey, listen, you're gonna get your ass kicked today. You know what did by herself because you know how me and my own girls roll. Honey, It's been some problems been me and my girls out there and seeing that we always we always gonna have to go to the hospital. It's like, all right, listen, it's gone. I'll tell you what them brothers needed out there. They let that woman get get hit with that brick like that. They needed a white chair, and I'm gonna lay that alone. What they needed. That white chair, that's all they needed. You know what I'm saying, so trust and you know we've come to the part of the show. You know, you know that I hate to see you go, but you know, all good things must come to an end. Now again, how can people follow you? How can people stay connected to you? And we appreciate you coming on? I appreciate it. So two ways. One follow me personally on all platforms as CEO Azzarell. That's a Z A R E L. So it's Ceo Azarell. And so what I typically do on my personal platform is I do a lot of teaching. I give a lot of knowledge about the industry, and so you'll enjoy following me. I do a lot of lives to help people. You get information on my Megamond page, my movie page. It is Megamond Underscore Media. That's where we post all the different movies. I have produced twenty four movies to date. So if you click the link in hi, thank you. So do you take your next class? Yes, Coco, So I'm doing something in October. So just make sure Coco go to my page and DM me and then you and I can kind of side our talk about when the next one is. I will go get my traff of people, right now. Yeah, And what I love is that when people take my class, they're not only taking it for knowledge, Like these people are really executing one of my skids. Just released a movie again on TV. It stars It stars Delicious, y'all, and you know how Delicious always people love to talk trash about Delicious too, you know, they talk trash to talk trash about. But this movie is doing so well and it made me smile because it's a first time writer, the Delicious is first leading role. It's it's called a taste of betrayal. But that's just a testament to how the classes really work. That we're not you. We teach, but we push you towards execut Uh yes, yes, yes, that's dope. Uh oh listen, man, you have been phenomeno. And as always in this show, end the show with one question, what did you learn so trusted? What did you learn today on the Jeff Brown Show with Coco Brown hanging out with these with these two funny folks. First of all, Jeff, I learned a lot about your character because we started off this session with prayer, and that says a lot. Yeah, you know, in my line of work, I mean a lot of crazy people but I'm always attracted and aligned with the people who know how to pray before they do anything. And that's what I learned about you today. Oh wow, thank you. I appreciate that. Oh God is good. God is so good. A Coco, right, she needs to definitely teach teachers do a session about this estate planning because in the African American community in general, people have no idea what happens, and Coco is experiencing it, and so it would be a great exience. Now and I gotta and I gotta shout you out to Cocoa, because even you're doing the show, even going through the estates, Celle right now, they don't even understand that you're acting, still in the middle of it, doing your and you're doing the show, so you are like doing two things that want so big. Shout out to you. So, Cocoa, what did you learn today? I learned today that, oh, there are so many incredible sisters out here behind the scenes making boss moves, and I just want to be one of them. That's all. That's dope. And you know what I learned today. I learned today that is okay to get banned from Italy and Venus and everything else like that. But also let me tell you what I also learned today. I learned today that Trust Smallwood is a shaker and a mover for real. So I am excited of just having you on and just learning about you, and I'm playing that we know we stay connected. I'm make sure you know after the show, you know, get you my contact information so we can stay connecting and you know I can just you know, just want to keep that that that brother and sister love going and coke or you know, I love you and the big shout out, big shout out to Deacon, do dirty, Reverend, do wrong, real enjoy your revival or rather yeah, yeah, don't let me well what dos that he? That was the benediction for the day. With that saying makes you guys go subscribe on iHeart Radio, Apple Podcasts and no Spotify. Listen till next time. Listen. God loves you, I love you, and it's nothing in the world to be good about it beats peace job. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network, where real talk lifts. Visit us online at FCB Podcasts dot com.